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RANKED: The Most Corrupt States
Business Insider ^ | 09/04/2013 | Rob Wile

Posted on 09/04/2013 6:47:37 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

This weekend, the New York Times' Nick Madigan called Florida a "hothouse of corruption," reporting the Sunshine State saw the greatest number of people convicted of public corruption between 2000 and 2010.

That's technically true. But it's not the full story.

To get a true sense of the most corrupt state, we need to know how many convictions there have been on a population basis.

So we went back to Justice Department data cited by Madigan, to see which states saw the greatest number of convictions per 100,000 (Madigan actually appears to cite slightly outdated data; the latest covers the period between 2002 and 2011).

No. 1?

Louisiana, with nearly 9 convictions per 100,000 people.

The Dakotas are runners up. 

The states with the fewest conviction rates were South Carolina, Oregon, Washington, New Hampshire, Minnesota and Utah, each with no more than 1.3 convictions per 100,000. 

And Florida? Only the 20th-most corrupt, with 3.28 convictions per 100,000 — basically, just a bit above average.

Here's the full chart:

most corrupt states

(Excerpt) Read more at businessinsider.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; US: Louisiana; US: South Carolina
KEYWORDS: corrupt; corruption; crimerate; cultureofcorruption; states; top10
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1 posted on 09/04/2013 6:47:37 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

Stupid metric. I could make a case that more convictions implies less corruption, because crooks are actually punished.


2 posted on 09/04/2013 6:49:25 AM PDT by Thane_Banquo ( Walker 2016)
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To: SeekAndFind

If the corruption extends to the DAs and the police, the arrest numbers are worthless.


3 posted on 09/04/2013 6:49:47 AM PDT by muir_redwoods (Don't fire until you see the blue of their helmets)
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To: SeekAndFind

This data assumes that convictions is an accurate basis for measurement. Truly corrupt states will not convict their own.


4 posted on 09/04/2013 6:49:58 AM PDT by ShadowAce (Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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To: SeekAndFind
With a population of 650,000, it doesn't take many bad apples according to this to label my state of North Dakota "corrupt".

With a legislature that meets every-other-year and relatively light regulation in the state, I guess that's corruption I can live with.

5 posted on 09/04/2013 6:51:42 AM PDT by GOP_Party_Animal
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To: SeekAndFind

If you look what happened in the cases of Terry McCauliffe, Charles Rangel and Jon Corzine, just to name a few, you might want to reconsider using a conviction as the key for saying which are the most corrupt. Whether they bribed or used political connections to get off the hook, only Rangel was convicted, if you will, and that involved nothing more than a slap on the wrist. He is still out there trying to be a civil rights “moral compass”, for goodness sakes! Like Al Sharpton, the media still go to him to get quotes on the struggle against the “Man”, when for all practical matters, Rangel the landlord is the Man.

In fact, you could argue that the more convictions obtained, the greater the anti-corruption forces are in that state.


6 posted on 09/04/2013 6:52:58 AM PDT by Alas Babylon!
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To: SeekAndFind

I guess this depends on who you leave out. If Illegal aliens were convicted and counted the states boarding the south would be highest. Colorado would be much higher if political violations were counted.


7 posted on 09/04/2013 6:53:22 AM PDT by mountainlion (Live well for those that did not make it back.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Absurd. If pinkie is not at the top, there’s no use to this.


8 posted on 09/04/2013 6:54:35 AM PDT by Mamzelle
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To: Mamzelle

Ack. Illinois, not pinkie!


9 posted on 09/04/2013 6:55:37 AM PDT by Mamzelle
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To: SeekAndFind

My first thought was Hawaii, but I’ll go with Louisiana. Any state with a considerable population on “Indian” land should be next.


10 posted on 09/04/2013 6:56:16 AM PDT by HomeAtLast
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RE: Absurd. If pinkie is not at the top, there’s no use to this.

Who or what on earth is pinkie?


11 posted on 09/04/2013 6:57:21 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind
...convictions...

Bad metric. In a truly corrupt state, there aren't any convictions for corruption. It's part of the normal way of doing business.

12 posted on 09/04/2013 6:58:41 AM PDT by from occupied ga (Your government is your most dangerous enemy)
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Having written Harry Reid’s only biography, I guarantee Nevada has it’s share of corruption hidden in plain view.

http://www.futurnamics.com/reid.php


13 posted on 09/04/2013 6:59:20 AM PDT by DaxtonBrown (http://www.futurnamics.com/reid.php)
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To: SeekAndFind
Who or what on earth is pinkie?

A friend of Thumbkin. All you have to do is ask where he is and he'll tell you.

14 posted on 09/04/2013 7:01:23 AM PDT by Right Brother
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To: SeekAndFind

I would think that the states with the highest conviction rates were the least corrupt..............


15 posted on 09/04/2013 7:01:48 AM PDT by Red Badger (It is dangerous to be right in matters where established men are wrong. .....Voltaire)
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To: Thane_Banquo
I could make a case that more convictions implies less corruption, because crooks are actually punished.

Then Illinois should be the cleanest state in the country, as we have our last two governors (G. Ryan and Blago) serving time in the pokey, one from each party.
16 posted on 09/04/2013 7:02:06 AM PDT by Dr. Sivana (There's no salvation in politics.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Arrests just mean the crooks pay a consequence for their actions and that there are people in government who work to prevent corruption.

A better measure of corruption would be total State government spending divided by total private sector jobs or total private sector payroll.

Unnecessary government spending ends up in the hands of bad people. Follow the money.


17 posted on 09/04/2013 7:02:08 AM PDT by detective
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To: SeekAndFind

I also disagree with the “per-capita” notion. New Hampshire has an enormous legislature and a tiny population. California has an enormous population, and a fairly small legislature. One bad legislator in New Hampshire, by this metric, would make NH look as bad as if half of California’s legislature went to prison.


18 posted on 09/04/2013 7:02:37 AM PDT by dangus (Poverty cannot be eradicated as long as the poor remain dependent on the state - Pope Francis)
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To: SeekAndFind

I guess the state is less corrupt if no one knows about the corruption. Which is usually the case.


19 posted on 09/04/2013 7:03:26 AM PDT by headstamp 2 (What would Scooby do?)
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To: Thane_Banquo
Precisely. In New York, for instance, they don't convict them, they promote them.

I had strong ties to North Dakota, 1964-1988. The tolerance for corruption was very low. The courts were not congested. People actually like to get jury duty. I was called twice, excused twice and paid $50 each time.

Here in Pennsylvania, jury duty will barely cover your parking fee and a granola bar for lunch.

20 posted on 09/04/2013 7:04:48 AM PDT by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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