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King Defends Israel in Extraordinary House Debate (Michael Scheuer)
Hamodia Torah Jewry ^ | Oct 10, 2013 | Yochonon Donn

Posted on 10/11/2013 11:20:33 AM PDT by Ready4Freddy

WASHINGTON - Taking on one of the United States’ most prominent Israel critics Wednesday, Rep. Peter King, a New York Republican who is mulling a presidential run, defended the special relationship with Israel as essential for U.S. security.

The sparring came when, at a Homeland Security Committee hearing on the threat posed by Somali al-Qaida affiliate Al Shabaab, former CIA al-Qaida analyst Michael Scheuer said that al-Qaida would leave the U.S. alone if they were to abandon their alliance with Israel.

“If it was up to me I’d dump the Israelis tomorrow,” Scheuer said. “All I worry about is the continuing preaching of American politicians to the American people that our relationship with the Israelis doesn’t cause us to have dead Americans and extraordinary expenses in fighting the Muslim world.”

Interrupting Scheuer, King said that he believed the opposite, that al-Qaida’s grievances with the West are hundreds of years old and they would not stop their jihad against the United States even if it abandoned Israel.

“I think there’d be more of a cost if we stopped what we’re doing,” King said.

Scheuer told King that he was not the person to debate this, since as a member of the Republican party he was “presiding over a bankruptcy,” referencing the current fiscal crisis.

“What can be worse? And what has been the goal of al-Qaida since it was formed? To bankrupt the United States. Who’s winning today, sir? We’re done like dinner,” Scheuer said, who claimed that the U.S. military was “defeated” in Iraq and Afghanistan.

(Excerpt) Read more at hamodia.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; Government; Israel; News/Current Events; Russia; US: New York; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: alqaeda; alqueda; alshabaab; binladen; israel; michaelscheuer; newyork; osama; peterking; rinoking; somalia; somaliaalqaeda; waronterror

1 posted on 10/11/2013 11:20:33 AM PDT by Ready4Freddy
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To: SJackson

For the list


2 posted on 10/11/2013 11:21:17 AM PDT by Ready4Freddy
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To: Ready4Freddy

“Peter King, a New York Republican who is mulling a presidential run,...”

Mull away RINO...


3 posted on 10/11/2013 11:25:11 AM PDT by duckman (I'm part of the group pulling the wagon!)
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To: Ready4Freddy
...Rep. Peter King, a New York Republican who is mulling a presidential run...

An ice cube in hell has less chance of melting than this Progressive getting the nomination!

Sometimes, I think Scheuer s been dropped on his head too many times. He definitely has no love, or like, for Israel.

4 posted on 10/11/2013 11:27:22 AM PDT by Bushbacker1 (Molon Labe! (Oathkeeper))
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To: Ready4Freddy

The only lower life form than a muslim is our muslim president.

Nobody believes a muslim.

At all.

Ever.


5 posted on 10/11/2013 11:39:17 AM PDT by Da Coyote
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To: Ready4Freddy
From Wiki (citations omitted)...

King compared the leader of Sinn Féin, the political wing of the PIRA, Gerry Adams to George Washington, and asserted that the "British government is a murder machine"... However, he did not meet Adams until 1984.

Sums Mister King up quite up, eh what?

.

6 posted on 10/11/2013 11:39:29 AM PDT by Seaplaner (Never give in. Never give in. Never...except to convictions of honour and good sense. W. Churchill)
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To: Ready4Freddy

“former CIA al-Qaida analyst Michael Scheuer said that al-Qaida would leave the U.S. alone if they were to abandon their alliance with Israel.”

Apparently there is a damned good reason for him being a “former” analyst, I just can’t figure how someone this stupid was ever a current analyst.


7 posted on 10/11/2013 11:40:07 AM PDT by Mastador1 (I'll take a bad dog over a good politician any day!)
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To: Ready4Freddy

Screw King and his leftiness.


8 posted on 10/11/2013 11:40:16 AM PDT by b4its2late (A Liberal is a person who will give away everything he doesn't own.)
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To: b4its2late; duckman; Seaplaner

Odd that y’all have more concern about King than Scheuer.

