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To: Jane Long

I am in fundamental disagreement with many on this board.

I do not believe we should allow free reign in healthcare costs.

We pay MUCH TOO MUCH for healthcare. That is why we ended up with socialism.

I do not like socialism, but I also do not like paying too much for healthcare.

So far, those are the two options.

Paying too much. Or socialism.

Sorry but that choice is the pits.

GOP I was all for your fight, but if we’re going to challenge the healthcare plan, let’s have a better one.

America’s healthcare is far, far too expensive.


18 posted on 09/25/2013 6:23:52 PM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network
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To: Cringing Negativism Network
America’s healthcare is far, far too expensive.

That's what happens when you corrupt a service with billions and billions of tax payer dollars and endless government regulations. More government isn't the cure. It never is.

21 posted on 09/25/2013 6:28:02 PM PDT by RC one
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

If someone wants bealthcare, they need to get a job, earn the money and buy it. Nothing in the Constitution that says Americans are guaranteed healthcare. This is a free country (or used to be) and some left-wing asshole of a “president” has no business forcing socialized medicine on Americans. He needs to take his sorry communist ass to a socialist country where they might appreciate his communism.


24 posted on 09/25/2013 6:33:40 PM PDT by NKP_Vet
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

NONSENSE and BALDERDASH.

Medical costs were reasonable and often negotiated between rotor, patient, and hospital BEFORE the government got involve with the crappy medicare system. (That was in the late 1950s and early 1960s). Ever since very time the government decides to implement NEW regulations the cost goes up (just like the cost of college with the increasing school loan programs).

I suggest you are not old enough to remember the fights that went on trying to prevent medicare. Either that or you were not paying attention. I have watched thos fight for the past 50 years and it makes me sick every time it comes around.


27 posted on 09/25/2013 6:35:27 PM PDT by Nifster
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To: Cringing Negativism Network
Healthcare costs will *reign* themselves in once government gets out of the business. Maybe you should move to China...where all of the jobs are...and take part in their Socialized *healthcare*.

As for me, I'm rooting for free enterprise and LESS government, in my healthcare.

29 posted on 09/25/2013 6:36:43 PM PDT by Jane Long (While Marxists continue the fundamental transformation of the USA, progressive RINOs stay silent.)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network
We pay MUCH TOO MUCH for healthcare.

Exactly! That's why Ted Cruz supports allow the American people to purchase insurance policies across state lines which has not been allowed. In the state of California, for example, there were only a few insurance companies from which the people were allowed to purchase their policies. This is the situation across the USA. No competition means HIGH prices.

ObamaCare, on the other hand, increases the cost of healthcare.

When the government gets involved, the rates go up.

$400 toilet seats

$600 hammers

Apartments that were once $300 a month now are over $1000 a month because landlords know that if the working man cannot afford it, the career welfare recipient can because the same government that pays $400 for a toilet seat will surely pay $1500 for a one bedroom apartment.

32 posted on 09/25/2013 6:39:15 PM PDT by tsowellfan
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

No, there is another option:

It’s called paying for what you receive. Now, I have a brother that has no healthcare insurance and he pays as he goes - and finds it much cheaper!

The problems we have with healthcare today have to do with costs - and most of that resolves around the government.

Take them out of it and costs go down dramatically.

My brother found a Doctor that takes patients without insurance and pays about 1/4 the cost of insured patients. That of course is just one instance but I’d bet that if practiced across the states, it would become the norm.

The result is that if left to individuals, costs would be low - when Government is involved, costs escalate.

Isn’t that true whenever Government gets involved?


35 posted on 09/25/2013 6:39:53 PM PDT by Deagle (uently...)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network
I want to buy my health "insurance" just like my car, home, flood and fire insurance, not AFTER my house catches fire, my house has been flooded or teenagers trash it.

There is no "insurance" in "health insurance," for what you are doing is immediately going to the doctor, getting physicals, shots, prescriptions, etc. so that's what makes it "expensive," that and government mandates.

One needs catastrophic for really bad things but for every day office visits for hives, bee stings, cuts and broken bones are part of every day life and should be treated differently. Then costs are reasonable for you and your doctor doesn't have to have a government compliance officer on staff!

43 posted on 09/25/2013 6:51:15 PM PDT by zerosix (Native Sunflowers)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network
We pay MUCH TOO MUCH for healthcare. That is why we ended up with socialism.

You truly are naive or a latent statist.

Please take time and study the works of Ludwig Von Mises and Milton Friedman, among others.

To repeat, the ONLY reason health care is expensive is because of decades interference by government AT all levels.

You need to focus on first principles.

Anyone who believes that some government "program" will FIX our Healthcare costs is sadly mistaken.

57 posted on 09/25/2013 7:13:28 PM PDT by sand88
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To: Cringing Negativism Network
GOP I was all for your fight, but if we’re going to challenge the healthcare plan, let’s have a better one.

The GOP's health care plan should be to get government completely out of the health sector.

Government is the reason it's so expensive.

67 posted on 09/25/2013 7:31:39 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

Too much socialism in the system is why we pay as we do.

We need to roll back the effects of previous healthcare “plans”.


87 posted on 09/25/2013 8:33:06 PM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

Dude. You don’t think government interference is THE driver of our high costs?


93 posted on 09/25/2013 8:58:31 PM PDT by ilgipper (Obama is proving that very bad ideas can be wrapped up in pretty words)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network
America’s healthcare is far, far too expensive.

Healthcare is far too expensive precisely because government got involved in the first place. It's worked the same way for education, housing, farm lands, etc. The costs of anything that is subsidized grows much faster than the rate of inflation.

97 posted on 09/25/2013 11:05:41 PM PDT by upsdriver ( Palin/West '16)
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