did they stop issuing these?
did they stop issuing these?
Hey Sten, That requires much more training and physical exertion than we want to put out nowadays!
Besides, after Rodney took a lickin and got his mug on tape, most cop shops thought they should retire the venerable night stick.
Now its all tasers, phazers, pepper spray, and all the silly frilly things that really don’t work when you need them to.
A guy trained with a good stick, who knows where the “funny bone” meets the brain, can do wonders.
And the good news is, no one gets killed.
A good smart smack on the back of the elbow does the trick every time its tried. Watch the biggest guy in the world take a knee. Even a cranked up meth head gets that signal to the brain, loud and clear.
Sten,
Actually,yes they did ban the nightstick in somejurisdictions ;and took away the big long heavy flashlights as well.There were several lawsuits brought as a result of people dying when the PR24 was used in a chokehold.Many officers were glad to see it go since it was akin to a sword in that one had always to position it out of the way before sitting and was awkward entering/exiting the car.
So the officer is left with choice of poorly trained barehanded combat,taser, or gun.
The less confident the officer the more likely to just shoot.And police usually fire many more shots than the typical citizen in a self-defense incident.In my patrol days the service revolver held SIX .357 rounds and I seem to remember most shootings left the officer’s gun with 2 or 3 rounds unfired and the perp down. Now the officer often has two to three times as many rounds ,which MAY be needed for confrontations with armed groups.But it is still questionable tactics to expend all your ammo unless necessary.
The dead man can not tell his side ;we have no knowledge if he suffered brain trauma in the accident.10 hits indicates a panicky or vicious shooter.I doubt a panic-striken person could make 10 hits of 12 shots fired.
There have been diabetics and others violent and disoriented through no fault of their own ,who have been denied proper treatment or even killed because the responding officer never considered medical causes.
Officers being human WILL make mistakes;when those mistakes cause great harm they must answer to society and the victims of the mistakes(or SHOULD). And if the mistake is shown to be a deliberate ,willful act then the officer should be punished as severely as any citizen.
Yes. Those are old school now, and even the ASP expandable baton is coming off the belt. The taser was deployed and did not effect the decedant or missed. The next level of force is deadly.
It’s tragic that this guy got killed but I remind everyone that if you were on trial you would want a complete investigation, full discovery and for the case to be viewed in the totality of the circumstances.
Something that the media is not going to provide.