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Putin Didn't Save Obama, He Beat Him
The Weekly Standard ^ | Sep 10, 2013 | Lee Smith

Posted on 09/10/2013 10:07:53 AM PDT by Hoodat

Maybe Barack Obama and Vladimir Putin really did discuss the idea of putting Syrian chemical weapons under international control last week on the sidelines of the G20 conference. Putin sure doesn’t care that Obama’s taking credit for the proposal, or that the administration is posturing like a Mob enforcer. “The only reason why we are seeing this proposal,” said White House spokesman Jay Carney, “is because of the U.S. threat of military action.”

Right, Putin is laughing to himself. Whatever. If Obama wants to sell it like a Christmas miracle on Pennsylvania Avenue that’s fine with Putin, because Putin won.

Reset with Russia was originally a strategic priority for the Obama administration because it saw Moscow as the key to getting Iran to come to the negotiating table. Putin, from the White House’s perspective, was destined for the role of junior partner. Now Putin has turned “Reset” upside down. By helping Obama out of a jam with Syria, Putin has made himself the senior partner to whom the White House is now beholden. Accordingly, when Putin proposes the same sort of deal with Iran, with Russia having established its bona fides as an interlocutor for Syria, Obama is almost certain to jump at it.

What’s unclear is whether Obama understands that his foreign policy legacy will be to have ruined the American position in the Middle East, our patrimony of the last seven decades. If the 1979 takeover of the U.S. embassy in Tehran signaled weakness, the Russian deal screams surrender. The real surprise is that it’s not Iran kicking the United States out of the region under Obama’s watch, but Putin. . . .

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; News/Current Events; Russia
KEYWORDS: bho44; bhomiddleeast; bhorussia; blunders; emptysuit; mrclaireshipman; obama; putin; reset; russia; russianreset; surrender; syria; wmd
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I cannot remember a time in world history where incompetence ran this high.
1 posted on 09/10/2013 10:07:53 AM PDT by Hoodat
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To: Hoodat

Putin took him to the Hoop


2 posted on 09/10/2013 10:08:28 AM PDT by al baby (Hi Mom)
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To: Hoodat

He Kept Our Boys From Dying In Syria


3 posted on 09/10/2013 10:09:24 AM PDT by Iron Munro ("You bring me the man, I'll find you the crime" - Lavrentiy Beria [and Eric Holder])
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To: al baby
Putin took him to the Hoop

Putin made O'Bozo eat his Cheerios with a home-made wooden spork.


4 posted on 09/10/2013 10:14:21 AM PDT by Iron Munro ("You bring me the man, I'll find you the crime" - Lavrentiy Beria [and Eric Holder])
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To: Iron Munro

Read the article. Putin is not our friend. He will exploit this for years to come. Syria never gives up it’s chemical weapons. The price of oil and gas remains elevated due to permanent uncertainty as well as Saudi dissatisfaction. And Iran continues its nuclear program unmolested.


5 posted on 09/10/2013 10:14:34 AM PDT by Hoodat (BENGHAZI - 4 KILLED, 2 MIA)
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To: Hoodat

Putin has just made an announcement

“Syrian chemical weapons exchange will ONLY work if the US rejects force”

He may be forcing Obama into a vote anyway!


6 posted on 09/10/2013 10:17:29 AM PDT by Viennacon
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To: Hoodat

Much as I relish the world now seeing how incompetent this feckless fool is, it is not good for America to be this compromised.


7 posted on 09/10/2013 10:17:38 AM PDT by colorado tanker
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To: Hoodat; Iron Munro

Neither is Obama so whats your point?


8 posted on 09/10/2013 10:18:22 AM PDT by al baby (Hi Mom)
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To: Hoodat

Masterfully played by Putin. Obama couldn’t have looked more inept if he’d tried. The freaking RUSSIAN president makes the US president look like a kid running for student council in 4th grade.

Putin played Obama like a cheap fiddle. I wouldn’t be surprised if Obama decides to drop bombs anyway just to save what little face he has left.

I predict he’ll spin this tonight as he—Obama—having “organized the international community” to avoid war.

Take a bow, fellow Americans. We’re the comic relief to serious politicians around the globe.


9 posted on 09/10/2013 10:19:30 AM PDT by VideoPaul
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To: colorado tanker
True but this country is like a reckless addict. With each new unbelievable calamity, you think, "surely THIS is the bottom".

However, it never is. New lows, new shames, new scares, just keep coming.

