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Runner fined $100 at Valley Forge amid shutdown
Philly.com ^ | 10/8/2013 | The Associated Press

Posted on 10/08/2013 8:21:47 AM PDT by Phillyred

Edited on 10/08/2013 3:37:35 PM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

VALLEY FORGE, Pa. (AP) - A marathoner says he was fined $100 for running in Valley Forge National Historical Park during the government shutdown.

John Bell, 56, said he parked his car on Sunday in a remote parking lot, not one blocked by a barrier. Bell, of Chadds Ford, said two rangers were waiting with their car lights flashing when he returned.


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TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: govtshutdowm; nationalparks; obamapunishes; shutdown
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Liberals continue to make life as unnecessarily painful as possible.
1 posted on 10/08/2013 8:21:47 AM PDT by Phillyred
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To: Phillyred
Should'a just said GFY and get a REAL ticket for a REAL crime.

Good luck in court, chief

2 posted on 10/08/2013 8:24:35 AM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true)
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To: Phillyred

Easy ... Refuse To Pay! The public or the People hold ownership, not D.C. or zer0 and his minions.


3 posted on 10/08/2013 8:24:43 AM PDT by no-to-illegals (Scrutinize our government and Secure the Blessing of Freedom and Justice)
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To: Phillyred
The US feral government owns EVERYTHING, peasants, and the sooner you understand that the safer you will be.

I mean, it would be a shame if something bad happened to you.

4 posted on 10/08/2013 8:25:27 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Who knew that one day professional wrestling would be less fake than professional journalism?)
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To: Phillyred

With all these parks being closed, taxpayers should get a refund for not having access to them. Why should we pay for facilities that are closed and presumably no money is being spent to operate them?

Only in the government world do people pay for things that are closed down. The taxpayer is a chump.


5 posted on 10/08/2013 8:25:34 AM PDT by Starboard
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To: no-to-illegals

We the People ceased to be the sovereigns of this once great Constitutional Republic decades ago, when the subpreme court ruled that interstate commerce allowed fedzilla to dictate without Congressional passage of a law.


6 posted on 10/08/2013 8:26:58 AM PDT by MHGinTN (Being deceived can be cured.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
it would be a shame if something bad happened to you.

That works both ways.

/johnny

7 posted on 10/08/2013 8:28:39 AM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: MHGinTN

Am of this belief ... Our Constitutional Republic Never Ceased to Be ... I trust the public or rather The People (the majority) to know better than some government official, especially the government officials currently in power.


8 posted on 10/08/2013 8:29:24 AM PDT by no-to-illegals (Scrutinize our government and Secure the Blessing of Freedom and Justice)
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To: knarf

My inclination would be to beat the ranger to within inches of his life...if not shoot him on principle.

They are not there for my safety...they are now agents of tyranny and deserve no mercy.


9 posted on 10/08/2013 8:30:41 AM PDT by Ouderkirk (To the left, everything must evidence that this or that strand of leftist theory is true)
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To: Phillyred

Citizens own all Government land.

Why can the Government, an entity which solely derives its power from citizens, deny those citizens access to that which is rightfully theirs?


10 posted on 10/08/2013 8:31:36 AM PDT by Dexter Morgan (Everyone hides who they are.)
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To: Phillyred

Just talk to the police in spanish, they will waive you right through.


11 posted on 10/08/2013 8:31:47 AM PDT by Vince Ferrer
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To: Phillyred
These two rangers are the examples of the FEDs LE that are simply "doing their jobs" This is where it starts. Our founders would have had these two prime examples of tyranny enablers tarred and feathered.

Resistance MUST begin at the local level.

12 posted on 10/08/2013 8:31:51 AM PDT by clamper1797 (Evil WILL flourish when good men WILL not act)
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To: MHGinTN

13 posted on 10/08/2013 8:31:53 AM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true)
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To: Phillyred

Obama does nothing to illegals who hop the border but fines US citizens using their own property for recreation.

Maybe we’d have better luck securing the border with the National Park Service down there handing out fines.


14 posted on 10/08/2013 8:32:47 AM PDT by VeniVidiVici (Play the 'Knockout Game' with someone owning a 9mm and you get what you deserve)
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To: Vince Ferrer

Grab one man parts and they will ask you out.


15 posted on 10/08/2013 8:33:29 AM PDT by Resolute Conservative
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To: Phillyred

Obama wants you to feel his pain.


