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To: ek_hornbeck

The Vikings, the group often referred to as Normans, established a presence in Sicily and southern Italy in the 11th century. Being social people, I presume they socialized with the local population. As did Arabs who arrived later.


76 posted on 10/08/2013 4:58:31 PM PDT by SJackson (As a black man, you know, Barack could get shot going to the gas station, Michelle on Chicago)
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To: SJackson
The Vikings, the group often referred to as Normans, established a presence in Sicily and southern Italy in the 11th century. Being social people, I presume they socialized with the local population. As did Arabs who arrived later.

I think that the Middle Eastern features that you see in many Italians may go back even further: to the time that Phoenicians and Carthaginians colonized the area.

102 posted on 10/09/2013 8:38:15 AM PDT by ek_hornbeck
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To: SJackson; ek_hornbeck; truth_seeker

The Arabs arrived first; after some considerable period of time, mercenaries were hired by the Byzantines to drive them out. After that, some Normans arrived and carved out a short-lived kingdom in Sicily and if memory serves a small chunk of the Italian boot. Wanting the best for his kids, King Roger (”fweee Woger!”) hired Arab tutors and the whole thing went all kumbaya after that.

The (purported?) tomb of Hrolf the Ganger has a very-postmortem inscription referencing the various dynasties which had sprung from him, and the Sicily kingdom was one of them.


122 posted on 10/12/2013 11:05:38 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (It's no coincidence that some "conservatives" echo the hard left.)
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