10 posted on 09/10/2013 10:20:38 AM PDT by riri (Plannedopolis-look it up. It's how the elites plan for US to live.)
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To: Hoodat
Putin Didn't Save Obama, He Beat Him

Actually it was both. Putin has every reason to want Zero to remain effective in office, because it will do more damage to America.

11 posted on 09/10/2013 10:20:58 AM PDT by Carry_Okie (Islam offers choices: convert, submit, or die.)
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To: VideoPaul

Don’t forget Obummer tonight will blame the Republicans.

“I could not get the Republicans to help with this thorny issue, so I had to turn to Vladimir Putin...”


12 posted on 09/10/2013 10:22:13 AM PDT by MustKnowHistory
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To: colorado tanker
it is not good for America to be this compromised.

I see this as problematic on more than just the "country-as-a-whole" front. IF this is not scripted by Obama's handlers, and Putin legitimately threw a curveball at our feckless leader, then the bigger problem will be Obama's reaction. Obama is a clinical narcissist. He is the very definition of narcissism, and I personally believe that he will take this rebuke by both Putin and the House as a personal slight. When you make a narcissist look a fool, the sociopathic tendencies will grow to a point of violence.

Obama commands a large standing army who will likely follow his commands at least until the NCOs start stepping down en masse. Unless and until that happen, I fear Obama will use military force against world powers and against the American people to silence opposition or ridicule.

I hope I'm wrong, but I see the cancer that is Obama entering stage 4 very soon, and metastasis will be violent.

13 posted on 09/10/2013 10:22:14 AM PDT by rarestia (It's time to water the Tree of Liberty.)
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To: Hoodat

“I cannot remember a time in world history where incompetence ran this high.”

Carter was pretty incompetent but at least he was an honest man regardless of his politics. The problem with Obama is that he’s an incompetent amateur, has bad policies and plays dirty politics. There’s very little that is redeeming about Obama.

The thing I never understood was why the left loved Obama as a community organizer. What did he do that was so great for his community? From what I understand he arranged some government loans for some housing projects for politicoal cronies which went into disrepair — correct me if I’m wrong with my recollection. It’s not like Obama was Mother Teresa working directly with the down trodden. Obama’s nothing but a fraud who likes being called by sycophants and handlers that he’s a great man while indulging in the perks of office.


14 posted on 09/10/2013 10:22:18 AM PDT by AtlasStalled
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To: Hoodat
Putin is not our friend. He will exploit this for years to come.

Of course he will.

That is a small part of the price America pays for its insane obsession with political correctness.

Electing an incompetent dumbo because he has a black skin might have felt good for some when they did it, but the pain, suffering and damage it brought will linger long after Obama is just a bad memory.


15 posted on 09/10/2013 10:22:45 AM PDT by Iron Munro ("You bring me the man, I'll find you the crime" - Lavrentiy Beria [and Eric Holder])
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To: colorado tanker

All politics is local.

What good is a strong USA in the world
if we become a third-world economy through
socialism?

Defeat socialism at home and we can return
to the world stage later.

To the end of defeating socialism, this weakening
of a communist US president is a good thing.


16 posted on 09/10/2013 10:23:21 AM PDT by WKTimpco
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To: Viennacon

Where did you see that announcement? I can’t find it anywhere.

And Putin knows Obimbo can not go along with it, since the official propaganda coming out of the White Hut is that the proposal was only taken seriously because of the threat of bombing.


17 posted on 09/10/2013 10:23:33 AM PDT by green iguana
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To: al baby

That’ll leave a mark....


18 posted on 09/10/2013 10:26:37 AM PDT by Cyber Liberty (Uncle Miltie: Obama poisoned race relations for a generation. Everything is racial now.)
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To: green iguana

America Live announced it.


19 posted on 09/10/2013 10:26:52 AM PDT by Viennacon
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To: Hoodat
Syria never gives up it’s chemical weapons.
The price of oil and gas remains elevated due to permanent uncertainty as well as Saudi dissatisfaction.
And Iran continues its nuclear program unmolested.

And is this on Putin or Obama The Incompetent?

Are we now moving on from "Bush Did It!" to "Putin Did It!" ?


20 posted on 09/10/2013 10:27:04 AM PDT by Iron Munro ("You bring me the man, I'll find you the crime" - Lavrentiy Beria [and Eric Holder])
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To: Hoodat
Putin sure doesn’t care that Obama’s taking credit for the proposal

That's the best way to win....win in a way that your opponent actually feels good about it.

