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Boys punished for firing airsoft guns (Update - Suspended for the rest of the school year)
WAVY.com ^ | 9-25-2013 | Andy Fox

Posted on 09/25/2013 7:12:25 PM PDT by servo1969

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To: sarasmom
Sorry, we must agree to disagree.

Kids do all kinds of things out of sight of their parents, because they pretty quickly decide that they want to do what they want to do, and whether adults would allow it or not isn't the point. From a kid's point of view, adults don't allow anything. Or what they allow or don't allow is so arbitrary (in the mind of a child) kids just decide to hide it all.

The point is not the kids. The point is the mother, who has such an irrational fear of anything resembling a gun that she actually called 911 because some boys were playing in their own yard (which is, not to put too fine a point on it, almost a football field away from the bus stop, according to the article.) Please. This isn't normal behavior, and if you think it is, I'm concerned for the children you might be raising; and I'm certainly concerned for the ways you must be wasting 911 emergency resources in your own community.

41 posted on 09/25/2013 9:55:38 PM PDT by FredZarguna (With bell, book, and candle, please.)
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To: MediaMole
Airsofts are harmless.

I wouldn't bet on that. The ones I have shot could and would cause severe injury at close range if you were hit in the face or eyes. They easily break windows, and blast holes right through soda cans.

Shooting airsoft guns at other people who aren't wearing suitable masks and eye protection is stupid and reckless.

Whether or not the school should have gotten involved is an entirely different topic, but if I saw a young person shooting at other kids who did not have protective masks and eyewear I'd put a stop to it.

42 posted on 09/25/2013 9:57:24 PM PDT by freeandfreezing
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To: All

When I was in High School one of my electives was a “Hunting and Fishing” class.

Students actually brought rifles and shotguns to school and nobody flipped out and nobody was shot.

And this was in the SF Bay Area, back when California was a Conservative state.


43 posted on 09/25/2013 11:37:02 PM PDT by Rodney Dangerfield (Ask the MSM about Christopher Newsom and Channon Christian. Observe the subsequent blank stares.)
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To: Thane_Banquo

When will schools start training their own swat teams and raid homes because students give them that right.


44 posted on 09/25/2013 11:59:57 PM PDT by MaxMax (If you're not pissed off, you're not paying attention)
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To: servo1969

I hope they sue the school for enough money that the kids never have to wok a day in their lives.


45 posted on 09/26/2013 2:49:43 AM PDT by freeangel ( (free speech is only good until someone else doesn't like it)
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To: servo1969
"My son is my private property," she said. "He does not become the school's property until he goes to the bus stop, gets on the bus, and goes to school."

Huh? She admits her son "becomes school property"? Poor dumb woman.

46 posted on 09/26/2013 2:57:42 AM PDT by raybbr (I weep over my sons' future in this Godforsaken country.)
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To: freeandfreezing

I’m not all up on the terms, but I know that paint-ball guns (using compressed air) can put a welt on you from 50+ feet away, and definitly need eye and face protection. The airsoft I think is a much smaller, soft plastic pellet about the size of a BB. But even so - eye protection would be a mandatory if it were my kids. And a talk to other kids and/or their parents.

And it sounds like two instances. The first instance sounds like all the kids were just playing and goofing around together. The second instance is poorly written, but if they were shooting at kids that didn’t want to be shot - that’s a whole different story. If it was my kids getting shot, the other kids and their parents would get a good talking to. And if that didn’t work and it happened again, I’d talk to them again, and tell them I would be calling the cops to have them discuss it with them as well. Although I suppose nowadays just the idea of a cop showing up at your door doesn’t strike the fear of God in a kid like it did when I was young.

If it was my kids doing the shooting, they’d owe the other kids an apology, and get their guns taken away for a good long time.


47 posted on 09/26/2013 3:28:06 AM PDT by 21twelve ("We've got the guns, and we got the numbers" adapted and revised from Jim M.)
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To: GeronL

Of course it is a legal issue, but my point was it should not have been a school issue. The incident did not happen on school property.

As far as legal issues, schools will very seldom contact LEO for criminal actions by students at school. Normally schools want to handle it all, even though the school near me got involved in students drinking off campus, they did not notify LEO and you are right it is a legal issue.

Schools are reaching for more authority over students, but seldom report crimes. Another incident that happened here is two girls were caught smoking pot in the girl’s bathroom at the high school. One of the girls had a parent that was LEO. School called in parents, told them their children were suspended for a week...no LEO involvement planned by the school. The LEO officer took his own daughter and booked her into jail, and the school thought it was horrible.


