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Obama's Successful Foreign Failure (Norman Podhoretz)
online.wsj.com ^ | 9/9/2013 | Norman Podhoretz

Posted on 09/09/2013 6:49:32 AM PDT by RoosterRedux

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To: Graewoulf

So, lemme get this: you want to replace Boner, who has caved to Odinga numerous times, with West, who voted with Odinga on citizen surveillance and detention, and redistribution of wealth to blacks?

Look those up, too...


21 posted on 09/09/2013 8:28:43 AM PDT by Old Sarge (Opinions are like orgasms: only mine count, and I couldn't care less if you have one...)
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To: Graewoulf

How about Sarah Palin or Newt Gingrich?


22 posted on 09/09/2013 8:38:20 AM PDT by butterdezillion (,)
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To: RoosterRedux; Graewoulf

Remember when we were ALL Americans, sober at the prospect of a war, or of taking some military action, but we were all able to be John Wayne about it in the end, because everything was black and white, our leaders instinctively knew that we knew that some action had to be taken to beat back communism, even before they rang the bell.

WWII showed us our competence and courage and our ingenuity paid off in the factories and our fathers showed up and enlisted to go deliver all of it “over there”. We could trust the American next to us then.

Now it’s so insidious here. Chemical weapons and drones are the future, while espionage, sabatage, propaganda and indoctrination flourish in our schools and institutions. The churches now are therapeutic to draw a crowd, or Spiritless and losing the crowd.

The strangeness of the times has turned us into muses who are confined to ballot battles, one by one. I hope it works, but with no no assault on the source, curriculum, even in sight, I don’t really see where it will ever end.


23 posted on 09/09/2013 8:58:44 AM PDT by RitaOK ( VIVA CHRISTO REY / Public education is the farm team for more Marxists coming.)
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To: RoosterRedux

well, he’s right.

pray for America


25 posted on 09/09/2013 10:24:37 AM PDT by faithhopecharity (E)
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To: ClearCase_guy

Sometimes the aftermath of a forest fire is wonderful new growth ... one can only hope this is the case after Obama exits the stage. Until then it’s “battan down the hatches” time.


26 posted on 09/09/2013 10:34:18 AM PDT by The Duke
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To: RoosterRedux
I think Norman Norman Podhoretz has been reading our mail:

Dangerous Times: Are Obama's Syrian Stumbles Good for America?

9/7/2013 5:58:36 PM · 11 of 37

nathanbedford to RoosterRedux

By now it's impossible to avoid the conclusion that Obama is fervently anti-American. Which is what you might learn from his personal history, all the way from Mom the Stalinist, to his "mentor" Frank Davis the child pornographer, all the way to the "Reverend" Jerry Wright and the Alinsky Machine in Chicago The only incongruity in the quoted portion above is the qualification "by now." There were many of us who posted countless times before Obama was sworn in that his biography, his autobiography, his associations, and his writings as well is his public statements all compel the conclusion that he was a radical leftist, perhaps a Manchurian Muslim, and no friend of the United States of America.

One might take issue with the author's assessment that Obama is a bumbler, it might be rather that he has a very difficult needle to thread which is to consistently aid the enemies of America, for example, as the author points out, the Muslim brotherhood, while not appearing blatant about it. It is difficult to know exactly what Obama's hidden agenda is but he cannot act entirely as a free agent even among his most trusted White House intimates and certainly not with such public figures as John Kerry or Chuck Hagel. That is not to say that these men share our agenda but it is to say that they would certainly react to any overt act of treason they observed in Obama. At least Obama cannot be certain that they would fail to react.

Finally, it is well to remember that Obama is a radical leftist and that is an animal very different from a leftist like Jimmy Carter. Obama is not Jimmy Carter on steroids. Obama is an entirely different kind of leftist, one who aggressively seeks to diminish America and remove it as the principal obstacle to one world socialism (or a worldwide caliphate if you are in that camp). These aggressive leftists, think Trotsky, chairman Mao, Pol Pot, Stalin are to a man indifferent to human suffering and quite willing to order an effusion of blood to advance their own power. I do not believe for a minute that Obama will shrink from waging war to advance his agenda. I think his problem is to find an inflection point which the public will accept and which advances a cause which the public, if aware of its real purpose, would oppose bitterly.


27 posted on 09/09/2013 10:36:09 AM PDT by nathanbedford ("Attack, repeat, attack!" Bull Halsey)
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To: Servant of the Cross

Rush has discussed Mr. Podhoretz’s column on todays program.


