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China could invade by 2020, Taiwan’s military says
France 24 ^ | 10/09/2013 | (France 24 with wires)

Posted on 10/09/2013 1:52:10 AM PDT by Olog-hai

If China’s two-decade-long arms buildup continues at current rates, the mainland will be able “to take Taiwan by force before the end of 2020” despite any moves by Taiwanese allies such as the US to repel an invasion, Taiwan’s military said Tuesday. …

China’s annual military spending has grown by double-digit rates on average for the past 20 years or so, according to the 2013 National Defense Report. The study added that China’s capacity for weapons research and manufacturing had also greatly increased and had come to pose “a grave threat to Taiwan”.

China produces much of its military hardware itself and purchases most of the rest from Russia, the report said. Among the elements of Beijing’s current arsenal are nuclear and conventional submarines, strategic bombers, stealth fighters, and ballistic and air defense missiles. …

(Excerpt) Read more at france24.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Government; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 2020; invasion; redchina; taiwan

1 posted on 10/09/2013 1:52:10 AM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: Olog-hai
China doesn't have enough people .. enough land .. it' needs / wants more ?

I don't get it.

2 posted on 10/09/2013 1:56:17 AM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true)
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To: Olog-hai
I think the Chinese will act the next time we get tangled up somewhere else.

That is one reason why things like the proposed Syria attack are so dangerous.

There might also be some co-ordination with North Korea to attack the South in order to further divert attention and make it impossible for the U.S. to control the situation.

3 posted on 10/09/2013 1:56:26 AM PDT by ClaytonP
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To: knarf

China views itself as central to Asia and all other Asian countries subservient to it. Thanks to the US, all other Asian countries have been able to thumb their noses at China.


4 posted on 10/09/2013 2:09:51 AM PDT by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults)
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To: Olog-hai

Taiwan, don’t worry, Obama is firmly behind you...snicker, snicker, snicker..

Obama” “...and I MEAN it”!!!


5 posted on 10/09/2013 2:22:10 AM PDT by Netz
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To: Olog-hai
Taiwan needs a few boombers running silently and deeply within range of mainland population centers.

Scorpion's tail.

6 posted on 10/09/2013 2:29:43 AM PDT by cynwoody
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To: Olog-hai

Since the unfree world wants the US to reduce nuke stockpiles...lets give some to Free China

The Free Trader Commies who support Free Trade with Communist China would whine like neutered poultry....but it would keep Communist Chinese aggression in check


7 posted on 10/09/2013 2:29:49 AM PDT by SeminoleCounty (Fact Is: GOPe want ObamaCare.)
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To: knarf

http://claudiajean.wordpress.com/a-comparison-of-taiwan-and-china/

Taiwan is an incredibly rich plum just off the coast. China wants it so China can loot it.


8 posted on 10/09/2013 2:52:36 AM PDT by Gen.Blather
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What, like they looted Hong Kong? Give me a break.

Here’s a country that’s been invaded multiple times and seen its people slaughtered - just like Russia. And people have the audacity to think they have no right to enforce a buffer zone of influence around their nations? That’s suicide.


9 posted on 10/09/2013 2:56:42 AM PDT by lafarge
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To: lafarge

So you think they should just be given Taiwan? Uh, NO.


10 posted on 10/09/2013 3:46:52 AM PDT by conservaterian (Time for a CONSERVATIVE party, but noooo, if we do that the libs will win !)
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To: Olog-hai

Be at ease, no worries, by 2020 Ted Cruz will be heading towards his 2d term as President, he’ll have your back.


11 posted on 10/09/2013 4:45:30 AM PDT by PoloSec ( Believe the Gospel: how that Christ died for our sins, was buried and rose again)
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To: lafarge

It’s more of a Hatfield/McCoy thing. Mao vs. Chaing kai shek.


12 posted on 10/09/2013 4:56:05 AM PDT by Spruce
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To: Olog-hai

Can China stand to lose the Three Gourges Dam? I don’t think so! China could lose millions and millions of people and not even blink but they can’t stand the loss of the electrical power the dam produces.