48 posted on 09/26/2013 4:25:56 AM PDT by Tammy8 ( ~Secure the border and deport all illegals- do it now! ~ Support our Troops!~)
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To: exit82

We have to be careful not to confuse courage with anger. If I had been there long enough to study the situation and had been clearly thinking about where I was and to whom I was speaking, I would have never of said the things I said to my principal. It was my anger over the lies that had been told that caused me to say those things, not my courage.

My anger scale goes way over the red line when someone tells lies about me. My temper has gotten me in trouble more than once in the past. In this case, things just worked out.


49 posted on 09/26/2013 6:19:11 AM PDT by Raven6 (Psalm 144:1 and Proverbs 22:3)
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To: MediaMole

You’ll put your eye out!


50 posted on 09/26/2013 6:24:25 AM PDT by Resolute Conservative
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To: 21twelve
If it was my kids doing the shooting, they’d owe the other kids an apology, and get their guns taken away for a good long time.

More years ago than I care to count, I "accidently" shot out several of lights that one of the neighbors had on their house with the pellet gun. After the written apology I was required to shovel the neighbors drive and walk for free for the rest of the season.

51 posted on 09/26/2013 7:33:40 AM PDT by verga (Lasciante ogne speranza, voi ch'intrate.)
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To: Tammy8

The same reason why schools want to handle teacher on child sex crimes quietly, and just shuttle the sex criminal to a new school.


52 posted on 09/26/2013 8:31:46 AM PDT by GeronL
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To: servo1969

Disgusting. There is just so much wrong here that it isn’t even funny.

Kids were playing with non-politically correct toys on private property. Some cry-baby b*tch calls the cops, gets the school involved, and now the kids are suspended.

I’d bet a solid $1000 that the “female” who called the cops is heavily into Democrat politics and wanted to make an example of these kids. It’s an MO we’re seeing crop up a lot.

People filing false police reports, and officers supporting blatantly misapplied statutes and unConstitutional laws, need to have charges filed against them. Deprivation of Civil Rights under Color of Law if nothing else.

This has to stop, now.


53 posted on 09/26/2013 8:40:40 AM PDT by Dead Corpse (I will not comply.)
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To: Dead Corpse

The school district [taxpayers] will probably pay for the child’s home tutor.

Things continue to be wacky in the *Constitution State*: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3071429/posts


54 posted on 09/26/2013 8:44:12 AM PDT by Daffynition (*In memory of FReeper Blackie. God rest his *Hooligan* soul.*)
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To: Daffynition

If stuff like this starts happening to my kids, my Wife and I have already decided we’d home school. We’re already teaching more in the home now than the kids are learning in school as it stands.


55 posted on 09/26/2013 8:47:07 AM PDT by Dead Corpse (I will not comply.)
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To: servo1969

What is really happening here is that the State is conditioning these children how to live their lives as slaves and feminized men. It is a pity that they have no adult to advocate for them.


56 posted on 09/26/2013 8:50:27 AM PDT by sport
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To: servo1969

WTF is wrong with these schools?

Sue the hell out of them.


57 posted on 09/26/2013 11:49:46 AM PDT by Red in Blue PA (When Injustice becomes Law, Resistance Becomes Duty.-Thomas Jefferson)
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To: Raven6
Whatever happened to that kid down the street?

My guess is that he's serving another term of prison OR he's a rich, successful businessman. Jerks often get ahead like that.

58 posted on 09/26/2013 2:32:13 PM PDT by lowbridge
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To: lowbridge

He quit school when he turned 16... Married some girl with a IQ smaller than her shoe size. Beat her up and then went to prison. He never had the stones to fight someone of equal strength or in a straight forward fight... He always had to pick on someone weaker or had to make sure he had the advantage when he picked a fight. I never had any tolerance for a bully.

If I saw him on the street today and witnessed him exhibiting his old behavior, I would probably walk up and knock the crap out of him just for old time’ sake... I would then place him under citizen’s arrest (we can do that here provided we have the physical strength to enforce the action) and get his butt put back in jail. Since I’m 6’4” and 245, and am always armed with at least two hand guns and a couple of rifles in my vehicle (we can do that here as well, provided you have a carry permit), I don’t think he would be too much of a problem.


59 posted on 09/26/2013 8:44:23 PM PDT by Raven6 (Psalm 144:1 and Proverbs 22:3)
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To: exit82

God never rewards someone for taking, not self defense, but vengeance. Never. They complicate their own situation before God by doing so. They may be forgiven, but not excused; their lesson in obeying God will be the harder.


60 posted on 09/26/2013 8:51:56 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (The Lion of Judah will roar again if you give him a big hug and a cheer and mean it. See my page.)
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