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Kenyan Mall Massacre Off duty SAS soldier with handgun saves 100 lives
Mail Online ^ | 9/23/13 | David Bentley, David Williams

Posted on 09/23/2013 6:03:51 PM PDT by exbrit

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: alqaedakenya; banglist; guncontrol; hostages; kenya; sas; secondamendment; uk
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To: vpintheak
Right on.

God bless him.

21 posted on 09/23/2013 8:06:19 PM PDT by Trailerpark Badass (There should be a whole lot more going on than throwing bleach, said one woman.)
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To: Texas Fossil

Ironically, the SAS was founded by a Scot.


22 posted on 09/23/2013 8:12:36 PM PDT by the scotsman (i)
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To: the scotsman

My father served in Germany, Belgium & Checz during WWII.

He never talked much about his time in Europe when I was young. He does more now. He always told me that the English were funny, but that “Tommy would fight”. He had great respect for the English soldiers he knew.

My father knew some good soldiers.

Dad’s best friend growing up became a paratrooper. He jumped behind the lines during the Normandy invasion, jumped into Holland and was trucked into The Bulge.

I got to know his friend well when I was in College. He and his wife were finishing their education (both teachers in AK) and my wife and I liked them a lot. We bought their home when his widow moved to a care home. Their daughter and her husband still come through here occassionally, super nice people. He was a pilot, flew everything. (well)


23 posted on 09/23/2013 8:19:56 PM PDT by Texas Fossil
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To: the scotsman

Some how I am not surprised.

My ancestors claimed Scot/Irish ancestry. I have no paper trail for that, but the traits are still visible in the family.

Some of my ancestors migrated from SC, GA, AL, TX. The Carolina’s were the gateway that many of the Scots used as they moved West. They never seemed to like civilization too much. I was told that spartan living was a trait they acquired by being burned out by the English so often. They did not build lasting structures because they figured they would have to rebuild them anyway.


24 posted on 09/23/2013 8:24:28 PM PDT by Texas Fossil
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To: Edward Teach

Dare to dream!
Dare to do!


25 posted on 09/23/2013 8:29:01 PM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (IÂ’m not a Republican, I'm a Conservative! Pubbies haven't been conservative since before T.R.)
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To: exbrit

I’m wondering if he took out any Muzzies!


26 posted on 09/23/2013 8:32:46 PM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (IÂ’m not a Republican, I'm a Conservative! Pubbies haven't been conservative since before T.R.)
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy
An ex-Israeli special forces guy who co-founded Akamai was killed by the 9/11 hijackers. Yes, he had been out for a decade, but he lacked the situational awareness to figure out that one of the hijackers was behind him. I'm sure these guys do great in shooting competitions and in single combat, but it's quite another thing to deal with even minimally-trained real live people who outnumber you and are cooperating with each other in trying to kill you. "Lone Survivor" was a book that described in excruciating detail what happens when special forces soldiers are detected by primitive Afghan tribesmen out in Indian country.
27 posted on 09/23/2013 8:44:47 PM PDT by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always.)
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To: Chode

You don’t need an armorer for the G3 or the AK.


28 posted on 09/23/2013 8:47:11 PM PDT by smokingfrog ( ==> sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: Texas Fossil

They’ve blown his cover!......Horrible


29 posted on 09/23/2013 9:24:23 PM PDT by Guenevere (....)
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To: Guenevere

Yep. And the pic this morning was a clear photo.


30 posted on 09/23/2013 9:29:45 PM PDT by Texas Fossil
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To: Texas Fossil

Yes, clearly.......


31 posted on 09/23/2013 9:42:37 PM PDT by Guenevere (....)
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To: Texas Fossil

Yes, clearly.......


32 posted on 09/23/2013 9:42:37 PM PDT by Guenevere (....)
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To: Zhang Fei

Incorrect, there was indeed a US Army SF team in a fight like that he was referring to. It is a totally separate incident from the Bravo 2 zero thing. And it ended as he said. They inflicted enormous casualties and escaped in fine shape. They were able to establish communications and direct F-16s with cluster bombs in close support until their rescue choppers arrived.
The final decisive CBU drop was nearly on their own position as it was about to be overrun.

It wiped out the bad guys long enough for a rescue machine to snatch them out.


33 posted on 09/23/2013 9:52:25 PM PDT by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office.)
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To: DesertRhino
They were able to establish communications and direct F-16s with cluster bombs in close support until their rescue choppers arrived.

Air support and choppers with miniguns obviously provide more firepower than the locals can match, while taking care of enemy air and artillery. After 9/11, air support provided lightly-armed Northern Alliance troops with what they needed to drive the Taliban out of most Afghan cities. Air support provides Army platoons with the ability to hold off hundreds of Taliban at a time. The SAS team had to fight them off with the weapons on hand. Marcus Luttrell's unit had no air support. Bottom line is that with just the weapons on hand, and on foot, special forces personnel are sitting ducks once they're discovered out in Indian country. It wasn't like the ex-SAS guy at the mall could call in Tornado air strikes on jihadi positions.

34 posted on 09/23/2013 10:24:18 PM PDT by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always.)
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy
By the account in this story, he chose to evacuate many innocent civilians. And this was his tactical choice. But what if he had chosen to instead confront the problem instead of mitigating it?

I think I'll defer to his choice, whatever his reasons.

35 posted on 09/23/2013 10:44:20 PM PDT by Teacher317 (Obama is failing faster than I can lower my expectations.)
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To: exbrit

The MSM keeps talking about 3 Americans being among the terrorists. Since when is an islamist Somali, who spent a couple of years in Minnesota and then returned to Africa to continue Jihad, ever to be considered an American?


36 posted on 09/24/2013 4:16:54 AM PDT by BuffaloJack (Gun Control is the Key to totalitarianism and genocide.)
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To: exbrit

This SAS guy is a genuine hero. No running for a touchtown and doing a dance in the end zone, this hero goes back in to face certain danger and save lives a dozen times, because that’s what heros do. Nobody ordered him to do this; he saw people in danger and removed them from danger.


37 posted on 09/24/2013 4:20:16 AM PDT by BuffaloJack (Gun Control is the Key to totalitarianism and genocide.)
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To: smokingfrog
yeah, there is that...
38 posted on 09/24/2013 4:39:01 AM PDT by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -vvv- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: Chode

Finally, some brit figured out that completely eliminating guns is not such a good idea after all, just ask those 100 or so people the off duty soldier saved.


39 posted on 09/24/2013 5:03:50 AM PDT by DaveA37
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To: Progov
100%
40 posted on 09/24/2013 5:04:57 AM PDT by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -vvv- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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