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Kerry: Bush officials 'so discredited' they're not relevant to Syria debate
The Hill ^

Posted on 09/05/2013 6:06:04 PM PDT by Sub-Driver

Kerry: Bush officials 'so discredited' they're not relevant to Syria debate By Julian Pecquet - 09/05/13 08:41 PM ET

Bush administration officials are “so discredited” by the war in Iraq that their criticism of President Obama on Syria is irrelevant, Secretary of State John Kerry said Thursday.

Kerry's comments on MSNBC's “All in with Chris Hayes” come after former Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld on Wednesday called Obama the nation's “so-called commander in chief.” And Bush's hawkish ambassador to the United Nations, John Bolton, said Tuesday he'd vote “no” to avoid “taking sides.”

“It just doesn't make a difference to me, because they're so discredited by their own judgments that it's hard to see that they have a judgment today that is relevant to this,” Kerry said. “I'll listen to people whose judgment I clearly trust and respect.”

Kerry went on to vow that the limited action considered for Syria won't turn into another Iraq or Afghanistan, the two wars that began under Bush.

“We are not presenting to the American people the same shoddy intelligence that was presented to the American people back in Iraq,” he said. “We will not put American boots on the ground. We will not take over a civil war in which the United States clearly has no interest being directly involved.”

Bush has decided to remain silent.

“The president's got a tough choice to make,” he told Fox News last week, "and if he decides to use our military, he'll have the greatest military ever backing him up.”

Kerry's appearance on the liberal show aimed to shore up support for the authorization to use force in Syria, which faces an uphill battle in the House.

While Republicans make up 80 of the 110 House members leaning towards voting “no,” according to The Hill's latest whip count, 30 are Democrats. Rep. Alan Grayson (D-Fla.) is even rallying support against the measure: His online petition had garnered more than 50,000 signatures as of Thursday evening.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Israel; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; Russia; United Kingdom; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: brzenzski; corruptstate; israel; johnkerry; liar; nwo; russia; saudipuppets; syria; unitedkingdom; waronterror
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This is beyond comedy............
1 posted on 09/05/2013 6:06:04 PM PDT by Sub-Driver
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To: Sub-Driver

Buffoons and clowns are in charge now.


2 posted on 09/05/2013 6:07:55 PM PDT by skeeter
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To: Sub-Driver

This from someone who actively supported America’s Communist enemies during the 1970s.

Disgusting.


3 posted on 09/05/2013 6:08:04 PM PDT by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both.)
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To: Sub-Driver

4 posted on 09/05/2013 6:08:12 PM PDT by Diogenesis
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To: Sub-Driver

Bite me you tax evading catspoop boy


5 posted on 09/05/2013 6:08:24 PM PDT by al baby (Hi Mom)
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To: Sub-Driver

And Kerry is not discredited? What an upside down world we live in.


6 posted on 09/05/2013 6:09:07 PM PDT by JudyinCanada
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To: Sub-Driver
Wonder if Obama will give Kerry back the medals he threw on the Whitehorse lawn?
7 posted on 09/05/2013 6:09:16 PM PDT by SandRat (Duty - Honor - Country! What else needs said?)
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To: Sub-Driver

So sayeth the Candidate who campaigned on a ‘global test’ before taking military action.


8 posted on 09/05/2013 6:10:09 PM PDT by griswold3
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To: Sub-Driver

Did he find a group of our military and call them baby killers while he was at it? We live in bizzaro world.


9 posted on 09/05/2013 6:10:14 PM PDT by A CA Guy ( God Bless America, God Bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: Sub-Driver

ouch...Kerry is nothing more than a pin prick


10 posted on 09/05/2013 6:10:44 PM PDT by novemberslady (Texas For President)
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To: Sub-Driver

“[W]e urge you,after consulting with Congress, and consistent with the U.S.Constitution and laws, to take necessary actions (including, if appropriate, air and missile strikes on suspect Iraqi sites) to respond effectively to the threat posed by Iraq’s refusal to end its weapons of mass destruction programs.” Letter to President Clinton, signed by:—Carl Levin, Tom Daschle, John Kerry,

“I will be voting to give the President of the United States the authority to use force — if necessary — to disarm Saddam Hussein because I believe that a deadly arsenal of weapons of mass destruction in his hands is a real and grave threat to our security.” —Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Oct. 9, 2002

“Without question, we need to disarm Saddam Hussein. He is a brutal, murderous dictator, leading an oppressive regime ... He presents a particularly grievous threat because he is so consistently prone to miscalculation.. And now he is miscalculating America’s response to his continueddeceit and his consistent grasp for weapons of mass destruction ... So the threat of Saddam Hussein with weapons of mass destruction is real...”
—Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Jan. 23. 2003


11 posted on 09/05/2013 6:11:32 PM PDT by SusaninOhio
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To: Sub-Driver
“I'll listen to people whose judgment I clearly trust and respect.”

Well, at least now we have the answer to why Kerry spends so much time in front of a mirror ...
13 posted on 09/05/2013 6:14:42 PM PDT by tanknetter
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To: Sub-Driver

Kerry you were Swift boated, remember? You are the one discredited you oaf


14 posted on 09/05/2013 6:15:31 PM PDT by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: Sub-Driver

This is the guy who selected John Edwards to be his running mate.


