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Undisclosed Pension Extras Cost Detroit Billions
New York Times ^ | SEPTEMBER 25, 2013 | MARY WILLIAMS WALSH

Posted on 09/25/2013 1:49:35 PM PDT by reaganaut1

Detroit’s municipal pension fund made undisclosed payments for decades to retirees, active workers and others above and beyond normal benefits, costing the struggling city billions of dollars, according to an outside actuary hired to examine the payments.

The payments included bonuses to retirees, supplements to workers not yet retired and cash to the families of workers who died too young to get a pension, according to a report by the outside actuary and other sources.

How much each person received is not known because payments were not disclosed in the annual reports of the fund.

Detroit has nearly 12,000 retired general workers, who last year received pensions of $19,213 a year on average — hardly enough to drive a great American city into bankruptcy. But the total excess payments in some years ran to more than $100 million, a crushing expense for a city in steep decline. In some years, the outside actuary found, Detroit poured more than twice the amount into the pension fund that it would have had to contribute had it only paid the specified pension benefits.

And even then, the city’s contributions were not enough. So much money had been drained from the pension fund that by 2005, Detroit could no longer replenish it from its dwindling tax revenues. Instead, the city turned to the public bond markets, borrowed $1.44 billion and used that to fill the hole.

Even that didn’t work. Last June, Detroit failed to make a $39.7 million interest payment on that borrowing — the first default of what was soon to become the biggest municipal bankruptcy case in American history.

Detroit said that making the interest payment would have consumed more than 90 percent of its available cash. And besides, the hole in its pension fund was growing again

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Front Page News; US: Michigan
KEYWORDS: detroit; publicpensions
You cannot make this stuff up.
1 posted on 09/25/2013 1:49:35 PM PDT by reaganaut1
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To: reaganaut1

Lottery style Government retirement pensions at all levels in every state, county and city in the U.S. are economically gang raping the private sector.


2 posted on 09/25/2013 1:52:57 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: reaganaut1

...and who “runs” detroit? DIMs & LIBs. Many of them are (coincidentally) of the black persuasion. We shouldn’t draw any conclusions, but we should send them more of our money. No???


3 posted on 09/25/2013 1:54:19 PM PDT by hal ogen (First Amendment or Reeducation Camp?)
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To: reaganaut1
Detroit, missing millions, no records, a Union town since the early days.

Nothing to see here, move along.

4 posted on 09/25/2013 1:54:38 PM PDT by paulcissa (The first requirement of Liberalism is to stand on your head and tell the world they're upside down)
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To: paulcissa

How do you get a bonus when your retired? Ah, that be SOCIAL JUSTICE or something.


5 posted on 09/25/2013 1:59:59 PM PDT by spawn44 (MOO)
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To: paulcissa

BTW, there are now more unionized government employees in the U.S. today, than exist in all of the private sector.


6 posted on 09/25/2013 2:10:53 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: reaganaut1

The purpose of the Democrat party is to elect thieves to public office so that they have access to public treasuries in order to loot the treasuries.


7 posted on 09/25/2013 2:11:56 PM PDT by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: Springman; cyclotic; netmilsmom; RatsDawg; PGalt; FreedomHammer; queenkathy; madison10; ...
Now the only question is how long they can distract with Detroit while other cities continue the same idiotic practices.

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8 posted on 09/25/2013 2:15:05 PM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: dragnet2
Lottery style Government retirement pensions at all levels in every state, county and city in the U.S. are economically gang raping the private sector.

Hey, you aren't supposed to mention other cities and states. LOL
9 posted on 09/25/2013 2:16:25 PM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: spawn44
How do you get a bonus when your retired? Ah, that be SOCIAL JUSTICE or something.

When they had good years in the "market" rather than hang onto the unrealized gain in the Pension for a rainy day, they doled out 7.5% of you annual pension as a bonus or almost like a dividend. Well in lean times the pie got smaller and big chunks were already eaten so to speak.... Not good...

10 posted on 09/25/2013 2:20:33 PM PDT by taildragger (The E-GOP won't know what hit them, The Party of Reagan is almost here, hang tight folks....)
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To: reaganaut1

Since it worked out so well for Detroit, let’s UNIONIZE our entire health care system under 0bamacare, shall we? /s


11 posted on 09/25/2013 2:20:58 PM PDT by CivilWarBrewing
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To: paulcissa
Detroit, missing millions, no records, a Union town since the early days.

I don't blame it on the union, I blame it on the city government from the top on down.

No accountability, no oversight, no adherence to govt. regs, and no knowledge of the pension plan by the grunts who were ultimately responsible for calculating these payments and their superiors who never cared what was going on.

12 posted on 09/25/2013 3:33:49 PM PDT by Hot Tabasco (Ms. Muffett suffered from arachnophobia)
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To: reaganaut1

Yeah? So?

Raise taxes and print more money.

Problem fixed. :)


13 posted on 09/25/2013 3:47:17 PM PDT by Tzimisce (The American Revolution began when the British attempted to disarm the Colonists.)
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To: CivilWarBrewing
Since it worked out so well for Detroit, let’s UNIONIZE our entire health care system under 0bamacare, shall we? /s

Exactly. This is chump change in 0bombacare buck$.

14 posted on 09/25/2013 6:08:03 PM PDT by shove_it (old Old Guardsman)
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To: reaganaut1

There’s no telling how much graft was paid out over the years.


15 posted on 09/25/2013 9:33:55 PM PDT by VerySadAmerican (".....Barrack, and the horse Mohammed rode in on.")
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To: Hot Tabasco

“I don’t blame it on the union, I blame it on the city government from the top on down.”

You have to blame the unions when they control who gets elected in local government.

That is the same reason public schools are so expensive and dysfunctional.

The union controls the school board elections and the same board approves the contracts.

Public sector unions should be outlawed nationwide!


16 posted on 09/26/2013 5:45:27 AM PDT by Beagle8U (Free Republic -- One stop shopping ....... It's the Conservative Super WalMart for news .)
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To: Hot Tabasco

Except for the fact that the union campaigned, financed and helped elect the city government.


17 posted on 09/26/2013 5:53:22 AM PDT by outpostinmass2
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To: outpostinmass2
Except for the fact that the union campaigned, financed and helped elect the city government.

A democrat is a democrat no matter who finances them.......

18 posted on 09/26/2013 9:09:33 AM PDT by Hot Tabasco (Ms. Muffett suffered from arachnophobia)
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