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House Might Not Vote on Obama’s Syria Resolution
National Review ^ | 9-6-13 | John Fund

Posted on 09/06/2013 8:23:58 AM PDT by quimby

Congressional aides in both parties tell me that the chances of President Obama winning House approval for military action in Syria are so bad they actually doubt the House would ultimately vote on it if failure seemed certain.

Two new whip counts of House members by ABC News and the liberal Firedoglake web site show a majority of House members firmly or leaning against intervention. The Washington Post’s more conservative count stands at 204 “no” votes, only 13 short of the majority needed to kill the president’s request.

(Excerpt) Read more at nationalreview.com ...


TOPICS: Breaking News; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: boehner; congress; obama; obamaswars; syria
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If they don't vote, boner must be gone!
1 posted on 09/06/2013 8:23:58 AM PDT by quimby
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To: quimby

“I just don’t believe that if defeat is certain, the House leadership will want to see a president utterly humiliated on the House floor in a public vote,” one top aide to the Republican leadership told me. Should the full Senate vote to approve an attack on Syria — as still appears somewhat likely — the battle would shift to the House. “An attempt would be made to let the whole thing go away. I don’t think it would be done to give the GOP any extra leverage in debt-ceiling or budget negotiations — Obama isn’t the grateful type — but simply because the weakness it would demonstrate wouldn’t be good for the country,” the aide told me.


2 posted on 09/06/2013 8:26:58 AM PDT by b4its2late (A Liberal is a person who will give away everything he doesn't own.)
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To: quimby
Tell your reps.

3 posted on 09/06/2013 8:27:14 AM PDT by McGruff (Strange times are these in which we live..)
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To: quimby

Lol! Maybe Boehner will just “deem” it passed like they were planning with Obamacare....


4 posted on 09/06/2013 8:28:42 AM PDT by apillar
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To: b4its2late

Maybe I’m missing something.

What exactly is showing weakness by having a congressional vote on an issue?

Isn’t the whole point of Congress that they vote on issues, pass legislation, etc?

Sometimes legislation is voted down. Sometimes resolutions do not pass. It’s all part of the process, isn’t it?

What am I missing?


5 posted on 09/06/2013 8:29:00 AM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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To: quimby

So they’d use procedure and just not bring it up?

Seems like he’d be humiliated anyway.


6 posted on 09/06/2013 8:29:20 AM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: quimby

So, if the Hastert rule is no vote if R yea’s in the minority...

then the Boehner rule is no vote if it embarrasses the pResident


7 posted on 09/06/2013 8:29:41 AM PDT by C210N (When people fear government there is tyranny; when government fears people there is liberty)
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To: Dilbert San Diego

You are spot on, not missing a thing. It’s no doubt a RINO aide that is speaking. Probably one of Boners.


8 posted on 09/06/2013 8:30:16 AM PDT by b4its2late (A Liberal is a person who will give away everything he doesn't own.)
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To: McGruff

BTTT!


9 posted on 09/06/2013 8:30:29 AM PDT by RedMDer (http://www.dontfundobamacare.com/)
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To: quimby

I pay them to vote. Do their duty.


10 posted on 09/06/2013 8:30:51 AM PDT by bgill (This reply was mined before it was posted.)
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To: quimby

They will be forced to vote by a President who desperately needs political cover. Those that vote for war against the wishes of the American people will be hounded mercilessly out of office. The end result will be a fundamental change in the Republican leadership. Boehner and Cantor’s days are numbered.


11 posted on 09/06/2013 8:31:01 AM PDT by allendale
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To: Vendome
The United States of America is a Democracy Dictatorship...
12 posted on 09/06/2013 8:31:03 AM PDT by Errant
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To: quimby

He’s in the bathroom fixing his face.


13 posted on 09/06/2013 8:31:20 AM PDT by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: All armed conservatives.)
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To: quimby

Would all you people in Boner’s district please start burning up his phone lines.


14 posted on 09/06/2013 8:31:59 AM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: quimby

If the House votes “abstain” and the Senate votes “go for it”, then the President wins a “go” vote.

The House must bring this to the floor, but the democrats will side with Boehner on this one in any discharge petition. That way they get to save face as democrats by not voting against their fearless leader, and they get to go to their districts NOT having supported the war in Syria.

It must have a majority on the petition, so only a few republicans + Cantor and Boehner can defect.


15 posted on 09/06/2013 8:32:01 AM PDT by xzins ( Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for victory!)
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To: quimby
“I just don’t believe that if defeat is certain, the House leadership will want to see a president utterly humiliated on the House floor in a public vote,” one top aide to the Republican leadership told me.

Why is the Republican leadership trying to prevent Obama from being humiliated?

16 posted on 09/06/2013 8:33:09 AM PDT by Thane_Banquo ( Walker 2016)
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To: quimby

I’m betting that Obama will be back in DC next week spreading Saudi cash and he’ll get his war.

