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Cruz says he would filibuster to defund Obamacare
The Daily Caller ^ | 9-19-2013 | Alexis Levinson

Posted on 09/19/2013 10:57:09 AM PDT by servo1969

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To: zerosix

"How about 46 out of 46 votes to defund!"

And put some Dems on the hot seat, like that leftist gun-grabber Joe Manchin and the rest of the phony "moderates"...

61 posted on 09/19/2013 7:04:24 PM PDT by Qbert ("The best defense against usurpatory government is an assertive citizenry" - William F. Buckley, Jr.)
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To: Qbert
Yeah, what I want to see in the House is whether Joe Sestak votes to defund Obamacare as he claimed that Obama promised that it would NOT include provisions for public funding of abortions.

Wrong, Joe, it does include mandatory public funding of abortions!

Where's your prolife principles now????

You and Obama lied, babies died!!!

62 posted on 09/19/2013 7:45:24 PM PDT by zerosix (Native Sunflower)
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To: servo1969

On the Five I heard and seemed to catch it in other places that even if the Republicans in the House vote to defund, the President will veto this.

And the Democrats will heavily villify the Republicans for trying to defund this. We will see.

Cruz and others who are trying to stop this have my support 100%.


63 posted on 09/19/2013 8:44:46 PM PDT by BeadCounter (Really? Syria?)
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To: chessplayer

Cruz is a Baptist or in more general terms, a Christian, no, I don’t think he is going to be dishonest.


64 posted on 09/19/2013 8:45:42 PM PDT by BeadCounter (Really? Syria?)
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To: spokeshave

LOL!


65 posted on 09/20/2013 12:40:21 AM PDT by RedMDer (http://www.dontfundobamacare.com/)
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To: Mr. K
from wiki

The rules permit a senator, or a series of senators, to speak for as long as they wish and on any topic they choose, unless "three-fifths of the Senators duly chosen and sworn"[1] (usually 60 out of 100 senators) brings debate to a close by invoking cloture under Senate Rule XXII.

So Cruz can hand off to Lee who can hand off to Paul, etc. It will be fun.

66 posted on 09/20/2013 1:36:19 AM PDT by jpsb (Believe nothing until it has been officially denied)
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To: jpsb

Idon’ really know what I’m talking about, but I assume that once Cruz has the floor he can talk as long as he wishes. That is I don’t think he can be interrupted for a cloture vote, however if he requests to yield to another senator, perhaps at that time a cloture vote can be taken? I say this because I doubt that there will be many people in the room when he is well into his filibuster, but at any time if you have 3/5 of democrats in the room, a cloture could stop the filibuster.


67 posted on 09/20/2013 3:05:04 AM PDT by nikos1121 (“To err is human; to forgive, divine.” Alexander Pope (1688-1744) English poet)
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To: Qbert

Just looked this up. STrom Thurmond filibustered alone for 24 hrs and 18 min in opposition to the civil rights act.

IT’s interesting that Sen. William Proxmire of Wisconsin spoke for 16 hours and 12 minutes to stall debate on an increase of the public debt ceiling in 1981.

Proxmire was concerned about the nation’s rising debt level. The bill he wanted to stall action on authorizing a total debt of $1 trillion.

Proxmire held forth from 11 a.m. on Sept. 28 through 10:26 a.m. the following day. And though his fiery speech earned him widespread attention, his marathon filibuster came back to haunt him.

His detractors in the Senate pointed out taxpayers were paying tens of thousands of dollars to keep the chamber open all night for his speech.

You apparently need 60 votes to end a filibuster. The speaker must speak the entire time, and cannot sit down. I don’t know if he can yield to someone else. I would think that he cannot.


68 posted on 09/20/2013 3:19:28 AM PDT by nikos1121 (“To err is human; to forgive, divine.” Alexander Pope (1688-1744) English poet)
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To: nikos1121

I don’t know. I think once a Senator takes the floor he does not have to yield it.


69 posted on 09/20/2013 3:22:18 AM PDT by jpsb (Believe nothing until it has been officially denied)
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To: jpsb

I think the question we have is, once he has the floor can he pass it to someone else. I think the answer is that he risks the speaker saying “no”....