15 posted on 09/05/2013 6:15:36 PM PDT by Perdogg (Cruz-Paul 2016)
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To: Sub-Driver

And yet the obama administration desperately wants republicans to support his Syrian misadventure...

But insults them at the same time.


16 posted on 09/05/2013 6:15:41 PM PDT by 2banana (My common ground with terrorists - they want to die for islam and we want to kill them)
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To: Sub-Driver
It's official, the Obama Rat strategy is to get Putin and the entire Russian Federation to laugh themselves to death.
17 posted on 09/05/2013 6:16:40 PM PDT by Navy Patriot (Join the Democrats, it's not Fascism when WE do it, and the Constitution and law mean what WE say.)
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To: Sub-Driver

—This is beyond comedy............

You can’t make this stuff up...
This administration is so egocentric and narcissistic
that it unconsciously self mocks


18 posted on 09/05/2013 6:16:55 PM PDT by HangnJudge
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To: Sub-Driver

John and Barry are sooooooooooooo credible


19 posted on 09/05/2013 6:17:06 PM PDT by Conspiracy Guy (To stay calm during these tumultuous times, I take Damitol. Ask your Doctor if it's right for you.)
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To: Sub-Driver

yes. so much better to let our Viet Nam war hero “diplomat” lead us into war on behalf of O’s AlQuaida friends


20 posted on 09/05/2013 6:17:23 PM PDT by faithhopecharity (E)
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To: Sub-Driver

SHUT UP you traitor!
Good lord, how did this mane not get shot decades ago?


21 posted on 09/05/2013 6:17:25 PM PDT by svcw (Stand or die)
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To: Sub-Driver
Kerry said. “I'll listen to people whose judgment I clearly trust and respect.”

Uh, look, Johnny, taking plastic surgery advice from Michael Jackson probably wasn't your finest moment. Just sayin'.

22 posted on 09/05/2013 6:18:52 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: Navy Patriot

that might actually work... Lord knows nothing else he proposes does


23 posted on 09/05/2013 6:19:07 PM PDT by faithhopecharity (E)
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To: tanknetter
“I'll listen to people whose judgment I clearly trust and respect.”


"The former leader of the Islamic Society of Boston is Abdurahman Alamoudi,
who recently pled guilty to smuggling hundreds of thousands of dollars
from Libya’s Jihad fund, to plot the assassination of Saudi Prince Abdullah.
Another influential figure in the Islamic Society of Boston is the infamous
Sheikh Yusef al-Qaradawi, virulently anti-American spiritual leader
of the Muslim Brotherhood. Al-Qaradawi’s name was listed on the
Arabic language brochure for the ISB’s new mosque—but omitted from the English version.
Yet, the Boston Redevelopment Authority sold them the land
for their proposed new mosque—a vast complex estimated
to cost $22 million, much of which is coming from Saudi Arabia—
at far less than fair market value, and is now being sued
by concerned citizens of the area."


John Kerry was then the key beneficiary of Berger's Burglaries
Rescued: Data the Kerry/Edwards Campaign Tried to DELETE from its site! (grandpa dave found cache)

Kerry failed to act on pre-9/11 tip


24 posted on 09/05/2013 6:19:12 PM PDT by Diogenesis
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To: Sub-Driver

FUJK


25 posted on 09/05/2013 6:24:50 PM PDT by NonValueAdded (Henceforth, the Office of the President shall be known as IMPOTUS)
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stay out of the balloon house Kerry...


26 posted on 09/05/2013 6:26:26 PM PDT by novemberslady (Texas For President)
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To: Sub-Driver

27 posted on 09/05/2013 6:26:37 PM PDT by Gamecock (Many Atheists take the stand: "There is no God AND I hate Him.")
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To: Sub-Driver

John F’n Kerry is a traitor to the United States who should have been tried, convicted, sentenced, and hanged decades ago. So whatever he says now should have no more value than the dried poop left behind by the maggots who fed on his rotting corpse.


28 posted on 09/05/2013 6:29:18 PM PDT by Carl Vehse
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To: Sub-Driver

96 Senators voted to accept this guy, Many of the people who he now calls discredited.

I hope they all still love this traitorous a-hole they put in high office.


29 posted on 09/05/2013 6:29:31 PM PDT by Venturer ( cowardice posturing as tolerance =political correctness)
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To: Sub-Driver

“beyond comedy”...and utterly SURRREAL...

in fact it may actually qualify as being beyond SURREAL given Kerry’s Huge foundation of undeniable GRAVITAS.

Mr. Discredited Himself has opened himself up for yet another MAD Magazine Cover with this batch o’ hooey!


30 posted on 09/05/2013 6:32:30 PM PDT by MeshugeMikey (Block Captain..Tyranny Response Team / al-Kilab Division)
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To: Diogenesis

the unknown factor in the bottom photograph..most curious.


31 posted on 09/05/2013 6:32:30 PM PDT by MeshugeMikey (Block Captain..Tyranny Response Team / al-Kilab Division)
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To: Sub-Driver
“We will not put American boots on the ground. We will not take over a civil war in which the United States clearly has no interest being directly involved.”