16 posted on 10/08/2013 8:36:42 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: Phillyred

I’m past disgusted with the rangers and other officers who are keeping baricades up, removing people, and handing out fines. They’re supposed to be representing us, at our national parks and memorials. They’ve become a big part of the problem “just following orders”.


17 posted on 10/08/2013 8:37:48 AM PDT by grania
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To: Phillyred
"...issuing fines to campers, bikers and hikers."

the new Revenuers.

18 posted on 10/08/2013 8:40:11 AM PDT by TurboZamboni (Marx smelled bad & lived with his parents most his life.)
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To: Phillyred
"two rangers were waiting with their car lights flashing when he returned"

The Feds are spending more on CLOSED parks than they do when they're open.

19 posted on 10/08/2013 8:40:13 AM PDT by Uncle Miltie (Need health care? Dial 1-800-F1UCK-YO to reach Obama's hotline)
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To: Phillyred
"The parks are MINE MINE MINE MINE MINE!!! Do you know who I AM? I am THE DEAR LEADER! And the parks are MINE MINE MINE MINE MINE!!!"


20 posted on 10/08/2013 8:40:29 AM PDT by GrandJediMasterYoda (What do we want? Time travel. When do we want it? It's irrelevant.)
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To: Phillyred

He should have said he doesn’t carry ID while running.

“My name is Barry Soetero”.


21 posted on 10/08/2013 8:41:27 AM PDT by TurboZamboni (Marx smelled bad & lived with his parents most his life.)
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To: Ouderkirk

The Rangers were doing the only real job of law enforcement:

Raising money for the welfare state from innocent citizens attempting to legally go about their day.


22 posted on 10/08/2013 8:41:34 AM PDT by Uncle Miltie (Need health care? Dial 1-800-F1UCK-YO to reach Obama's hotline)
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To: no-to-illegals

Refuse to Pay...

the first step down the path that leads to having your liberty taken at gunpoint.

Liberals never want to admit this fact. Everything the want to do has the inherent threat of a gun in the face.


23 posted on 10/08/2013 8:44:10 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: Phillyred
"After much thought Michelle and I have decided that for the good of the country it is best I step down. I realize now that I am in way over my head. So as a result I've decided that a bunny shall take my place. Bunny President, do you have a few words you'd like to say?"


24 posted on 10/08/2013 8:45:05 AM PDT by GrandJediMasterYoda (What do we want? Time travel. When do we want it? It's irrelevant.)
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To: VeniVidiVici

Time to change my tagline.

I’m disgusted with this government. I won’t even call it *my* government anymore.


25 posted on 10/08/2013 8:45:09 AM PDT by ladyjane (For the first time in in a long time I am proud of my country.)
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To: Dexter Morgan
Citizens own all Government land.

That's right. At best, the gov't is supposed to be custodians of the land, not the owner, nor our overlords.

26 posted on 10/08/2013 8:45:29 AM PDT by BitWielder1 (Corporate Profits are better than Government Waste)
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27 posted on 10/08/2013 8:46:19 AM PDT by onyx (Please Support Free Republic - Donate Monthly! If you want on Sarah Palin's Ping List, Let Me know!)
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To: MrB

yep


28 posted on 10/08/2013 8:46:49 AM PDT by no-to-illegals (Scrutinize our government and Secure the Blessing of Freedom and Justice)
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To: Phillyred
Insist on a jury trial and trust your fellow Americans to do the right thing, Jury Nullification. Not to mention how backed up the courts would become
29 posted on 10/08/2013 8:52:08 AM PDT by mistfree (Their & There, they're not the same)
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To: clamper1797

Our irony-challenged media probably won’t notice the Valley Forge-George Washington connection or implications.


30 posted on 10/08/2013 8:52:26 AM PDT by relictele ("An elective despotism was not the government we fought for..." - James Madison)
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To: Phillyred

the world is insane

if he were an illegal I guess it’d be okay


31 posted on 10/08/2013 8:52:33 AM PDT by GeronL
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To: Starboard

every day the government is “closed” should be a 1/365th reduction in taxes.


32 posted on 10/08/2013 8:53:44 AM PDT by GeronL
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To: Phillyred

Valley Forge is an extremely open park. Several well-used roads pass through it. The main hiking/jogging trail largely runs along the highway. More Spite House absurdity.


33 posted on 10/08/2013 8:53:52 AM PDT by dirtboy
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To: Phillyred

Call your House and Senate representatives and tell them to fix this ticket. Tell them that they will rue the day that the thugs minions gave you a ticket. Get a lawyer and make their lives miserable. Take down the names of the park rangers and keep tabs on them. Call the police when they do something illegal.


