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McCain: F-35 among the ‘Great, National Scandals’
DoD Buzz ^ | 9-19-2013

Posted on 09/24/2013 10:33:14 AM PDT by ClaytonP

Days after the U.S. Defense Department signaled an improving relationship with Lockheed Martin Corp. over the cost of the F-35 fighter jet, Sen. John McCain called the program “one of the great national scandals.”

McCain, a Republican from Arizona and the 2008 Republican presidential candidate, was speaking during a Senate Armed Services Committee hearing to consider the nominations of several White House appointments, including Deborah Lee James to become the next secretary of the Air Force.

McCain criticized the F-35 Joint Strike Fighter as the government’s first trillion-dollar acquisition program (including sustainment costs). Its repeated cost overruns “have made it worse than a disgrace,” he said. Despite recent efforts to reduce prices on the next batch of aircraft, “it’s still one of the great, national scandals that we have ever had, as far as the expenditure of taxpayers’ dollars are concerned,” he said.


McCain, who also noted that the Navy’s new USS Gerald R. Ford aircraft carrier is more than $2 billion over budget, was responding to James’ comment that the current budget environment is “chaotic” and makes planning difficult.

Air Force Lt. Gen. Christopher Bogdan, who oversees the F-35 program, this week said the relationship between the service and Lockheed — the plane’s manufacturer and the world’s biggest defense contractor — along with engine-maker Pratt & Whitney, part of United Technologies Corp., is “orders of magnitude” better than it was a year ago.

“I’m encouraged by where we are today,” he said Sept. 17 at the Air Force Association’s Air & Space Conference and Technology Exposition at National Harbor, Md. “I’d like to be a little further along.”

The comments were a stark contrast to those Bogdan made at the same forum last year, when he called the relationship the “worst I’ve ever seen.” This year, Bogdan indicated his previous remarks were deliberate. “I threw a hand grenade into the crowd … that was intended,” he said.

At the hearing, McCain also pressed James on the issue of sexual assaults in the military. The Air Force, in particular, has faced criticism over a spate of high-profile sexual assault scandals.

Lt. Col. Jeffrey Krusinski, the chief of the Air Force’s sexual assault prevention and response branch, was arrested and charged with sexual battery in May after allegedly groping a woman outside a strip club near the Pentagon. A month earlier, Air Force Lt. Gen. Craig Franklin, commander of the 3rd Air Force at Ramstein Air Base in Germany, ignited a firestorm when he overturned the conviction of Lt. Col. James Wilkerson III, a fellow fighter pilot who was accused of fondling the victim as she slept in his guest bedroom.

“Can this committee have confidence that this is one of your highest priorities and that you can come to this committee and present to all of us a plan and a policy that will put this issue on a sharp decline and lead to a renewed confidence in the American people that young women who join the United States Air Force will have confidence that they will not be subject to a sexual assault?” McCain asked.

“This will be one of my top priorities,” James replied. “I intended to work on it very, very hard and I absolutely welcome the opportunity to do that.”

“Got any ideas?” McCain interrupted.

“One I put forth … is to hold commanders more accountable, to include in their performance assessments a measure of the climate within their unit and how well they’re doing,” she replied. “Being a commander — it’s not an entitlement, it’s an honor and a privilege, and if they’re not living up to the measure, they need to go.”

James most recently worked as an executive at the defense contractor SAIC Inc. and also served as a former assistant secretary of defense.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government
KEYWORDS: collaborator

1 posted on 09/24/2013 10:33:14 AM PDT by ClaytonP
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To: ClaytonP

Bengazi, NSA, IRS, fast and furious, attacking Libya in defiance of the war powers act, supporting the Brotherhood in Egypt, Putin making Obama his bitch over Syria... and McCain thinks cost overruns on a fighter program is a scandal.


2 posted on 09/24/2013 10:36:36 AM PDT by thorvaldr
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To: ClaytonP

Apparently none of the contractors who build the F-35 are among the contributors to the Re-elect McCain for Senate campaign.


3 posted on 09/24/2013 10:37:13 AM PDT by skeeter
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To: ClaytonP

Deborah Lee James to become the next secretary of the Air Force.

Do we have a secretary of the Marine Corps?

Too many damn secretaries is the problem.


4 posted on 09/24/2013 10:37:55 AM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: ClaytonP

Yes, it is McCain in action. He states and “F-35 represents another major cost-overrun program....”.

I wonder why McCain is not standing up and attacking the White House for the MAJOR COST OVERRUN that its ideology and spending represent??

Hypocrisy anyone?? ala Washington style?


5 posted on 09/24/2013 10:38:22 AM PDT by EagleUSA
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To: ClaytonP

At $200 million per copy, that’s a lot of stealth.


6 posted on 09/24/2013 10:38:22 AM PDT by Zuben Elgenubi
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To: ClaytonP
McLAME -- has become one of the Great National Scandals...

jmo....

