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Pat Buchanan: People worldwide ‘are sick of hearing’ talk of American exceptionalism
dailycaller.com ^ | September 15, 2013

Posted on 09/15/2013 8:24:57 PM PDT by Tailgunner Joe

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To: dfwgator

Are those characters any worse, really, than Obama and Kerry who pretend to be world-class leaders/statesmen?


61 posted on 09/15/2013 9:36:51 PM PDT by EDINVA
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To: Frank_2001

I had a relative who was killed for telling old lame jokes.


62 posted on 09/15/2013 9:37:00 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious!)
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To: TexGrill
America was exceptional back when de Tocqueville said it was and it remained exceptional for about a century. The US is now just another over-regulated, overtaxed, oppressive welfare state with total surveillance and unlimited presidential authority thrown in for good measure. Its written Constitution has been rendered a dead letter and its laws are not evenly applied. America is no longer exceptional except in its ability to project military force and its squandered legacy of liberty.

For an American to insist that America is now exceptional in any other regard is really pretty pathetic. It reminds me of this:

Stuart Smalley

Stuart Smalley needs to get a grip, and so do many Americans.

The fact is that American politicians and the Americans who elected them have squandered America's philosophical, moral, and economic capital, and it started decades before the sharp decline of late. Things will not get better until Americans realize the mess they have made and resolve to fix it.

63 posted on 09/15/2013 9:38:52 PM PDT by Skepolitic
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To: noinfringers2

As a kid in school, I just thought american was america and a great place to live in....But with a catholic education, you were taught better than us public school kids...my husband went to St Thomas until the 10 grade and the nun’s asked him to leave, then he went to Aero-mechanics for 1 year and they asked him to leave. His senior year at Pershing High school was went I met him....he said the stuff they were teaching seniors he got in the 10th grade at St Thomas before he and 3 of his friends were asked nicely to leave....those nuns knew how to teach....


64 posted on 09/15/2013 9:39:08 PM PDT by goat granny
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To: Tailgunner Joe

Oh please.... its our constitution and the freedoms extended within that made America exceptional They could do it too, but have not


65 posted on 09/15/2013 9:39:41 PM PDT by chiller (NBCNews et al is in the tank and should be embarrassed)
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To: Viennacon

Demographics is destiny. And Pat was on the leading edge of this.


66 posted on 09/15/2013 9:41:40 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Viennacon

True. And that doesn’t take away from what pat is saying


67 posted on 09/15/2013 9:45:10 PM PDT by stanne
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To: Washi

Only an observation from a guy who has spent a fair amount of time in Europe. Up until around 2004...the exceptionalism deal was never an issue with the vast majority of Europeans. As the US election unfolded, American media folks fanned the globe and blasted Bush as much as they could. CNN, New York Times, Washington Post, and just about every single network news guy tossed out as much stuff as they could.

What they didn’t really realize...this anti-Bush stuff....turned into anti-American hostilities. By 2008, I’d say that seventy percent of European society had some minor or major element of dislike of US exceptionalism. So President Obama arrived on the scene, and they actually gave him a Noble Peace Prize....for nothing. If you think about this....a guy who was doing nothing....getting a prize...says something about their view of the mess.

Four years pass, and they now realize that President Obama is at the same level as President Bush. The exceptionalism problem is still sitting there in their view. The comical thing? The US news media that created this wave....can do nothing now to correct the mess. They are being challenged as they come into Europe and do their chats....finding hostile grounds in front of them.

Buchanan is right. The future? Until we have some President who pulls troops out of overseas and refuses to fight in anyone’s conflicts, and plays politics like “Silent Cal”, I think this negative issue will remain.


68 posted on 09/15/2013 9:47:13 PM PDT by pepsionice
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To: noinfringers2

All nations have their founding myths that may sound ridiculous, tiresome or offensive to outsiders, and are intended for domestic consumption. Such is the concept of ‘American exceptionalism’. It does refer, as stated above, among other things to our constitution, which was exceptional in the 18th century, but is no longer exceptional as others have developed their own based on ours or not, improved or not, so that ours can be said to be archaic in parts (certainly not those parts that Marxist Obama disdains and wants to improve but in the meantime ignores.)


69 posted on 09/15/2013 9:47:24 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious!)
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To: Revolting cat!

I read Post #6, and just couldn’t help myself!


70 posted on 09/15/2013 9:50:48 PM PDT by Frank_2001
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To: Viennacon
Pat didn't use the word "anymore" anywhere in his statement. He addressed, negatively, statements regarding our exceptionalism going back to Albright.