34 posted on 10/08/2013 9:00:59 AM PDT by VRWC For Truth (Roberts has perverted the Constitution)
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To: Phillyred

“Liberals continue to make life as unnecessarily painful as possible.”

If the Constitutionalists lose in this fight, just imagine how much more powerful a weapon this pain will be when they have full control over who receives medical care and who doesn’t!


35 posted on 10/08/2013 9:00:59 AM PDT by CSM (Keeper of the Dave Ramsey Ping list. FReepmail me if you want your beeber stuned.)
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To: Phillyred

It’s OUR park.


36 posted on 10/08/2013 9:03:56 AM PDT by heartwood
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To: Vince Ferrer
Just talk to the police in spanish, they will waive you right through.

Sad but true

37 posted on 10/08/2013 9:05:11 AM PDT by reaganaut (I don't do hopey-changey. I do ouchy-bleedy.)
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To: clamper1797

As Nuremberg taught us...”just following orders” is not a defense.


38 posted on 10/08/2013 9:06:13 AM PDT by reaganaut (I don't do hopey-changey. I do ouchy-bleedy.)
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To: MHGinTN

Hey MHG, how ya been, brother?


39 posted on 10/08/2013 9:06:33 AM PDT by reaganaut (I don't do hopey-changey. I do ouchy-bleedy.)
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To: onyx

I’m sure they turned OFF the Eternal/Infernal Flame at JFK’s gravesite, RIGHT? (I mean, to be consistant...all Memorials are just PARKS, right?)

Someone let me know soon, otherwise you’ll see me tomorrow with my skewers roasting pig parts at Arlington...

Bring your own condiments.

Ping to LAZ (by condiments I mean ketchup & mustard) LOL


40 posted on 10/08/2013 9:08:41 AM PDT by LadyBuck (Strangeways, here we come....)
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To: relictele

Of course they won’t.


41 posted on 10/08/2013 9:12:19 AM PDT by reaganaut (I don't do hopey-changey. I do ouchy-bleedy.)
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To: LadyBuck
I’m sure they turned OFF the Eternal/Infernal Flame at JFK’s gravesite, RIGHT? (I mean, to be consistant...all Memorials are just PARKS, right?)

WOW - excellent point!

I think Arlington is closed, isn't it?

42 posted on 10/08/2013 9:13:03 AM PDT by onyx (Please Support Free Republic - Donate Monthly! If you want on Sarah Palin's Ping List, Let Me know!)
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To: Phillyred
The Park Service says 20,000 employees have been furloughed and about 3,000 are providing security and emergency services.

Sounds like the Park Disservice needs a total of 3,000 people to perform essential services.

I'll go so far as to say, given the overreach capability of those 3,000, perhaps a further halving is in order.

43 posted on 10/08/2013 9:19:25 AM PDT by ExGeeEye (It's been over 90 days; time to start on 2014. Carpe GOP!)
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To: onyx

Are the DIMocRATs, LIBs and RINOs proud of their great leader, Clown Prince nobama? All these actions are beyond disgusting. Have we a tyranny?


44 posted on 10/08/2013 9:20:55 AM PDT by hal ogen (First Amendment or Reeducation Camp?)
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To: hal ogen

I think it’s TYRANNY!


45 posted on 10/08/2013 9:22:27 AM PDT by onyx (Please Support Free Republic - Donate Monthly! If you want on Sarah Palin's Ping List, Let Me know!)
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To: Phillyred

1) Why are the park rangers “essential”???
2) When are they closing the White House and evicting the squatters?????


46 posted on 10/08/2013 9:23:58 AM PDT by Missouri gal
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To: Phillyred

When are they going to evict the mother in law from the WH?


47 posted on 10/08/2013 9:29:42 AM PDT by bikerman (Obama! if his lips are moving he's lying.)
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To: CSM

That’s their goal. Once you have everyone’s health in your hands they’ll do whatever you tell them. The rest can be sent to camps.


48 posted on 10/08/2013 9:41:06 AM PDT by Phillyred
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To: Phillyred

If he’s got the time, he should ask for a trial by a jury of his peers. If he loses that... well, we’re truly screwed.


49 posted on 10/08/2013 9:44:37 AM PDT by Pearls Before Swine
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To: Phillyred

File a lawsuit against the officers as acting outside their area of authority. Publicity will hopefully make them uncomfortable.


50 posted on 10/08/2013 9:55:16 AM PDT by Wordkraft (Remember who the Collaborators are.)
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