HOW HOUSE CAN DEFUND OBAMACARE

Human Events ^ | Sept 16, 2013 | By: Dan Holler

[HiTech RedNeck]

I almost wonder if it is worth letting it just blow up in America’s face in all its wonderful inglory. If there is a God (or people acknowledge Him again, rather) the Democrat brand name should be Mud for a century, for what they wished on this place.

[rrrod]

Make your calls emails folks. Stand with Cruz/Lee/Graves.
Now is not the time to sit idle!

[Neidermeyer]

I don’t see how a small band of patriots can get this turned around... The rino cockroaches that live in D.C. are oblivious ,, they are running the clock out... and I have to believe that even if we get the rider we want it will somehow be lost through a printing accident or some other procedural trick to make it ineligible.

This is starting to look like the beginnings of “We the Living” where they thought their lives were in tatters stepping off the train in Petrograd and had absolutely no clue how bad it would be a few years down the road. I myself have “tea party” on my voter registration which means I will be ineligible for any gov’t job or benefit and will not even qualify for antibiotics at the local hospital.

[PATRIOT1876]

DEFUND! DEFUND! DEFUND!

[cynwoody]

Kudlow, with smug, arrogant certainty, says that OC cannot be defunded thru a continuing res.

Kudlow is wrong. Cruz is right.

Congress can't make a law that says Congress can't make a law. To do that requires amending the Constitution.

So, even though the CR is only supposed to be about discretionary spending, the Congress can still attach a rider expressly banning both discretionary and mandatory spending on ObamaCare. "Mandatory" is only a law, and laws can be changed. Actually, they could attach a rider repealing the whole damn thing outright!

Of course, in order for such as this to work, it has to get through the Senate, and Zero has to sign it. We know that's not going to happen. So then the government gets "shut down".

What happens next? Do Obama and the Senate get blamed for the shutdown? Or does the MSM manage swing public opinion towards blaming the Republicans for causing a shutdown in order to get rid of an overwhelmingly unpopular law?

What's the resolution? Obama caves? The GOP caves? Or more likely, a compromise: delay implementation a year or two, this time legally, since it's via legislation, not executive whim.

[taxcontrol]

I would say that the first step would be to vote in politicians with the will to do it and vote out politicians who do not have the will to do it.

But I think we are of like mind.

[peggy48]

I have samaritanministries.org. It is not insurance. Christians paying each others medical bills and it is exempt from obamacare. I had kaiser at work and besides the costs of what I was paying, I do not want to pay for a womens abortion.
I PAY $165.00 a month. They send me the persons name and address and I put a check in a card and send it that person. I had to go to hospital. I thought my appendix burst. It turned out to be kidney stones. Told the hospital I did not have insurance and was paying cash.
The bill was $7000.00 and they took $3000.00 off because I am a cash payer. I turned in all the bills to samaritan ministries and they gave me a list of people's names that I would soon be receiving money from. I was ti check off each name as I received the money. It was a blessing as the cards with the money enclosed came from all over the united states.
The cards were from people in samaritan ministries and they wrote they were praying for me. Check out their website

[SpeakerToAnimals]

So then the government gets "shut down". What happens next?

I think that is the reason they do not want a shutdown. After a few weeks, when NOTHING changes, most working folks might decide we don't need so much federal government. Shutting down fedgov would show just how useless and wasteful fedzilla is. Most of it could cease to exist without anybody noticing.

[SpeakerToAnimals]

That story is so American it hurts. That is how we did it for the first 150 years or so. Thanks for the nice story.

[Sherman Hale]

Regulating healthcare is not an enumerated power granted to Congress in Article I Section VIII of the U.S. Constitution. It is therefore unconstitutional on the federal level as it is a power reserved to the states or to the people per the 10th Amendment.

Any action taken by the federal government, on healthcare, including defunding will also be unconstitutional. That fact aside, relying on the very branch to relinquish the power they usurped from the people is tantamount to expecting a thief to return property he stole from you. It will never happen. The people must take back that which was usurped from them by nullifying the unconstitutional act. See www.nullifynow.com for more information.

[Jane Long]

Thanks for posting that. Looking forward to researching.

[HiTech RedNeck]

Well for me... there’s a world out there that needs the gospel and all the political tomfoolery is but one symptom of it. I will share and preach the gospel by whatever means the good Lord lends to me. And if that gets a grip everything else will begin to come into place because there is an omnipotent Lord in charge here.

We got fat and happy with a “moral,” “Christianized” society and dropped the radical gospel power right on the floor. God had to let the former, “a form of religion but denying its power,” fail good and hard. Because God wants us to wake up to something better.

If you preach a gospel even remotely approaching that as powerful as what the 1st century had, people who have never seen that before are going to think you are full of yourself, because you will be so bold and full of God’s glory and full of faith. And it will be radical and there will be clear signs that God is blessing, and sin will wilt as people are radically saved.

[peggy48]

Your welcome. I am happy with it.

[Sun]

We need to contact our congresscritters, especially if they are Republicans (as too many of them are weenies). Time is running out.

[Extremely Extreme Extremist]

So basically, we are relying on an establishment of Democrats and Republicans who are exempt from Obamacare.

That's why I'm not relying on the Stupid Party. Don't participate in this. Don't pay the fine, don't sign up for the exchanges. Save your money, put it on a prepaid card, and get treated overseas. There are clinics in Hungary, Costa Rica, and Iceland, for example that have excellent facilities.

[Cheerio]

Save your money, put it on a prepaid card, and get treated overseas. There are clinics in Hungary, Costa Rica, and Iceland, for example that have excellent facilities.

AND you don't think our little buy king WON'T write an EO banning passports for going overseas for medical purposes?