He doesn't believe in American exceptionalism and never has. What's worse, he's wringing his hands about what the rest of the world thinks of us ("people worldwide are sick of hearing..."

...how leftist is that?

Our current administration sucks. That doesn't mean America sucks.

71 posted on 09/15/2013 9:51:06 PM PDT by Washi (She was Hannah Montana when Bush was president. Thanks a lot Barack Obama! :))
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To: goat granny

I and my brother went to a German Lutheran grade school. There are many private schools associated with or sponsored by different religious affiliations. Our grade school was very pro USA including the ladies organization that sponsored many events particularly sauerkraut lunches. When WWII was breaking and actually broke I never sensed any qualms about fighting Japan and Germany.


72 posted on 09/15/2013 9:54:19 PM PDT by noinfringers2
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To: Colonel Kangaroo

I don’t know about you but, if I had an acquaintance who was always spouting “I’m exceptional”, I would not hold him in high regard. If the statement were true in some regard, I’d consider that person vain and obnoxious. If it were untrue, or if he insisted that he was exceptional because he was God’s chosen vessel, I’d consider that person delusional. And if he said that his exceptional status justified actions that I thought were immoral or unethical, I consider him reprobate.

If he were truly exceptional, he wouldn’t have to say it. It would be plain to see.


73 posted on 09/15/2013 9:56:05 PM PDT by Skepolitic
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To: Revolting cat!

I believe our Constitution is still an exceptional document and intended guide and authority for the USA today. Though some believe it is passe, I believe that all actions of government can be fitted by It if people really want such. I don’t believe Obama really wants such by expressed thoughts and demonstated intent.


74 posted on 09/15/2013 10:05:17 PM PDT by noinfringers2
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To: Tailgunner Joe

One other thing is that no other country airs out their dirty laundry like the US does....There are big problems in every country, but nobody pays attention to those....But everybody knows all of our flaws.


75 posted on 09/15/2013 10:09:33 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Skepolitic

Since Bill Clinton, the attitude of the Washington elite both domestically and internationally has been arrogant and overbearing. There’s a middle ground between this arrogance and the old leftist blame America first, blame only America thinking.


76 posted on 09/15/2013 10:12:35 PM PDT by Colonel Kangaroo
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To: noinfringers2
Sorry I just assumed you went to a catholic school, You never hear too much about Lutheran schools, although I went to a Lutheran church for several years and was baptized in it and confirmed. I was not raised in a religious home, just wandered around as a kid. My girlfriend and I started going to Truth Lutheran at the same time...turned Catholic when I married a polish catholic man..they rebaptised me and when I ask them why, the priest said to make sure you were baptised in the name of the Father,Son, Holy Ghost..I guess they just wanted to be sure, I was sure as I remembered it, but thats OK with me...I found much to love in the catholic church, but left after about 10 years.
77 posted on 09/15/2013 10:16:12 PM PDT by goat granny
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To: Slump Tester

I am really not very surprised that Pat Buchanan does not believe in the doctrine of American Exceptionalism. And I do not intend that observation as a dig at Buchanan; his variety of conservatism is simply different from my own. (In fact, Buchanan’s views are really much closer to the libertarianism of Ron Paul and his son, Rand Paul, than they are to a more traditional conservatism.)


78 posted on 09/15/2013 10:16:54 PM PDT by AmericanExceptionalist (Democrats believe in discussing the full spectrum of ideas, all the way from far left to center-left)
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To: Skepolitic

I agree with your post. You can’t demand respect you must earn it. There was a time when we could respect being Americans. Now with Obomba in the White House and the likelihood of having more Democrats including Hildabeast and Jeb Bush in the White House for another 16 years, why can’t we just call a spade a spade.


79 posted on 09/15/2013 10:18:15 PM PDT by TexGrill (Don't mess with Texas)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

Okay, so we’re not exceptional nor indespensible.

Then GFY’s.

Stop coming to our country and we should stop coming the aid of theirs.

Your countries are so great, fix your own problems.

Next tsunami I’ll watch on the TV and won’t send a dime.

In fact, I’ll start a counter marathon so we don’t send aid to any country that isn’t our absolute friend. Guess only Britain and Israel can be counted on.

Get us the Eff out of the UN! They don’t need our money, food or support.

Let the world go to hell and sort their own problems out.


80 posted on 09/15/2013 11:35:26 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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