28 posted on 09/09/2013 10:43:33 AM PDT by KeyLargo
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To: Jack Hydrazine

If you read the column you will see that Obama is in fact not an epic fail.


29 posted on 09/09/2013 10:44:45 AM PDT by KeyLargo
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To: Don Corleone

Thank you for being one of the few posters that actually read the column.


30 posted on 09/09/2013 10:45:52 AM PDT by KeyLargo
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To: Servant of the Cross

Most folks thought The New Yorker was just foolin’ and making fun of conservatives.
I knew that cover was 100% accurate.


31 posted on 09/09/2013 10:46:16 AM PDT by Little Ray (How did I end up in this hand-basket, and why is it getting so hot?)
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To: RoosterRedux; Allegra; big'ol_freeper; Lil'freeper; TrueKnightGalahad; blackie; Cincinatus' Wife; ..
If an American President had just acted, knocking the crap out of Syria and/or Iran for their actions and intentions, I'd support them whether they were Republican or Democrat, but Obama makes me ashamed he is in the Oval Office.

I know know how the Brits felt when Chamberlain was in the saddle 'making the world safe for Democracy!'

32 posted on 09/09/2013 10:46:30 AM PDT by Bender2 ("I've got a twisted sense of humor, and everything amuses me." RAH Beyond this Horizon)
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To: nathanbedford
lol...I think your case for plagiarism or at least theft of ideas against Podhoretz will hold up in court of Freeper peers.

As to whether Kerry or Hagel would take action if they thought he were engaged in treasonous acts...it depends on what Obama's NSA has on these guys.

Like you, I've never thought Barry was incompetent unless viewed from a traditional American POV. He's done a fine job of destroying the country...and that appears to have always been his goal.

33 posted on 09/09/2013 10:47:26 AM PDT by RoosterRedux (The only true wisdom is in knowing you know nothing.” Socrates)
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To: nathanbedford

On a more serious note, I wouldn’t be at all surprised in Norman Podhoretz spent his late evenings reading FR threads.


34 posted on 09/09/2013 10:52:11 AM PDT by RoosterRedux (The only true wisdom is in knowing you know nothing.” Socrates)
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To: Don Corleone

Just a few threads today where the writers assume that Obama is a failure when in fact he is doing exactly as designed. They just don’t get it.

Video: WH worried that Syria loss will cripple Obama presidency
Monday, September 09, 2013 12:02:29 PM · by NCjim · 25 replies
Hot Air ^ | September 9, 2013 | Ed Morrissey

Things Fall Apart for Obama
Monday, September 09, 2013 12:28:21 PM · by NCjim · 20 replies
American Thinker ^ | September 9, 2013 | Thomas Lifson

Going to War with the Blind General of Benghazi (An Apology)
Monday, September 09, 2013 12:23:08 PM · by Kaslin · 4 replies
PJ Media ^ | September 8, 2013 | Roger L. Simon


35 posted on 09/09/2013 10:56:21 AM PDT by KeyLargo
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To: Servant of the Cross

36 posted on 09/09/2013 11:00:25 AM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Bender2
I now know how the Brits felt when Chamberlain was in the saddle 'making the world safe for Democracy!'


37 posted on 09/09/2013 11:02:58 AM PDT by Old Sarge (Opinions are like orgasms: only mine count, and I couldn't care less if you have one...)
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To: Servant of the Cross

Quote: “Yet if this is indeed the pass to which Mr. Obama has led us—and I think it is—let me suggest that it signifies not how incompetent and amateurish the president is, but how skillful. His foreign policy, far from a dismal failure, is a brilliant success as measured by what he intended all along to accomplish.’

Oh for eff sakes. This is nice thinking but gives the man far too much credit. The ONE is all about the ONE and not going to do a damn thing that makes himself look or seem foolish. Make no mistake, Syria is doing just that. This article presupposes that he is willing to throw his ego on the fire to bring America down. HA!! He would not throw a hair on his head into the fire much less his ego.


38 posted on 09/09/2013 11:04:21 AM PDT by FlipWilson
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To: RoosterRedux
The only thing missing from Podhoretz' review of history is Obama's "see how it plays out" response to the street riots in Iran in 2009 that led to the publicized shooting death of "Neda."

-PJ

39 posted on 09/09/2013 11:05:14 AM PDT by Political Junkie Too (If you are the Posterity of We the People, then you are a Natural Born Citizen.)
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To: KeyLargo

My opinion says otherwise!


40 posted on 09/09/2013 4:16:20 PM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (IÂ’m not a Republican, I'm a Conservative! Pubbies haven't been conservative since before T.R.)
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