21 posted on 09/10/2013 10:27:28 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Hoodat

Putin has been running circles around Buggery since May and this is the second threat of war with Russia since then over Syria. Putin has Buggery on his “list” too killing him by the death of 1000 cuts.


22 posted on 09/10/2013 10:30:55 AM PDT by DarthVader (Politicians govern out of self interest, Statesmen govern for a Vision greater than themselves)
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To: Viennacon

Thanks. Should be up on Foxnews soon then.


23 posted on 09/10/2013 10:30:57 AM PDT by green iguana
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To: Hoodat
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24 posted on 09/10/2013 10:31:03 AM PDT by Snickering Hound
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To: All

Damn sad when a Russian President & former KGB Officer had to stop a US President from starting WWIII and with the same action show the world just how weak “0” is. Then “0” and Kerry prove just how stupid they are by taking credit and of course the MSM is all in on just how brilliant a move Kerry & “0” made.

Bet the House of Saudi is just pissed. When will the next Saudi money backed Terrorist attack on a US event happen? Remember the Saudi money man in Boston that was whisked out of the country!


25 posted on 09/10/2013 10:32:25 AM PDT by thegrump
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To: Hoodat

Putin Saved America from going into another war. Putin is our friend


26 posted on 09/10/2013 10:32:42 AM PDT by 4rcane
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To: colorado tanker
Much as I relish the world now seeing how incompetent this feckless fool is, it is not good for America to be this compromised.

Yes, it is a two-edged sword.

Now consider---Onono's dithering on Syria---made to look like a fool on the world state----has put a serious crimp in his sub rosa plans to be president forever.

27 posted on 09/10/2013 10:35:07 AM PDT by Liz
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To: Hoodat
This excellent Stratfor article explains things: Syria, America and Putin's Bluff
28 posted on 09/10/2013 10:37:36 AM PDT by The Truth Will Make You Free
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To: Hoodat
Putin is not anyone’s friend not even Russia's.
29 posted on 09/10/2013 10:38:03 AM PDT by Sam Gamgee (May God have mercy upon my enemies, because I won't. - Patton)
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To: Hoodat

Obama is not our friend. Putin might be, but Obama most definitely is not.


30 posted on 09/10/2013 10:38:25 AM PDT by ilovesarah2012
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To: Hoodat
I was going to contradict you and offer up the name of one Jimmy Carter.

But as I thought about it, Zbigniew Brzezinski seems like a kind of genius compared the leading lights of Team 0bama.

So your original statement stands.

31 posted on 09/10/2013 10:42:07 AM PDT by mojito (Zero, our Nero.)
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To: Hoodat
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32 posted on 09/10/2013 10:44:25 AM PDT by RetSignman (Standing my ground against group think.)
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To: 4rcane
Putin Saved America from going into another war. Putin is our friend.......

That's not too far from the truth but for another reason. There's a whole other dynamic going on here.

I believe Putin (a committed Christian) is siding w/ Assad---b/c Assad accepts Christians. The Syrian rebels are Muslims who want to destroy Christianity.

The rebels want Assad out b/c he interferes w/ the Muzzie plan to destroy Christians.

NOTE WELL And when Egyptian Gen al-Sisi defended Egyptian Christians against marauding Muslims.... al-Sisi also got backing from Russia's Putin......and China.....NOT Obama.

At the height of the Egyptian crisis, when vacationing Ohoho called al-Sisi, the general refused to take his call---showing al-Sisi's determination not to let Ohoho interfere in his plan to drive Muslims out of Egyptian politics.

Al-Sisi's got the lay of the land---he and Putin know who's got the ear of our Muslim president.

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33 posted on 09/10/2013 10:46:30 AM PDT by Liz
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To: Hoodat

Jimmy Carter was equally incompetent.


34 posted on 09/10/2013 10:46:46 AM PDT by Presbyterian Reporter
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To: MustKnowHistory

““I could not get the Republicans to help with this thorny issue, so I had to turn to Vladimir Putin...””

If Obama says this tonight, I will donate 100 dollars to your favorite charity.


35 posted on 09/10/2013 10:48:42 AM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (Make today a great day. Insult a liberal.)
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To: Hoodat

What really happened:

Assad is here to stay. He is beating the rebels badly and it is just a matter of time.
Putin, through Assad, protects Christians which is a concern of his.
Assad secures the gas from his own people as well as rebels.

Possible effect: Israel is now protected from massive retaliation by Assad.

Putin is no the Big Man On Campus.

Barry goes back to handling Ben Ghazi, the IRS scandal, fast and furious etc, ad nauseum.

