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California Legislature approves raising minimum wage to $10 — the highest of any state
San Jose Mercury News ^ | 09/13/2013 | Josh Richman and Mike Rosenberg

Posted on 09/13/2013 7:13:36 AM PDT by artichokegrower

SACRAMENTO -- California's lowest-paid workers are in store for a 25 percent raise after lawmakers late Thursday boosted the Golden State's minimum wage to the highest of any state in the country.

In the final hours of its 2013 regular session, the Legislature voted to hike the minimum wage from $8 an hour to $9 next July and $10 by January 2016 -- a move Democrats praised as a boon to struggling workers and Republicans lambasted as a "job killer."

Gov. Jerry Brown has already promised to sign the bill, making California a leader in a growing movement to increase wages for the working poor spurred by protesting fast-food workers across the country.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Government; US: California
KEYWORDS: california; democrats; employment; governmentcontrol; kalifornia; minimumwage
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To: Buckeye McFrog
They will continue beating us over the head with the “facts” that the 1968 Minimum Wage, adjusted for inflation, would be a bit over $10.

According to the CPI, the 1968 minimum wage would be worth $7.59 today. If you use the 1967 minimum wage, it comes to only $6.87 in today's dollars.

41 posted on 09/13/2013 9:07:32 AM PDT by Hoodat (BENGHAZI - 4 KILLED, 2 MIA)
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To: artichokegrower
it never fails to amaze me..liberals think $$$ grows on trees..
higher min. wage means loss of jobs/less
productive output..lower profitable businesses.

42 posted on 09/13/2013 9:07:51 AM PDT by skinkinthegrass (who'll take tomorrow,$pend it all today;who can take your income & tax it all away..0'Blowfly can :-)
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To: CarmichaelPatriot

Burger King has had the conveyor belt flame broiler for quite a while. Whenever I mention the fact that raising minumum wages merely enhances the incentive to automate processes the economically illiterate class always just pshaws it and goes off topic...


43 posted on 09/13/2013 9:18:44 AM PDT by Axenolith (Government blows, and that which governs least, blows least...)
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To: Hoodat

The irony of a 91% upper income tax rate is that it effectively prevents EVERYONE not already rich from approaching that level. The already rich are well sheltered through trusts and legal tax avoidance schemes that it would take Joe Shmoe half a lifetime to get a grasp on, and he can’t afford the legal and accounting staff to do it sooner...


44 posted on 09/13/2013 9:22:21 AM PDT by Axenolith (Government blows, and that which governs least, blows least...)
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To: Mastador1

So, after your 20 years experience you still hadn’t figured out that your particular restaurants were free all along to offer a wage that would have attracted the desired labor? Yet you accuse us of treating the industry as a “low class” industry....

Can you see a connection?


45 posted on 09/13/2013 9:28:43 AM PDT by CSM (Keeper of the Dave Ramsey Ping list. FReepmail me if you want your beeber stuned.)
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To: Axenolith
the incentive to automate processes the economically illiterate class always just pshaws it and goes off topic

Sheetz gas stations - lots opening in the SouthEast - are already automating.

Touchscreens to order. Pay for your order at the cash register - which is likely needed in a gas station, not so much in a McD's....could just put a credit card swipe on the side of the touchscreen..... Finally, one or sometimes two people cooking in the back.

That's all there is. I'll guess that's close to where fast food is headed, since $7.50/hr is a good salary for a smiling-faced button-pusher and change-giver, but $15/hr is a good salary for a basic technician to keep the automation going.

Liberals need to be careful for what they wish for. They may get it.

46 posted on 09/13/2013 9:28:57 AM PDT by wbill
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To: Mastador1

Naive?

I see immigrants, seniors, and students in SoCal. Perhaps my eye sight is bad also.

I oppose ,minimum wage laws


47 posted on 09/13/2013 9:30:11 AM PDT by morphing libertarian
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To: Mastador1

“Technology has been hell on fast food employment for a long long time.”

Yeah, and the automobile was hell on the horse breeders! Steel smelting was hell on blacksmiths...

Do you realize that what you listed as “hell on fast food” is actually called productivity improvement and is a leading indicator for growing economies?


48 posted on 09/13/2013 9:30:58 AM PDT by CSM (Keeper of the Dave Ramsey Ping list. FReepmail me if you want your beeber stuned.)
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To: Buckeye McFrog

When you start with a fraudulant premise (minimum wage) then you can only expand that fraud. (you = your use of they, not you in particular)


49 posted on 09/13/2013 9:32:28 AM PDT by CSM (Keeper of the Dave Ramsey Ping list. FReepmail me if you want your beeber stuned.)
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To: artichokegrower

Wonder how many public union wage agreements are indexed off of minimum wage?


50 posted on 09/13/2013 9:34:32 AM PDT by IamConservative (The soul of my lifes journey is Liberty!)
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To: Axenolith
Nothing ironic about it. This has been the Democrat Party MO for over 150 years now. Those who are connected retain their status. The proles are told that the Dems are working on their behalf, while in truth their 'have-not' status is being secured as a permanent voting block for years to come. As I have always said, the proof that Democrats love poor people is because they keep creating more and more of them. If these proles ever rose up beyond their permanent victimhood state, then they would no longer be Democrats. So the party must protect the status quo. People bettering themselves is an anathema to the Dem Party.