The filibuster can be stopped with 2/3 majority vote.


70 posted on 09/20/2013 3:26:15 AM PDT by nikos1121 (“To err is human; to forgive, divine.” Alexander Pope (1688-1744) English poet)
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To: nikos1121
" I would think that he cannot.

I watched Rand Paul's filibuster, Cruz and Rubio were trying to help, I am certain if Paul could have yielded the floor to either he would have, so I think you are right, sadly. Wiki must be either wrong or harry changed the rules.

71 posted on 09/20/2013 3:28:17 AM PDT by jpsb (Believe nothing until it has been officially denied)
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To: jpsb

I was watching McCain speak a few years ago. That idiot Freshman Senator from Minnesota, who’s name escapes me (Thank Goodness), was presiding over the Senate that day.

I think actually it was Lieberman who was speaking at the time, McCain spoke later in criticism.

Anyway, Lieberman asked, “Mr. President, can I have an additional 2 minutes to finish what I’d like to say?”

The idiot said, “no”....

So I am quite sure if Paul had said, “Mr. President I would like to yield to Senator Cruz.” Reid of whoever presiding would simply say, “no.”


72 posted on 09/20/2013 3:42:42 AM PDT by nikos1121 (“To err is human; to forgive, divine.” Alexander Pope (1688-1744) English poet)
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To: nikos1121

It was Al Franken(stein) MN-DemRAT buffoon, who did not give the extra 2 minutes to Lieberman. McCain chastised Franken for that, but demoRATs just laugh off any criticism of their outrageous behavior.


73 posted on 09/20/2013 6:40:33 AM PDT by rcrngroup
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To: AngieGal

that’s non-stop talking too

At REAL talking speeds, with commentary when you come to a particlarly stupid passage, you could easily double or triple that time

I could see them spending a month reading it, easily


74 posted on 09/20/2013 7:49:59 AM PDT by Mr. K (Lies, Damned Lies, Statistics, and then Democrat Talking Points.)
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To: Westbrook

I agree.

When is someone in power going to start saying out loud “Obama is a LIAR and doing all this on purpose”? There is plenty of evidence to back it up.


75 posted on 09/20/2013 8:10:02 AM PDT by my small voice (A biased media and an uneducated populace is the biggest threat to our nation.)
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To: rcrngroup

Yes...you’re right. My point being that if Cruz starts a Filibuster, and yields to someone else, Reid or the democrat over seeing the session can simply say “no.” The filibuster therefore must be done himself, I guess unless the only people in the room are republicans.

For example, what happens if let’s say the session has not adjourned and it’s 4 AM, and we have only the president overseeing it...probably Al Franken for all I know...and there’s like 20 republicans in the room and no democrats, then if Cruz yields how can they stop that?


76 posted on 09/20/2013 8:28:17 AM PDT by nikos1121 (“To err is human; to forgive, divine.” Alexander Pope (1688-1744) English poet)
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To: Mr. K

Every last word, then read it is Spanish for our future denizens. That should take a while.


77 posted on 09/20/2013 8:46:20 AM PDT by Resolute Conservative
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To: Jane Long
" EXACTLY!! They could go on and on...people will get to hear what's IN the POS Bill, now that they've passed the POS bill. "

That's exactly what the Dems and Nancy Pelosi does not want, they don't want " THE PEOPLE " to know what in there, in the POS bill.
78 posted on 09/20/2013 8:51:20 AM PDT by American Constitutionalist
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To: servo1969

I understand the confused New Yorker, Peter King, issued a scurrilous attack on Senator Cruz Friday.


79 posted on 09/20/2013 12:11:03 PM PDT by Theodore R. (The grand pooh-bahs have spoken: "It's Jebbie's turn!")
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To: Theodore R.
Run Ted Run!!!!!!!
80 posted on 09/20/2013 12:26:00 PM PDT by nikos1121 (“To err is human; to forgive, divine.” Alexander Pope (1688-1744) English poet)
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