Clean win for Putin.


36 posted on 09/10/2013 10:48:57 AM PDT by buffaloguy
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To: buffaloguy

Putin is now the Big Man On Campus


37 posted on 09/10/2013 10:49:22 AM PDT by buffaloguy
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To: Hoodat

It would be ironic if Putin wins the Nobel Peace Prize. Obama and Kerry look like bumbling idiots who get “saved” by the Russians.


38 posted on 09/10/2013 10:54:54 AM PDT by The Great RJ
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To: Hoodat
What’s unclear is whether Obama understands that his foreign policy legacy will be to have ruined the American position in the Middle East, our patrimony of the last seven decades.

... WITH the help of Hillary...

39 posted on 09/10/2013 11:00:53 AM PDT by GOPJ (Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts - Churchill)
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To: colorado tanker

A question I have is the opposition in all of this. They must feel very betrayed by Obama. This must be seen by their perspective that it weakens their opposition against assad. Also you can’t disarm assad of his chemical weapons without demanding the same from the opposition.

This is why IMHO this is going to fail. I think by calling this bluff on obam putin and assad are in the catbird seat. I think behind the scenes the administration is not happy. It has been reported that the opposition does not want this deal. Now the Russians are moving in for the kill. They already set a condition that the us must take use of force off the table before a deal would be agreed to. I don’t see this as a way out for Obama at all.


40 posted on 09/10/2013 11:03:43 AM PDT by waxer1 (A Republic if you can keep it--Benjamin Franklin. Well we lost it.)
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To: Hoodat

Obama acts like he has a kick me sign on his back and nobody outside the USA will tell him.


41 posted on 09/10/2013 11:05:25 AM PDT by mandaladon (The truth about Benghazi is all I want)
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To: Hoodat

First I find myself rooting for a traitor who went to Russia. Then I find myself admiring the Russian ruler.

The only constant in my worldview is that John McCain is still nuts as ever and Lindsey Graham is acting like he needs to stay in the closet.


42 posted on 09/10/2013 11:07:24 AM PDT by Raycpa
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To: Hoodat

Heck, if Putin HADN’T beat done O-blamer, I would have been surprised. This was definitely a case of the 1927 Yankees vs. 1962 Mets.


43 posted on 09/10/2013 11:08:00 AM PDT by ssaftler (Oh, hell YEAH!!!! This is absolutely Obama's fault)
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To: VideoPaul

Obama may claim that he was intentionally employing the same strategy used by Riggs (played by Mel Gibson) in the Lethal Weapon movies.


44 posted on 09/10/2013 11:09:55 AM PDT by AJFavish (www.allanfavish.com)
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To: Hoodat; Alamo-Girl; hosepipe
Obama simply isn't ready for prime time. Putin has sprung a trap that this president simply can't easily extricate himself from. He is just as awful at foreign as he is at domestic policy.

But then, no real surprise there. He thinks that rhetoric trumps reality — but the fact is, it doesn't. Putin does not suffer from that illusion.

It's shameful to me that American foreign policy is being conducted by the Keystone Cops these days, from Lurch, our SecState, to the Oval Office and its minions.

45 posted on 09/10/2013 11:11:38 AM PDT by betty boop
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To: MustKnowHistory

He should thank the Republicans and the people for shutting his Middle Eastern “shot cross the bow” debacle down. If not, he would be knee deep in desert sh!? right now.


46 posted on 09/10/2013 11:16:35 AM PDT by Toespi
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To: Hoodat

;)

Semper Blogging !!!!!
Dick G
*****


47 posted on 09/10/2013 11:17:54 AM PDT by gunnyg ("A Constitution changed from Freedom, can never be restored; Liberty, once lost, is lost forever...)
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To: waxer1

I agree with you. The opposition must feel very betrayed. The Obozo regime’s incompetence will repeat what happened in Egypt, where at the end of the day all factions are angry with us.


48 posted on 09/10/2013 11:26:28 AM PDT by colorado tanker
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To: waxer1

I agree with you. The opposition must feel very betrayed. The Obozo regime’s incompetence will repeat what happened in Egypt, where at the end of the day all factions are angry with us.


49 posted on 09/10/2013 11:26:29 AM PDT by colorado tanker
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To: Hoodat

The mighty Bear ate the cowardice rat.

I have 1000 times more respect for President Putin than I do for that lying muslim trash that presently contaminates our White House.


50 posted on 09/10/2013 11:33:00 AM PDT by Gator113
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