Another thing to consider is how they handle zoning laws and rent control. In San Francisco, rules have been set in place to protect those liberals who put these rules in place. But if you are a newcomer who wishes to share in this utopia, you will find that there is no welcome mat for you. Likewise, in NY City, rent controls ensure that those currently receiving them (i.e. Charlie Rangel) will have low rents forever, but the newcomer will find that rents for him will be exorbitantly high.

51 posted on 09/13/2013 9:48:28 AM PDT by Hoodat (BENGHAZI - 4 KILLED, 2 MIA)
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To: artichokegrower

There were 1.3 million businesses in California at the end of 2012, 5.2% fewer than in 2011 (that’s about 73,000 fewer).

The day after Proposition 30 passed (November 6, 2012), triggering $6 billion in new annual taxes, Arizona launched a campaign to lure some of California’s top companies.

24 chief executives have now committed to leave California.

Intel announced that it will be investing billions to upgrade factories in Arizona, in addition to building a new factory in Oregon. The plan is projected to create between 6,000 and 8,000 construction jobs and 800 to 1,000 high-tech factory jobs, a huge loss for California.

“The Intel investment in Oregon, when you add it to Arizona, is $8 billion, with a ‘B,’ so the exodus of capital from California is running at an alarming rate.”


52 posted on 09/13/2013 9:50:53 AM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy (The best War on Terror News is at rantburg.com)
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To: artichokegrower

I just realized what California is doing is very patriotic.

They are willing to sacrifice their state to defeat Agenda 21!

Agenda 21 calls for the depopulation of middle America, with its population relocated to the coasts. But by making California so business unfriendly, California is driving people back into the heartland.

So three cheers for California!


53 posted on 09/13/2013 9:54:59 AM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy (The best War on Terror News is at rantburg.com)
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy

Within a month of that prop passing a friend of mine saw his property value go up about 20% on the NV side of Tahoe from the number of units that sold to Californians in that period...


54 posted on 09/13/2013 9:57:07 AM PDT by Axenolith (Government blows, and that which governs least, blows least...)
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To: DarrellZero

why sugar coat things
why not tell us how you really feel??


55 posted on 09/13/2013 10:06:06 AM PDT by genghis
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To: CSM

Do you understand the concept of profitability? I paid my employees as well as I could sometimes to my detriment since I had to answer to the Owner/Operator.Did I I in effect at any time infer that you were ignorant as you seem to be happy to slime me? Well let me say it now you are ignorant and to have no experience in the industry that I can infer for you to reply intelligently.Did I accuse YOU of treating the industry as low class? No not unless you are one of the many people I have interacted with over many years that have expressed that opinion. Can you see the connection? Apparently not!


56 posted on 09/13/2013 11:45:39 AM PDT by Mastador1 (I'll take a bad dog over a good politician any day!)
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To: CSM

Oh Ok let me rephrase it for you,. hell on fast food employment numbers.


57 posted on 09/13/2013 11:46:57 AM PDT by Mastador1 (I'll take a bad dog over a good politician any day!)
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To: Mastador1

When you replied to this comment:

“They should also pass price caps! Why not bring in utopia at full speed.”

You were replying to a comment that I had made. The other poster used my comment as a foundation for their own comments.

Then you called the comment naive, so yes you did “infer that I was ignorant.”

“Do you understand the concept of profitability?”

Yes, very much so.

“I paid my employees as well as I could sometimes to my detriment since I had to answer to the Owner/Operator.”

And here you prove my ACTUAL point. Your original post, that drew my sarcastic response, was implying that you were supportive of the California legislative action to increase minimum wage. Now, as you admit here, this will only harm the profitability for the owners of the business. So, in order to remain in business then the owner MUST increase prices or lay-off employees or both.

So, before the dictating of a wage by any state government, the owner and manager of a restaurant are free to pay a wage that they deem necessary to attract the appropriate labor for their market, and to let that cost flow through the pricing. If $10 an hour was not sustainable as a pass through cost to the customers while you were in the industry, then it is not sustainable today.

My point in the sarcastic reply to you was that your implication that the minimum wage increase would somehow allow for the restaurant to attract better employees is very disconnected from reality.


58 posted on 09/13/2013 12:07:25 PM PDT by CSM (Keeper of the Dave Ramsey Ping list. FReepmail me if you want your beeber stuned.)
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To: Mastador1

My comments remain unchanged to you. Technology causing “hell on fast food employment” is no different than steel smelters being hell on blacksmithing employment, or automobiles being hell on horse farming employment.

All of it is productivity improvement, which is a key indicator for leading economies world wide.


59 posted on 09/13/2013 12:09:45 PM PDT by CSM (Keeper of the Dave Ramsey Ping list. FReepmail me if you want your beeber stuned.)
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To: Travis T. OJustice
They don't give a crap about other people's money accept to spend it being re-elected.
It's the maroons who vote them into office who don't have a damn clue. 45% of voters.
60 posted on 09/13/2013 12:18:03 PM PDT by MaxMax (If you're not pissed off, you're not paying attention)
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