If this thing gets voted down I don’t see how Bohener and Cantor can stay in leadership positions.


17 posted on 09/06/2013 8:34:01 AM PDT by BarnacleCenturion
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To: Dilbert San Diego
PR. If the House votes it down it will look bad.

The President wants Congress to enable him, not thwart him.

If true, Obama will strike before the House votes.

18 posted on 09/06/2013 8:34:43 AM PDT by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: bgill

The president asked for this congressional debate and vote.

Don’t we deserve to see how our elected representatives have decided this issue, which the president decided to push?


19 posted on 09/06/2013 8:35:31 AM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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To: Dilbert San Diego

Der Fuehrer maintained (somewhat correctly) that he can do all of this without congressional authority, at least for a while. The backlash against action has been so great that he flipped and is pushing the yes-no decision off on congress so that if it fails he can blame congress (republicans) and walk away saying it wasn’t his decision. He’s looking for a sure scapegoat.

Telling him he doesn’t need congressional approval and not voting on it pushes the ownership of his disasterous policy back into his lap.


20 posted on 09/06/2013 8:35:59 AM PDT by RJS1950 (The democrats are the "enemies foreign and domestic" cited in the federal oath)
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To: quimby

They better vote, and they better vote NO!

If they don’t, Odumbass will take that as a reason to continue


21 posted on 09/06/2013 8:36:35 AM PDT by Mr. K (Lies, Damned Lies, Statistics, and then Democrat Talking Points.)
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To: quimby

PERFECT!!!

Prevents Obama from hiding behind GOP Congress, or blaming them for his in-action!!!

Doesn’t set precident of denying him the authority to act.

He said he doesn’t need their authorization!

I’m waiting for him to claim that without the vote, he’s unable to discern the will of the American people....


22 posted on 09/06/2013 8:36:53 AM PDT by G Larry (Let his days be few; and let another take his office. Psalms 109:8)
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To: quimby

Cowards. Vote on it. Make Obama own it.


23 posted on 09/06/2013 8:37:39 AM PDT by Domandred (Fdisk, format, and reinstall the entire .gov system.)
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To: Dilbert San Diego

If you can’t figure out how our elected representatives have decided, by virtue of this in-action, then a billboard wouldn’t help.

Yes, I know, you want your guy on the record...big deal.


24 posted on 09/06/2013 8:38:59 AM PDT by G Larry (Let his days be few; and let another take his office. Psalms 109:8)
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To: bgill
I pay them to vote. Do their duty.

They're betting you'll keep on paying them no matter what.

25 posted on 09/06/2013 8:39:09 AM PDT by HomeAtLast
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To: quimby

and if memory serves me...the Democrats were very concerned about NOT humiliating BUSH during his term ;)


26 posted on 09/06/2013 8:39:10 AM PDT by Blue Turtle
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To: Dilbert San Diego
What am I missing?

It's racist not to give the pres__ent what he wants.

27 posted on 09/06/2013 8:39:17 AM PDT by Fresh Wind (The last remnants of the Old Republic have been swept away.)
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To: quimby

VOTE!!!
You flipping morons, I want to know who is for and who is against.....names, I want names.


28 posted on 09/06/2013 8:39:21 AM PDT by svcw (Stand or die)
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To: Domandred

See post #22


29 posted on 09/06/2013 8:39:27 AM PDT by G Larry (Let his days be few; and let another take his office. Psalms 109:8)
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To: Dilbert San Diego

“What am I missing?”

The elites don’t believe the people should have any say in anything, so they’d prefer that the voice of the people not be heard, and the people speak through their represenatives in the House.

The idea that the people would rebuke the president is abhorrent to them!


30 posted on 09/06/2013 8:41:51 AM PDT by cotton1706
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To: Vendome
Seems like he’d be humiliated anyway.

It's pretty bad. But if it never comes up for a vote the media can ignore it more easily. And they will.

31 posted on 09/06/2013 8:42:52 AM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: b4its2late
“I just don’t believe that if defeat is certain, the House leadership will want to see a president utterly humiliated on the House floor in a public vote,” one top aide to the Republican leadership told me.

The shameless, America-hating rats would be chomping at the bit to humiliate a Republican president.
The House MUST vote, or get rid of the spineless leadership immediately. GOP reps must DEMAND a vote.

32 posted on 09/06/2013 8:42:59 AM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: quimby

Why not vote?


33 posted on 09/06/2013 8:43:27 AM PDT by nikos1121 (“To err is human; to forgive, divine.” Alexander Pope (1688-1744) English poet)
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To: Billthedrill
It's pretty bad. But if it never comes up for a vote the media can ignore it more easily. And they will.

Actually, the Democrat newsrooms would spin the story to paint the Republicans as racists, cowards, and traitors, etc.

