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To: Hot Tabasco

“As a side note , in your readings, was there any mention of undercover cops who had infiltrated the gang?”

No. In everything that I have read there is no suggestion that the cops were “infiltrating” the motorcycle club. they were just regular members. Several of them were not undercover at all. One happened to work undercover elsewhere, but he was off-duty on this day, and that’s the guy who smashed the baby’s window.

I agree with the person who said we should wait for all the evidence, which is fine, but my comment referred to something the police already admitted, ie that one of their own SMASHED in a car window inches from a two-year old baby’s face. When more evdence comes in, there could be an innocent explanation why he did that. To quote the sage “I’m all ears.”


11 posted on 10/08/2013 1:51:24 PM PDT by edwinland
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To: edwinland

It may be tasteless to point this out, but a lot of the motorcycle clubs of this type are made up primarily of minorities, mostly black, and have been a problem in many places, not just New York.

Once upon a time, candidates were not able to get on the force if they had felonies or serious misdemeanors on their records or had known gang associates, but unfortunately the courts have overturned these things. In Jacksonville, we had a small ring of corrupt black cops extorting immigrant merchants (they finally killed one, which is what brought the ring down), and the same thing happened in New Orleans.

I would suspect that some of these cops were just hanging out with their buds, and unfortunately, in a case of divided loyalties, they decided not to go with the cop part.

The same was true, btw, of some earlier Irish and Italian cops, both from ethnic groups with serious gang activities in NYC. And that’s why laws were passed to prevent people with known gang associates from joining the force. It didn’t stop it entirely, but it did help.

And all of these laws are being overturned by our courts, so police departments now often find themselves ordered to take in people who once would have had no chance at get on the force.


13 posted on 10/08/2013 2:05:02 PM PDT by livius
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To: edwinland
In everything that I have read there is no suggestion that the cops were “infiltrating” the motorcycle club.

Well there you go, a report I saw reported that there were two undercover cops in the group who did nothing in fear of blowing their cover........

Which brings me back to my original statement, who in the MSM you gonna believe? Tis best to wait till all is said and done before casting judgment.........

20 posted on 10/08/2013 2:20:38 PM PDT by Hot Tabasco (Ms. Muffett suffered from arachnophobia)
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