The key word in the first sentence is "American" boots. We have boots on the ground, they just happen to be Al Qaeda and Muslim Brotherhood.

The key word in the second sentence is "directly". We're working with the Turkish Army to run this op. So, no, not directly. Though, if you're an ambassador in Benghazi, it probably felt pretty "direct".

32 posted on 09/05/2013 6:34:03 PM PDT by marron
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To: Sub-Driver
Thanks to
WILLIAMBANZAI7


33 posted on 09/05/2013 6:34:19 PM PDT by HangnJudge
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To: novemberslady

No ...he’s just a prick, period.


34 posted on 09/05/2013 6:36:57 PM PDT by beethovenfan (If Islam is the solution, the "problem" must be freedom.)
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To: Sub-Driver
Maybe he could use a new Sec Def
35 posted on 09/05/2013 6:38:58 PM PDT by outofsalt ("If History teaches us anything it's that history rarely teaches us anything")
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; cardinal4; ColdOne; ...

Thanks Sub-Driver.
"We are not presenting to the American people the same shoddy intelligence that was presented to the American people back in Iraq," he said. "We will not put American boots on the ground. We will not take over a civil war in which the United States clearly has no interest being directly involved."
What's his FR nick?


36 posted on 09/05/2013 6:39:05 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (It's no coincidence that some "conservatives" echo the hard left.)
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Uh, look, Johnny, taking plastic surgery advice from Michael Jackson probably wasn't your finest moment. Just sayin'.

lol....I thought it was Nancy Pelosi who had given him some advice on Botox.
37 posted on 09/05/2013 6:47:19 PM PDT by Girlene (Hey, NSA!)
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To: Sub-Driver

This is ridiculous. I want to see Kerry’s DD-214 right now.


38 posted on 09/05/2013 6:48:09 PM PDT by onedoug
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To: Mr. K

Leftists sure are nasty little cow chips, aren’t they.


39 posted on 09/05/2013 6:50:26 PM PDT by skeeter
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To: Sub-Driver

Way to go Kerry, toss out a gratuitous insult. Any Republican who votes for this crap is a stupid stooge of the Democrats. How many kicks in the ass can you take?


40 posted on 09/05/2013 6:57:43 PM PDT by popdonnelly (The right to self-defense is older than the Constitution.)
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To: Sub-Driver

Half of the loudest voices FOR attacking Syria ARE former Bushies!!

Obama really wants somebody else to blame for NOT acting.


41 posted on 09/05/2013 7:09:23 PM PDT by G Larry (Let his days be few; and let another take his office. Psalms 109:8)
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To: Gamecock

That pic is photoshopped. There are plenty of stupid pics of Kerry without posting this one.


42 posted on 09/05/2013 7:11:14 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist (Governor Sarah Heath Palin for President of the United States in 2016)
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To: JudyinCanada
Kerry is just as pathetic as his boss. He looks like a fool and when he opens his big mouth he proves it. Kerry claimed the terrorist rebels were becoming more moderate by the day. He was immediately discredited when a video came out showing his rebels executing captured Syrian soldiers who they also tortured. Talk about shoddy evidence.
43 posted on 09/05/2013 7:24:26 PM PDT by peeps36 (I'm Not A Racist, I Hate Douchebags f All Colors)
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To: Sub-Driver
This is beyond comedy............


“We are not presenting to the American people the same shoddy intelligence that was presented to the American people back in Iraq,”

Technically, that is not a lie by Kerry.

The Obama Administration is presenting absolutely no evidence or intelligence what so ever to justify their attack on Syria.

44 posted on 09/05/2013 7:30:44 PM PDT by rdcbn
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““We will not put American boots on the ground.”

Just like there was no red line.


45 posted on 09/05/2013 7:35:23 PM PDT by HereInTheHeartland (Just wanted to say I hope you great NSA folks are enjoying my posts here.)
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To: Sub-Driver

why won’t any Republican ask lurch why they should believe this administration on anything considering how they lied about Libya and covered up Fast & Furious...


46 posted on 09/05/2013 7:38:25 PM PDT by God luvs America (63.5 million pay no income tax and vote for DemoKrats...)
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To: SusaninOhio

None of this matters to the boots (on the ground) licking press.


47 posted on 09/05/2013 7:46:54 PM PDT by VerySadAmerican (".....Barrack, and the horse Mohammed rode in on.")
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To: Sub-Driver

But but Saddam gassed his own people...do the Iraqi victims of Saddam matter less cause a Republican regime intervened???


48 posted on 09/05/2013 8:15:53 PM PDT by RginTN
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To: Sub-Driver

In true Orwellian fashion, any memory of the Democrat’s very substantial support for the war was thrown down the memory hole.


49 posted on 09/05/2013 8:36:10 PM PDT by Red Dog #1
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wait, didn’t he vote for the authorization to use force? Or was it just his predecessor. Does he not trust her?


50 posted on 09/05/2013 8:52:05 PM PDT by newnhdad (Our new motto: USA, it was fun while it lasted.)
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