13 posted on 10/09/2013 5:15:38 AM PDT by WellyP (question!)
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To: knarf
You don’t get expansionist, imperialist world communism? When the Chinese constitution tells its citizens to “build socialism”, it doesn't mean Stalin’s “socialism in one country”.
Taiwan is part of the sacred territory of the People’s Republic of China. It is the lofty duty of the entire Chinese people, including our compatriots in Taiwan, to accomplish the great task of reunifying the motherland. In building socialism, it is imperative to rely on the workers, peasants and intellectuals and unite with all the forces that can be united. …

14 posted on 10/09/2013 9:36:10 AM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: Olog-hai

China will invade Taiwan before Obama’s term is over.

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Posted by Kevin OMalley to nickcarraway On News/Activism
01/12/2005 12:07:37 PM PST · 17 of 25
Here is my swag on what is going to happen in Taiwan, posted on an earlier thread,
“China Rapidly Modernizes for War With U.S.”.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1285398/posts

1) The one-child policy has created a testosterone-rich generation the likes of which no one on earth has ever seen. China will have an entire army of what they call “little dictators” who have few prospects of finding women, and they will be very aggressively pushing their old-guard superiors for action on the Taiwan issue. The final straw will be that they’ll be promised wives when they invade Taiwan.

2) Their army is as much as 200 Million strong, which was the size predicted in Revelation in the Bible, called “The Kings of the East.” They can afford casualties in the range of 10 million, which is 5 times bigger than our army ever was. China has some unfinished business with Vietnam, having fought to a standoff in 1979. They might do a run through Vietnam first so that their troups are more battle-hardened and arrogant, knowing that the US didn’t exactly win there. The added bonus is they get one of the largest warm water ports in the world.

3) Taiwan has never declared independence. It’s not like the brave Estonians standing up to Russia when communism fell. They’re like an impudent child claiming to have sovereignty over China. Their fatal miscalculation is that they know they’ll need Americans to fight for them if they are in a war, but Americans will be reluctant to shed blood for an ally that didn’t have the courage to declare independence until they were invaded on an “internal dispute”. The chinese will hammer away at this in the press.

4) Chinese weapons policy has been to cycle through older generations of weaponry and stay about one generation behind the latest stuff. They sold their old silkworm missiles to the Iranians and used that money to upgrade their newer missiles, which are inferior to US missiles but they only need to be functional. The plan is to overwhelm defenses with superior numbers. No ship can stand up to 50 supersonic silkworm missiles aimed at it. They have similar tactics for other systems, such as anti aircraft missiles.

5) The chinese went up against Americans in Korea. They sent in 300 thousand infantry up against a much smaller American force. The key was that they only had rifles for about 1 in 5 personnel. So they would tell one to go as far as he could till he got shot, then the 2nd one would pick up the rifle & keep charging, and so on. Today, every one of those infantrymen has an automatic rifle. They are not as well equipped as their US counterparts but they can afford a lot of casualties. Vietnam, Iraq, Somalia and other engagements proved that you can’t replace feet on the ground with air superiority. No matter how advanced the air force is nor how many smart bombs get dropped, the US won’t be able to dislodge a standing army without sending in massive troup numbers and experiencing casualties. If our press made a big deal about losing 1000 US soldiers in Iraq, they’ll have a heydey with 500 thousand casualties. Seeing the press reaction emboldens the Chinese.

6) China is building a blue-water navy including submarines. They might be able to achieve a standoff in the surrounding ocean, limiting the ability to resupply american troups while the chinese troups will pillage Taiwan. Once America loses 2 nuclear powered aircraft carriers (with the resulting radioactive plumes), the calculation is that the U.S. will lose stomach for more fighting.

7) The trick to defeating these strategies with minimal casualties will be special forces operating in Taiwan. They will need to have the ability to direct standoff weapons fire onto individual tanks and squad units in order to be effective.

8) The most likely outcome will be that Taiwan will be a giant pile of rubble. Casualties could run as high as WWII. If China wins, it could be a Pyrrhic victory. If the US wins, it will take a whole generation to repair and rebuild. I think the Chinese view towards weakness or perceived weakness is a little bit like how Germany viewed the U.S. after we sent 10,000 men wandering in the hills to find Pancho Villa, to no avail. The Germans perceived it as weakness and went ahead with their war plans.

9 posted on Sunday, September 23, 2007 9:47:37 PM by Kevmo (We should withdraw from Iraq — via Tehran. And Duncan Hunter is just the man to get that job done.)

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15 posted on 10/09/2013 5:57:28 PM PDT by Kevmo ("A person's a person, no matter how small" ~Horton Hears a Who)
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