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House Republicans pass test vote to defund Obamacare; shutdown edges closer
The Washington Times ^ | 20 Sep 2013 | CONNECT: Facebook Twitter RSS HOMENEWSPOLITICSRADIOLOG INE-MAIL ALERTSSUBSCRIBECLASSIFIEDSE-EDITION

Posted on 09/20/2013 8:31:43 AM PDT by mandaladon

House Republicans survived a key test vote Thursday on their plan to keep the government running while trying to halt the health care law, defying a veto threat from President Obama and inching closer to a shutdown showdown with Senate Democrats. Top Republicans say their party’s strategy is unlikely to succeed and not worth shutting down the government, but some rank-and-file lawmakers said they have to draw a line now and use the leverage of the spending bill to end the president’s signature achievement.

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Let's do it!!!!!!!!
1 posted on 09/20/2013 8:31:43 AM PDT by mandaladon
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To: mandaladon

Doesn’t matter....It has to go through the DEM Senate and the president would sure never sign it. He’s just laughing his butt off.


2 posted on 09/20/2013 8:32:41 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: mandaladon

Surgically remove this cancer!


3 posted on 09/20/2013 8:32:54 AM PDT by PATRIOT1876
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To: Sacajaweau

When we take the senate next year, what’s to stop us then?


4 posted on 09/20/2013 8:33:03 AM PDT by FreedomStar3028 (Evil must be punished.)
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To: mandaladon

Since when has hussein ever needed congress?


5 posted on 09/20/2013 8:33:35 AM PDT by bgill (This reply was mined before it was posted.)
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To: mandaladon
If the House passes its bill Friday, it shifts the debate to the Senate, where Mr. Boehner says it will be up to a vocal group of Republican senators to rally the votes...........Time to start putting the heat on those spineless RINOs.
6 posted on 09/20/2013 8:34:09 AM PDT by mandaladon (The truth about Benghazi is all I want)
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To: mandaladon
YES!!!!
7 posted on 09/20/2013 8:34:48 AM PDT by fella ("As it was before Noah, so shall it be again,")
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To: lonevoice

woohoo!!! The first step is a success!! Now we need to work even harder to make sure that the Senate does the right thing.


8 posted on 09/20/2013 8:35:55 AM PDT by Pride in the USA
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To: FreedomStar3028

Take the Senate and the Presidency and you have something.


9 posted on 09/20/2013 8:36:18 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: FreedomStar3028
When we take the senate next year, what’s to stop us then?

What's to stop us now? The House never has to fund Obamacare. Sure, they'll be fighting and perhaps a government shutdown, so what?

If dems want to talk that talk, I say make them walk the walk.

10 posted on 09/20/2013 8:36:29 AM PDT by KittenClaws ( You may have to fight a battle more than once in order to win it." - Margaret Thatcher)
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To: Pride in the USA
You really think the DEM Senate is going to do the right thing? And then Obama is going to sign off??

Got this bridge...

11 posted on 09/20/2013 8:37:34 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: Sacajaweau
Others have faced impossible odds:

“If ye love wealth better than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, go home from us in peace. We ask not your counsels or arms. Crouch down and lick the hands which feed you. May your chains set lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that ye were our countrymen.” ― Samuel Adams

12 posted on 09/20/2013 8:37:49 AM PDT by oldbrowser (We have a rogue government in Washington)
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To: mandaladon
". . Top Republicans say their party’s strategy is unlikely to succeed and not worth shutting down the government,. ."

Whoever the fools were that said that need to be voted out. Weenies.

13 posted on 09/20/2013 8:38:01 AM PDT by KittenClaws ( You may have to fight a battle more than once in order to win it." - Margaret Thatcher)
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To: Sacajaweau

All these RAT clowns will be on record, as well as the RINOS.


14 posted on 09/20/2013 8:38:34 AM PDT by Cheerio (Barry Hussein Soetoro-0bama=The Complete Destruction of American Capitalism)
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To: FreedomStar3028

A veto. We will never get enough override votes.