7 posted on 09/24/2013 10:39:04 AM PDT by Wings-n-Wind (The main things are the plain things!)
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To: skeeter

+1


8 posted on 09/24/2013 10:43:05 AM PDT by ColdOne (I miss my poochie... Tasha 2000~3/14/11)
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To: ClaytonP

"The Money Pit"
9 posted on 09/24/2013 10:43:14 AM PDT by Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America (If Americans were as concerned for their country as Egyptians are, Obama would be ousted!)
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To: tet68

No, there is no Secretary of the Marine Corps. The highest position is Commandant of the Marine Corps, but it is subordinate to the Secretary of the Navy (itself sub-cabinet and subordinate to Defense Secretary).


10 posted on 09/24/2013 10:43:16 AM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (Resist We Much)
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To: Wings-n-Wind

Guess he didnt get his cut....


11 posted on 09/24/2013 10:45:30 AM PDT by rrrod (at home in Medellin Colombia)
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To: fieldmarshaldj

I still think it should be called the WAR department.


12 posted on 09/24/2013 10:46:19 AM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: ClaytonP
McCain: F-35 among the ‘Great, National Scandals’

He's just mad that they won't let him crash one.

13 posted on 09/24/2013 10:46:21 AM PDT by EternalVigilance (The GOP establishment is like a dodo bird: Not too bright and on its way to extinction.)
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To: ClaytonP

So why did McLame push to cancel the F22 program then? Or should we go back to the F4?


14 posted on 09/24/2013 10:47:07 AM PDT by lowtaxsmallgov (This Administration has absolutely no idea how to grow an economy)
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To: Zuben Elgenubi

Still, not stealthy enough to hide the true cost of stealthiness.


15 posted on 09/24/2013 10:47:34 AM PDT by lbryce (Obama:The Worst Is Yet To come)
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To: ClaytonP

McCain, never that great an aviator (an enemy ace for crashing 5 aircraft) to begin with, is officially 40 years behind the power curve in fighter tactics and procurement.


16 posted on 09/24/2013 10:50:07 AM PDT by donmeaker (Youth is wasted on the young.)
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To: ClaytonP
As a Great National Scandal himself, McQueeg does know this subject matter.
17 posted on 09/24/2013 10:51:51 AM PDT by Servant of the Cross (the Truth will set you free)
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To: ClaytonP
Over a trillion dollars including sustainment costs over fifty years.
18 posted on 09/24/2013 10:55:06 AM PDT by Yo-Yo
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To: ClaytonP

Is this a McCain run ploy to divert attention from Obama’s real scandals?


19 posted on 09/24/2013 10:55:16 AM PDT by Iron Munro (When a killer screams 'Allahu Akbar' you don't need to be mystified about a motive.)
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To: ClaytonP

The question is - why do government projects ALWAYS have massive (sometimes exponential” cost overruns? In the “civilian world”, estimates, then contracts, are considered pretty much set in stone.

Yet somehow government contracts always have holes and loops where extra spending can and nearly always does come in.

I don’t want our pilots flying a cobbled-together shortcut. On the other hand, there is no good reason for these aircraft to cost so much beyond what they were suppose to cost. Even with changes made by the AF, the cost overruns are insane.


20 posted on 09/24/2013 10:56:02 AM PDT by TheBattman (Isn't the lesser evil... still evil?)
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To: ClaytonP

I guess not enough of the F-35 contracts are in Arizona.


21 posted on 09/24/2013 10:56:03 AM PDT by ModelBreaker
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To: tet68

You are right that we have way too many Cabinet Secretaries. Why do we have a Defense Department AND Homeland Security ? Add to that Veterans Affairs, which should clearly be folded back into Defense/War.


22 posted on 09/24/2013 11:04:24 AM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (Resist We Much)
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To: tet68

guessing black lesbian right there.


23 posted on 09/24/2013 11:05:12 AM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: EternalVigilance

Even at 200 million,it would be worth it to have McCain ride one into the ground.


24 posted on 09/24/2013 11:08:46 AM PDT by Farmer Dean (stop worrying about what they want to do to you,start thinking about what you want to do to them)
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To: TheBattman

3 letters...

I.A.M.

Shoddy work, incompetence, laziness...all cost the manufacturers in OT and rework.

Not to say the complexity of the program isn’t any help either...but from my experience with the actual workers, they flat don’t give a damn.

It’s the “evil corporation” that they’re out to “punish” for employing them.


