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To: Paladin2

It has to happen. The country is functionally broke.

That my wealthy parents earn SS while my poor daughter pays in is totally stupid.

I know that I will be the guy who gets screwed in all of this.

But anyone who doesn’t think this will happen is smokin’ some really fine weed.


6 posted on 10/09/2013 10:18:51 AM PDT by Uncle Miltie (Need health care? Dial 1-800-F1UCK-YO to reach Obama's hotline)
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To: Uncle Miltie

The big trade needs to be that I get screwed, but my daughter is off the hook, and we kill Social Security as it is.

We can replace it with a welfare program for the poverty stricken elderly.

But my daughter stops paying into SS forever.

Deal?


16 posted on 10/09/2013 10:20:47 AM PDT by Uncle Miltie (Need health care? Dial 1-800-F1UCK-YO to reach Obama's hotline)
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To: Uncle Miltie
It has to happen. The country is functionally broke.

Gotta agree with that. The money ain't there and it ain't going to be coming in. However, it would be a good idea to make everybody on disability get re-evaluated every 3 years or so - along with an audit/cross reference on their earnings while they were "disabled".

19 posted on 10/09/2013 10:22:21 AM PDT by glorgau
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To: Uncle Miltie

I think that Means testing should be defined as income that isn’t coming from investments/interest.

If they include investments/interest then those of us who HAVE diligently saved are screwed. I’ve paid in the full amount for Social Security taxes since I was in my 20s...30+ years ago. I am OWED this money back in some fashion!


29 posted on 10/09/2013 10:25:48 AM PDT by fremont_steve
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To: Uncle Miltie
What you said: SS was always a welfare system, never a real social insurance system (which would require contributions to be tied to real benefits tables based on real actuarial data).

Germany is the only country I know of that has a real social insurance scheme, and it is very expensive because it accurately reflects the costs.

40 posted on 10/09/2013 10:30:14 AM PDT by pierrem15 (Claudius: "Let all the poisons that lurk in the mud hatch out.")
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To: Uncle Miltie

That your wealthy parents were forced to pay into a government retirement program under false pretenses is obscene.


57 posted on 10/09/2013 10:39:46 AM PDT by WhistlingPastTheGraveyard (If you don't stand up, you don't stand a chance.)
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To: Uncle Miltie

yeah, your parents didn’t work for their wealth or plan for their retirement and are just sitting pretty by luck


61 posted on 10/09/2013 10:42:09 AM PDT by silverleaf (Age takes a toll: Please have exact change)
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To: Uncle Miltie

Projected federal outlays for disabilities far exceeds SS payments. FIX THAT FIRST!


71 posted on 10/09/2013 10:45:15 AM PDT by Java4Jay (The evils of government are directly proportional to the tolerance of the people.)
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To: Uncle Miltie

When you keep supporting a larger & larger segment of the society who doesn’t contribute any taxes or any work, you will run out of money.

Attacking the successful to continuing supporting those with a hand out chronically for more & more is just plain wrong.

This country will GO GALT very soon.


85 posted on 10/09/2013 11:04:46 AM PDT by ridesthemiles
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To: Uncle Miltie
That my wealthy parents earn SS while my poor daughter pays in is totally stupid.

That you believe that says you still have a bit of liberal Democrat in you. If your parents paid in, they should have their payout. If they don't think it's fair to others, they can always refuse to take the checks. People are appalled when I say Bill Gates deserves his SS. He paid into it, so why not? Otherwise, it's just another wealth-transfer scheme.

86 posted on 10/09/2013 11:05:06 AM PDT by Cyber Liberty (It's hard to accept the truth when the lies were exactly what you wanted to hear.)
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