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Missouri House fails to override veto of tax cut legislation
STL Today (St. Louis Post Dispatch) ^ | Sept. 11, 2013 | Elizabeth Crisp

Posted on 09/11/2013 1:42:01 PM PDT by Da Bilge Troll

JEFFERSON CITY • The Missouri House has failed to override Gov. Jay Nixon’s veto of legislation that would cut state income taxes for the first time in nearly a century.

The vote, which happened after more than an hour and a half of debate near the start of the state Legislature’s annual veto session today, signaled a key victory for Nixon, who has spent the summer advocating against the tax legislation, which he often characterized as poorly drafted.

“This (legislation) is bad tax policy and bad public policy,” state Rep. Jill Schupp, a Creve Coeur Democrat who spoke out against the override attempt.

Republicans went into today’s vote with a very slim chance of overruling Nixon.

Override attempts need 109 votes in the House, where Republicans hold exactly 109 seats. Several GOP members had already spoken out against the bill, which Nixon argued would raise the prices of college textbooks and prescription drugs while leading to a drop in state funding for education and other services. The final House vote was 94-67. Without two-thirds of the chamber in favor, no vote will be taken in the Senate.

Advocates in favor of the tax legislation filled the House chamber for much of today’s debate.

“We want to help the people of Missouri grow,” said Rep. TJ Berry, a Republican from Kearney who sponsored the bill.

Lawmakers still have an opportunity to override several of Nixon’s other vetoes from this year’s legislative session.

Early on, both chambers managed to override a partial veto of a budget bill, freeing up $1 million for the reconstruction of a main building at the Pike-Lincoln Technical Center that was destroyed in a 2011 fire.

(Excerpt) Read more at stltoday.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Extended News; News/Current Events; US: Missouri
KEYWORDS: missouri; nomorerinos; rinos; rinosbegone; taxcut; veto
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To: 1010RD

No, it’s not fair. Imho, we should all pay the same amount in taxes, and that includes every adult citizen.


21 posted on 09/14/2013 4:46:05 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: 1010RD

22 posted on 09/14/2013 5:34:57 PM PDT by narses
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To: trisham

” Imho, we should all pay the same amount in taxes, and that includes every adult citizen. “

So, a “head tax”? Everyone pays the same exact amount? Including the blind? And the disabled? Pregnant women?


23 posted on 09/14/2013 5:36:04 PM PDT by narses
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To: narses
Goodnight, sleepyhead.

When you awake try reading Bastiat: http://mises.org/page/1434

He's a great read and the battle between the seen (the tax cut in this case) and the unseen (the damage the tax cut does) occurs all the time. Crony capitalism is destructive.

24 posted on 09/14/2013 5:37:37 PM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: narses

Yes.


25 posted on 09/14/2013 5:39:10 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: trisham

And where has that system been used in the modern world? And how much would that come to for you monthly?


26 posted on 09/14/2013 5:41:03 PM PDT by narses
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To: 1010RD

Sophomoric hypotheticals are fun in colege, in the real world your ideas have zero traction, except among the young, foolish and doper crowd.


27 posted on 09/14/2013 5:42:18 PM PDT by narses
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To: 1010RD

Sophomoric hypotheticals are fun in college, in the real world your ideas have zero traction, except among the young, foolish and doper crowd.


28 posted on 09/14/2013 5:42:30 PM PDT by narses
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To: narses
And where has that system been used in the modern world? And how much would that come to for you monthly?

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Are you suggesting that it's not progressive enough? I'll give you that. It's not progressive at all. It is fair, however.

29 posted on 09/14/2013 5:43:45 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: narses

You’re double posting, don’t know what you’re talking about, and sound crabby. Go to bed.


30 posted on 09/14/2013 6:06:06 PM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: 1010RD

And you sound like an arrogant Libertine. Sorry, but you do. Is it the dope?


31 posted on 09/14/2013 6:55:24 PM PDT by narses
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To: trisham

“Are you suggesting that it’s not progressive enough?”

Nope.

I am simply asking, where has that system been used in the modern world? And how much would that come to for you monthly?


32 posted on 09/14/2013 6:56:19 PM PDT by narses
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To: narses
Nope. I am simply asking, where has that system been used in the modern world? And how much would that come to for you monthly?

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Nothing would come to me monthly.

33 posted on 09/14/2013 7:02:45 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: trisham

What would you (and all of us) pay in taxes monthly? Or every year or....?


34 posted on 09/14/2013 7:04:06 PM PDT by narses
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To: trisham

I am simply asking, where has that system been used in the modern world?


35 posted on 09/14/2013 7:04:30 PM PDT by narses
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To: narses
We would pay nothing compared to what we pay today if we were to dismantle the IRS, the public school system, welfare, the TSA, and every other government assistance program.

What would you do?

36 posted on 09/14/2013 7:13:03 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: trisham
We would pay nothing compared to what we pay today if we were to dismantle the IRS, the public school system, welfare, the TSA, and every other government assistance program.
How do you propose we do that? And where is the tax system you prefer to ours in the real world?
37 posted on 09/14/2013 8:27:01 PM PDT by narses
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To: 1010RD
How about two?

I call those tax "breaks", not tax cuts, so we're talking past each other. That's just crony capitalism and I agree that it must be fought.

On the other hand, an across-the-board tax "cut" to an existing tax that applies generally is always a good thing.

38 posted on 09/15/2013 1:57:50 PM PDT by Da Bilge Troll (Defeatism is not a winning strategy!)
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