25 posted on 09/24/2013 11:16:08 AM PDT by SZonian (Throwing our allegiances to political parties in the long run gave away our liberty.)
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To: ClaytonP
With the collapse of American morality I can see no reason why our military should not follow with collapsed morality. I can foresee a Female Admiral pleasuring an 18 year old female seaman just as the attackers missiles are launched. Instead of issuing the order to defend she will scream in ecstasy, the ship will be hit and sink resulting in the loss of 3000 lives and a 20 billion dollar ship. Such are the fruits of tolerance.
26 posted on 09/24/2013 11:18:31 AM PDT by AEMILIUS PAULUS (It is a shame that when these people give a riot)
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To: EagleUSA

The answer is fairly simple: McCain can blackmail the weapons manufacturers who aren’t on board his money train. He can’t extract any money from the stooge in the white house.


27 posted on 09/24/2013 11:27:15 AM PDT by DPMD
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To: ClaytonP

What the hell would McCain know about a fighter jet? Other than how to crash them. And I’m not talking about the one he got shot down in because he didn’t follow procedures.


28 posted on 09/24/2013 11:35:17 AM PDT by VerySadAmerican (".....Barrack, and the horse Mohammed rode in on.")
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To: ClaytonP

What the hell would McCain know about a fighter jet? Other than how to crash them. And I’m not talking about the one he got shot down in because he didn’t follow procedures.


29 posted on 09/24/2013 11:35:41 AM PDT by VerySadAmerican (".....Barrack, and the horse Mohammed rode in on.")
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To: ClaytonP

Juan ought to know about scandals - he is one.


30 posted on 09/24/2013 11:44:24 AM PDT by NTHockey (Rules of engagement #1: Take no prisoners. And to the NSA trolls, FU)
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To: ClaytonP

Well Mac, it would help if there were a consistant set of requirements and a predictable funding profile.


31 posted on 09/24/2013 11:45:27 AM PDT by G Larry (Let his days be few; and let another take his office. Psalms 109:8)
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To: skeeter
Apparently none of the contractors who build the F-35 are among
the contributors to the Re-elect McCain for Senate campaign.
pretty much, he's really a lying P.O.$....

Retire these GOP/e B@$@$T$; don't show any respect
for their previous actions..deeds.

32 posted on 09/24/2013 11:49:41 AM PDT by skinkinthegrass (who'll take tomorrow,$pend it all today;who can take your income & tax it all away..0'Blowfly can :-)
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To: ModelBreaker

Actually much of the training and basing of squadrons for the F-35 will be in Arizona. They doubled the number of Squadrons at Luke about three months ago.


33 posted on 09/24/2013 11:54:39 AM PDT by KC Burke (Officially since Memorial Day they are the Gimmie-crat Party.)
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To: lowtaxsmallgov

I don’t think I have heard of a military program in decades that Mclame did not push to cancel.


34 posted on 09/24/2013 11:55:46 AM PDT by TalonDJ
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To: VerySadAmerican
And I’m not talking about the one he got shot
down in because he didn’t follow procedures.
and didn't he graduated last (the goat..A/N ?) in his class...
maybe he was passed thru b/c of his family (pull :) traditions

35 posted on 09/24/2013 11:57:56 AM PDT by skinkinthegrass (who'll take tomorrow,$pend it all today;who can take your income & tax it all away..0'Blowfly can :-)
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To: KC Burke; ModelBreaker

Yeah but he wanted ALL of them and now he is pouting because FL got the first one.


36 posted on 09/24/2013 11:58:04 AM PDT by TalonDJ
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To: ClaytonP

Whatever the outcome—please do not let McCain try to fly one.

He crashed more airplanes than Soviet missiles, before he finally crashed one and got taken prisoner.

That’s what happens when they make exceptions for an Admirals boy who was near the bottom of his class.


37 posted on 09/24/2013 12:03:31 PM PDT by Venturer ( cowardice posturing as tolerance =political correctness)
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To: ClaytonP

I do not like McCain but really? The f-35 is a very trouble program. Way over budget, way behind schedule and with performance requirements being redefined downward. I would not be surprised if when all is said and done one f-35 cost’s more then an f-22 and an f-22 is a much better fighter.


38 posted on 09/24/2013 12:12:19 PM PDT by jpsb (Believe nothing until it has been officially denied)
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To: skinkinthegrass

I think it’s pretty well accepted that McCain got lots of priviledges because of who his father was. And that includes the North Vietnames.


39 posted on 09/24/2013 12:19:11 PM PDT by VerySadAmerican (".....Barrack, and the horse Mohammed rode in on.")
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To: ClaytonP

!Callate Juan!


40 posted on 09/24/2013 12:49:30 PM PDT by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: All armed conservatives. Proud anarchist, 2013)
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To: ClaytonP

Who is John McCain? I’m hardly remembering that name anymore.


41 posted on 09/24/2013 2:56:08 PM PDT by lu shissler (ecause)
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To: Farmer Dean

Yeah, except he has a knack for walking away.


42 posted on 09/24/2013 4:09:59 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (The GOP establishment is like a dodo bird: Not too bright and on its way to extinction.)
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