15 posted on 09/20/2013 8:38:35 AM PDT by Resolute Conservative
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To: mandaladon

Senator Ted Cruz goes out on safari, hunting the Senate Republicans hiding in the tall grass...


16 posted on 09/20/2013 8:38:42 AM PDT by COBOL2Java (I'm a Christian, pro-life, pro-gun, Reaganite. The GOP hates me. Why should I vote for them?)
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To: Pride in the USA

Well, we passed a budget, if they want to shut the government down, the it’s up to them.


17 posted on 09/20/2013 8:39:14 AM PDT by Fido969
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To: Sacajaweau

Karl ... Karl Rove ... is that you?

With respect, exactly where will you draw the line at stopping this monstrosity?

Let Obama and the Democrats be responsible for shutting down the government, so we can finally have the discussion about runaway government growth that we’ve needed to have in this country.


18 posted on 09/20/2013 8:39:48 AM PDT by Colonel_Flagg (My PV2 is my hero.)
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To: mandaladon

Excellent! Now adjourn and go home. Ball’s on Harry’s court now.


19 posted on 09/20/2013 8:40:13 AM PDT by Tanniker Smith (Rome didn't fall in a day, either.)
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To: mandaladon

Hasn’t this happened before? Sure hope we can rid the country of this cancer called Obamacare.


20 posted on 09/20/2013 8:40:40 AM PDT by teletech (Say NO to RINOS!)
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To: KittenClaws
If dems want to talk that talk, I say make them walk the walk.

If it comes to the government actually shutting down, the talk from the libs will sound something akin to what and abusive parent says after they have smacked their kid around, "See, look what you made me do, this is all your fault!".

And the media will be there like an enabling spouse saying to the repub kids, "You shouldn't make him mad, your behavior caused this."

21 posted on 09/20/2013 8:41:15 AM PDT by Turbo Pig (...to close with and destroy the enemy...)
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To: Sacajaweau

Doesn’t matter....It has to go through the DEM Senate and the president would sure never sign it. He’s just laughing his butt off.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Maybe So. But it pisses Obama off more than anything. Remember his reaction to the Navy Yard Shooting? It was a tragedy and all that, but then he went on to blast Repubs for focsing on defunding Obama Care.

This is a huge victory. But... the battle is not over.


22 posted on 09/20/2013 8:41:24 AM PDT by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This Means Liberals and (L)libertarians! Same Thing. NO LIBS!!)
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To: teletech

No, it has not been defunded by the House.

The House stripped all Obamacare funding.


23 posted on 09/20/2013 8:42:42 AM PDT by ConservativeMan55
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To: Sacajaweau

The farther they can go in putting Dems or squishy RINO’s on record against the defunding, and the greater the awareness they can raise about the GOP versus Democrat positioning on the issue, the better for 2014 and 2016. (As long as they don’t go nominating another Romneycare candidate—yes, they are still undoing the damage caused by Mitt.)


24 posted on 09/20/2013 8:42:49 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: Sacajaweau

Because it is highly unpopular and there are some dems who would like to be re-elected next year, I suspect it will get some surprisingly good dem support, as long as it is not enough to actually pass it.

But I suspect our government will be shut down this time. I’m kinda excited about it, actually. But I fear I’m excited in the same way those southern gentlemen in the early scenes of Gone With the Wind were excited about kicking some yankee butt. :-(


25 posted on 09/20/2013 8:43:08 AM PDT by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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To: mandaladon

This was a gutsy and righteous move. The press will pile on them, but the people will thank them soon enough for having the foresight to stop this train wreck.


26 posted on 09/20/2013 8:43:24 AM PDT by elhombrelibre (Liberal women now play the vagina card to win their arguments.)
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27 posted on 09/20/2013 8:43:54 AM PDT by RedMDer (http://www.dontfundobamacare.com/)
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To: Sacajaweau

That’s not the point. The rudderless GOP has to establish some principles upon which to get some credibility. No GOP congressmen or senators voted to pass Obamacare. It was a totally partisan disgrace that was crapped upon all of us.