34 posted on 09/06/2013 8:44:47 AM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: BarnacleCenturion; quimby; Thane_Banquo
Why is the Republican leadership trying to prevent Obama from being humiliated?

The excuse they are using:

The international damage
that will be caused by leaving 'egg on Barry's face'
will harm the USA.
IOW, we must go to war to
prevent Obama's international embarrassment.

Patriotism is the last refuge of a scoundrel. This is the GOP's chance to own Obama for the rest of his term. Apparently, the leadership prefers to keep the sweet deals going.

35 posted on 09/06/2013 8:45:27 AM PDT by Kenny Bunk (Don't miss the Blockbuster of the Summer! "Obama, The Movie" Introducing Reggie Love as "Monica! ")
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To: b4its2late

I’m up seeing Obozo humiliated.


36 posted on 09/06/2013 8:46:02 AM PDT by meatloaf
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To: Vendome

He’s a humiliation just by his existence.


37 posted on 09/06/2013 8:46:24 AM PDT by Monkey Face (PoliticallyCorrect:A term used for whiney,over-sensitive pansies who need everything sugar coated.)
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To: Dilbert San Diego
It sounds like they are giving obama room to carry out an attack on his own. He can say he had to act when congress couldn't get its act together and vote on something so important. If congress voted no obama would have to defy them to attack Syria. It seems cowardly to me.
38 posted on 09/06/2013 8:47:32 AM PDT by peeps36 (I'm Not A Racist, I Hate Douchebags f All Colors)
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To: b4its2late

He played the vote to put the burden on the House, so pick up the burden and vote. He will NEVER appreciate a face saving move by the GOP so all the other important things coming up are still going to be contentious.


39 posted on 09/06/2013 8:48:51 AM PDT by mortal19440
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To: b4its2late

Well the British Parliament didn’t seem to be too worried about how it would look.

BHO is and has been a daily humiliation to the USA since the day he took office what else would be new?


40 posted on 09/06/2013 8:48:56 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: quimby

WOW!!

They know it will lose so they just won’t vote and Obama can have his little war.

Bonehead needs to resign in shame now.


41 posted on 09/06/2013 8:49:11 AM PDT by GeronL
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To: Vendome
Seems like he’d be humiliated anyway

Well, he might be humiliated anyway, but if he did it after a "no" vote, we'd be in completely unknown territory.

Boehner wants (obviously) to prevent a full-blown regime crisis.

42 posted on 09/06/2013 8:49:38 AM PDT by Jim Noble (When strong, avoid them. Attack their weaknesses. Emerge to their surprise. N)
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To: C210N

The opposition party seems owned by the ruling party


43 posted on 09/06/2013 8:49:58 AM PDT by GeronL
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To: RJS1950

Incorrectly

He is answerable to the Constitution and he has no authority in that case to foost us into a war.

He does not own the military. That’s a dictatorial notion


44 posted on 09/06/2013 8:50:48 AM PDT by stanne
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To: quimby

What a cowardly bunch of good-for-nothings are warming the seats in the House! That is as bad as Obama voting “present.” Any Republican who doesn’t have the testicular fortitude to vote on this matter should be replaced in next year’s primary.


45 posted on 09/06/2013 8:50:49 AM PDT by txrefugee
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To: quimby

Geez, I”ve made two calls to Boehner’s office this week already! WTH!!!!

Take the Vote!


46 posted on 09/06/2013 8:51:30 AM PDT by austinaero
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To: Thane_Banquo
Why is the Republican leadership trying to prevent Obama from being humiliated?

That's not it.

If the House votes "no" and Obama orders military action, he will have to be removed.

Boehner dreads that, more than anything.

47 posted on 09/06/2013 8:51:45 AM PDT by Jim Noble (When strong, avoid them. Attack their weaknesses. Emerge to their surprise. N)
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To: svcw

I emailed Raul Ruiz in Dist 36 Palm Desert, CA and he responded in a wishy washy way, speaking of the horrors of the Assad attack on his own people. In congressional jibberish he intimated (IMHO) support for the pResident.
Any others around here, let him know what you think....
congressman.ruiz@housemail.house.gov


48 posted on 09/06/2013 8:52:41 AM PDT by sanjuanbob
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To: Dilbert San Diego

>> Maybe I’m missing something. What exactly is showing weakness by having a congressional vote on an issue?

I didn’t get that either.

Note that it’s an aide babbling for the camera... throwing out statesman-sounding gobbledygook.

You could pull a muscle in your brain if you try too hard to map it onto any known logic system.


49 posted on 09/06/2013 8:52:57 AM PDT by Nervous Tick (Without GOD, men get what they deserve.)
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To: Jim Noble

Dreads that? Hah! He has been told to avoid that, told by the people that hold his ‘secret’ files. Bonehead is an owned whore.


50 posted on 09/06/2013 8:53:29 AM PDT by MHGinTN (Being deceived can be cured.)
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