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Video captures Wisconsin police unlawfully detaining men open carrying ARs (VIDEO)
guns.com ^ | 12 September, 2013 | Jennifer Cruz

Posted on 09/13/2013 5:11:48 PM PDT by marktwain

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1 posted on 09/13/2013 5:11:49 PM PDT by marktwain
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We need to fight for our rights but I just don’t think this is the way. Too easy for something to go wrong or a cop to realize dead people don’t sue.


2 posted on 09/13/2013 5:23:34 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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Suing is the legally defined path to behavior modification.

The responses of the victims seem a bit “flip”. Need to lose that.


3 posted on 09/13/2013 5:25:37 PM PDT by School of Rational Thought
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it’s the only way to get cops and others desensitized to people legally carrying firearms. it has to be recorded because it catches cops knowing they are violating people’s rights.

these cops are going to need people on their side in the future.


4 posted on 09/13/2013 5:41:52 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: driftdiver; All

Restoring the Constitution will not be easy.

Armed people intrinsicly have a sense of independence, power and freedom.

We cannot get there by allowing police to deny us rights that are lawfully ours.

It does not take very many actions like this one to educate the police.

We have had to do it in Arizona, now we have a modicum of restoration of the right to keep and bear arms.

It can happen in the rest of the country.

It is happening. This is part of it.


5 posted on 09/13/2013 5:57:36 PM PDT by marktwain (The MSM must die for the Republic to live. Long live the new media!)
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How do you suggest we fight for our rights?

I really don’t consider it a fight if it doesn’t get at least a bit messy!!!


6 posted on 09/13/2013 6:05:01 PM PDT by T Wayne (If you know how many guns you have, you don't have enough!!!)
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People who are afraid to exercise their rights don’t have them.


7 posted on 09/13/2013 6:07:56 PM PDT by Standing Wolf (No tyrant should ever be allowed to die of natural causes.)
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Secretly Monitor Cop Stops With New ACLU App

http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2012/07/monitor-police-app/


8 posted on 09/13/2013 6:55:39 PM PDT by theBuckwheat
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It won’t take many events like this to get someone shot. In todays climate its more likely to result in laws to ban open carry than anything else.


9 posted on 09/13/2013 7:29:05 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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Well first we should start by insulting those who disagree with this tactic.


10 posted on 09/13/2013 7:29:31 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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“It won’t take many events like this to get someone shot. In todays climate its more likely to result in laws to ban open carry than anything else.”

You are welcome to your opinion.

I think the opposite will happen, just as it has happened with the open carry of pistols.

I am done backing up.

We have momentum. We need to keep moving forward.


11 posted on 09/13/2013 7:40:51 PM PDT by marktwain (The MSM must die for the Republic to live. Long live the new media!)
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“I am done backing up.”

So you imply I am a coward because I think this tactic is foolish. bite me


12 posted on 09/13/2013 7:57:46 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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“So you imply I am a coward because I think this tactic is foolish. bite me”

No need to put words in my mouth. I merely stated a personal policy.


13 posted on 09/13/2013 8:03:40 PM PDT by marktwain (The MSM must die for the Republic to live. Long live the new media!)
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Yes so you did. Full of implications and all.

Its foolish and will backfire and result in more anti-gun laws.


14 posted on 09/13/2013 8:06:08 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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Local conditions vary. I would not recommend this in Massachusetts, at least not at this time.

I believe it can work in Wisconsin and Texas, Arizona, a number of states. It has already worked well in Michigan.


15 posted on 09/13/2013 8:14:03 PM PDT by marktwain (The MSM must die for the Republic to live. Long live the new media!)
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Its foolish and will backfire and result in more anti-gun laws.

The way rights are denied is letting the government illegally harass citizens until they conform....if you don't stand up to them and use it you lose it. Two legislators in Colorado are without a job because they voted for more "Anti Gun Laws". And Colorado is a red state. Those officers should be disciplined and trained so they will not harass citizens in the future!!!

16 posted on 09/14/2013 6:59:46 AM PDT by ontap (***)
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“Those officers should be disciplined and trained so they will not harass citizens in the future!!! “

Since the city has already been successfully sued I doubt it will have the desired effect.

Perhaps I just have talked to too many officers here in Tampa who are looking for an excuse to shoot someone.


17 posted on 09/14/2013 7:15:30 AM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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18 posted on 09/14/2013 7:24:08 AM PDT by EternalVigilance
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Perhaps I just have talked to too many officers here in Tampa who are looking for an excuse to shoot someone....Then you, as a patriot (?) need to ensure those cops get fired. Any way you can. Cops are not a disease that kills you.


19 posted on 09/14/2013 7:24:51 AM PDT by Safetgiver ( Islam makes barbarism look genteel.)
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Perhaps I just have talked to too many officers here in Tampa who are looking for an excuse to shoot someone.

Really.....that's an entirely different and much larger problem. These so called peace officers need to be fired! It sure as hell isn't a good reason to surrender one's 2nd amendment rights.

20 posted on 09/14/2013 7:27:46 AM PDT by ontap (***)
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