I don’t care if the effort fails. We can’t change the future if we can’t fight now! Cruz and Lee are right! Fight and don’t stop fighting!


28 posted on 09/20/2013 8:44:08 AM PDT by untwist (One Bad-Assed Mistake, America!)
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To: Sacajaweau

“Doesn’t matter....It has to go through the DEM Senate and the president would sure never sign it. He’s just laughing his butt off.”

With no funding, though, doesn’t that make the Affordable Care Act moot?

It’s not clear to me what will happen next. Will Republicans present a new health care insurance plan? Will we revert to totally private health care insurance in the mean time?


29 posted on 09/20/2013 8:44:23 AM PDT by July4
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To: mandaladon

Actually, it WILL work, because some D senator has to decide whether he or she is going to impale himself on this or support a guy willing to through anyone and everyone under the bus (except Assad and Putin) to achieve his ends.

If they vote to cut funding, and still let the government run, the Senate can vote their conscience, keep the government running, and then say into the microphone afterward, “A moment of pause to get Obamacare right isn’t a bad thing.”

The House did its job. The asshat from Kentucky now better do his - deliver every Republican and peel off vulnerable D’s. This isn’t hard.

You send the thing to Obama’s desk, and when he vetoes it, both sides can say Obama shut the government down, not the Congress.

If it hasn’t occurred to D’s yet in Congress, Obama sees it as a bipartisan ‘FU, here’s to me’ arrangement.

It’ll work - you just need the testicular fortitude to do it.

And the senator from Kentucky needs to know that if he let’s this through, it will be forever known as “McConnellCare”


30 posted on 09/20/2013 8:44:40 AM PDT by RinaseaofDs
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To: Cheerio

Get the Senate RINOS on record! Mitch McConnell is crapping his diaper right now.


31 posted on 09/20/2013 8:44:49 AM PDT by jimbo123
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To: teletech

Hasn’t this happened before?


Yes. But that was when folks like Graham and McCain had power and there really were no Cruz’s.


32 posted on 09/20/2013 8:45:09 AM PDT by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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To: Sacajaweau

Give up. Roll over. Accept your fate, serfs.


33 posted on 09/20/2013 8:45:17 AM PDT by WhistlingPastTheGraveyard (If you don't stand up, you don't stand a chance.)
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To: Turbo Pig
If it comes to the government actually shutting down, the talk from the libs will sound something akin to what and abusive parent says after they have smacked their kid around, “See, look what you made me do, this is all your fault!”.

And the media will be there like an enabling spouse saying to the repub kids, “You shouldn't make him mad, your behavior caused this.”


I have no doubt that that is what they'll say.

Again. So what? Until they shut down the government, its all just threats and talk. Threats that the wussies in the House seem to succumb to every time.

34 posted on 09/20/2013 8:45:23 AM PDT by KittenClaws ( You may have to fight a battle more than once in order to win it." - Margaret Thatcher)
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To: ConservativeMan55
No, it has not been defunded by the House.

The House stripped all Obamacare funding.,p>Will the Senate strip the House "defund language" from the bill? Hope not but I won't hold my breath.

35 posted on 09/20/2013 8:45:25 AM PDT by teletech (Say NO to RINOS!)
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To: July4

DE-funding is not the same as funding.


36 posted on 09/20/2013 8:45:49 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: mandaladon

Wimmins an’ chillin dying in da streets ‘cuz of dis.......


37 posted on 09/20/2013 8:46:25 AM PDT by SkyDancer (Live your life in such a way that the Westboro church will want to picket your funeral)
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To: Sacajaweau
Mark Davis .... heard him this morning regarding his article and I think he makes some good points:

Our Moment Has Arrived: All Hands On Deck to Slay Obamacare

They may lose this battle, but I am just glad to see SOMEBODY with the courage to fight back. The country is starting to pay more attention and grassroots is mobilizing. If you surrender before the fight, you lose every time. After the Syria debacle, where the public resoundingly said 'no' and Congress was listening, nothing is impossible. Look at how the country was founded ... whoever would have thought those patriotic 'rebels' would win? We've lost this spirit that made us such a great country .... time to get it back.

38 posted on 09/20/2013 8:46:32 AM PDT by MissMagnolia (You see, truth always resides wherever brave men still have ammunition. I pick truth. (John Ransom))
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To: Turbo Pig

The folks at work were talking about this, blaming the republicans. I told them that what has just happened is the republicans have passed a budget, defunding a plan that is very unpopular. Now the senate will show where they stand and decide if they want to shut down the government over funding of a plan most people don’t want.

And if they side with the house, the president gets to do the same.

They tried to argue, but I continued to lay it out in simple terms.

The house is doing the will of the people. We will see if the senate and president follow suit.


39 posted on 09/20/2013 8:47:53 AM PDT by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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To: FreedomStar3028
When we take the senate next year

THIS MUST BECOME A PRIORITY!!
40 posted on 09/20/2013 8:49:02 AM PDT by Eagle of Liberty (Be the Enemy Within the Enemy Within...)
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To: mandaladon

41 posted on 09/20/2013 8:49:53 AM PDT by jimbo123
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To: Sacajaweau

We all know that already. It is a matter of a test of resolve and commitment by Republican functionaries in the House and Senate as to whether they are willing to listen to the prevailing attitude of the constituents out here in the rest of the country instead of some ass-locked media ghoul corrupting RINOs on their weekly Sunday shows.


42 posted on 09/20/2013 8:50:35 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: teletech

Has Obama EVER passed a regular, old, annual budget or is that just silly to ask?


43 posted on 09/20/2013 8:51:27 AM PDT by JerseyDvl (Cogito Ergo Doleo Soetoro, ABO and of course FUBO!)
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To: Sacajaweau

If I understand correctly, this is a continuing resolution to fund the government. Funding has to originate in the House; it’s either this or nothing. Without a bill to fund the government there is no funding for the government. IOW, if Obama doesn’t sign it the government shuts down. Everything. No pay checks for the Usurper-in-Chief.

Somebody tell me if I’m misunderstanding.


44 posted on 09/20/2013 8:51:37 AM PDT by butterdezillion (,)
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To: Responsibility2nd
Remember his reaction to the Navy Yard Shooting? It was a tragedy and all that,

That speech that he gave after the shooting was nothing short of despicable!!!
45 posted on 09/20/2013 8:51:37 AM PDT by Eagle of Liberty (Be the Enemy Within the Enemy Within...)
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To: RedMDer

WOW! The phone lines of both my senators are busy...busy...busy...

;-)


46 posted on 09/20/2013 8:52:04 AM PDT by SumProVita (Cogito, ergo....Sum Pro Vita - Modified Descartes)
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To: Eagle of Liberty
When we take the senate next year

The RNC, McConnell and "our" media has been borderline silent on the New Jersey Race, that needs to be a must-win, but with the likes of Mitch, I don't see them going full throttle to make it one more in their column...

47 posted on 09/20/2013 8:55:00 AM PDT by taildragger (The E-GOP won't know what hit them, The Party of Reagan is almost here, hang tight folks....)
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To: Eagle of Liberty

That speech that he gave after the shooting was nothing short of despicable!!!

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

It certainly was. Obama is a bitter whiny bitch.


48 posted on 09/20/2013 8:55:50 AM PDT by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This Means Liberals and (L)libertarians! Same Thing. NO LIBS!!)
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To: Eagle of Liberty

Begin the phone calls to Harry Reid’s office!


49 posted on 09/20/2013 8:56:09 AM PDT by Eagle of Liberty (Be the Enemy Within the Enemy Within...)
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To: cuban leaf

They’ve bought into the LSM talking points? Or have they always been obots?


50 posted on 09/20/2013 8:56:30 AM PDT by Heart of Georgia
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