Focus, try to focus.


9 posted on 10/11/2013 11:45:58 AM PDT by Ready4Freddy
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To: duckman
Rep. Peter King, a New York Republican who is mulling a presidential run

I think someone else is going to Cruz to victory in that race.

10 posted on 10/11/2013 11:52:40 AM PDT by tbpiper
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To: Ready4Freddy
Okay, focusing...focusing...there, got it.

Title of article...

King Defends Israel in Extraordinary House Debate (Michael Scheuer)

And, from the lead sentence in the article...

Taking on one of the United States’ most prominent Israel critics Wednesday, Rep. Peter King, a New York Republican who is mulling a presidential run...

Well gollllieee. This article is (arguably) more about King, n'est ce pas?

(Thanks for the nice lecture, however.)

.

11 posted on 10/11/2013 11:54:55 AM PDT by Seaplaner (Never give in. Never give in. Never...except to convictions of honour and good sense. W. Churchill)
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To: Ready4Freddy

Peter King is a New York RINO who, like all of them, takes a few positions conservatives can agree with, like standing up for the Israel-U.S. alliance, but is mostly to the left, as his current eagerness to fund Obamacare demonstrates. I suspect the RNC hierarchy may be considering King as a replacement for the obese and grating N.J. Governor Chris Christie in 2016. While King is a tad better choice he is hardly the person we need or want as the challenger to Hillary Clinton in ‘16. We’ve had enough RINO candidates to last us the rest of the 21st century.


12 posted on 10/11/2013 11:56:19 AM PDT by Jim Scott
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To: Ready4Freddy

“Scheuer told King that he was not the person to debate this, since as a member of the Republican party he was “presiding over a bankruptcy,” referencing the current fiscal crisis.”

Tells me all I need to know.

I wish somebody would have been there to say to him that the Muslims HAVE wanted to bankrupt America, and with the Muslim-in-Chief they are succeeding. Apparently with Scheuer’s blessing because he’s willing to tell the world it is the R’s, not Obama and the communist-Islamist alliance that illegally put him into power, who are destroying this country.

When will anybody ever have the guts to just come out and say it? Americans are waking up and realizing the emperor is not only naked but he’s the mistress of every freedom-hating communist and Muslim that ever walked. The freedom-loving Muslims in the Middle East have realized it and that’s why they have protested against Obama. Somebody needs to just finally come out and say it. And they should make sure to say that the media is the mistress of Obama and grovels to let him pimp them out to the freedom-haters too.

Time to call a spade a spade and let the chips fall where they will.


13 posted on 10/11/2013 11:56:44 AM PDT by butterdezillion (Free online faxing at http://faxzero.com/ Fax all your elected officials. Make DC listen.)
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To: Ready4Freddy
Exactly: how did an anti-Semitic leftist clown become a CIA analyst?

I mean, it's almost as though some left-wing bastard affirmative action recipient with dual citizenship and a long friendship with domestic terrorists could be elected President or something./s

14 posted on 10/11/2013 11:57:15 AM PDT by pierrem15 (Claudius: "Let all the poisons that lurk in the mud hatch out.")
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To: pierrem15

Scheuer’s CIA career started in the early-mid 80’s, and he was chief of the OBL Desk under Clinton.

Then special advisor to his successor, lol


15 posted on 10/11/2013 12:04:16 PM PDT by Ready4Freddy
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To: butterdezillion
King supported every bailout, TARP, medicare part d, iraq, Afghanistan, dhs, school loans, etc. Did he not?

Yes, we are broke, nor should be abandon Israel. But, that does not take away Rep. King's oversight of our demise fiscally.

We have been broke for years, and part of the problem is the GOP.

16 posted on 10/11/2013 12:05:29 PM PDT by Theoria
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To: Ready4Freddy

Aside from his postion on Israel, Peter King is probably the dumbest COngressman in Washington - and THAT says a lot. Right now, with Joe Lieberman and “Dollar Bill” Bradley out of office, he has no competition.


17 posted on 10/11/2013 12:05:53 PM PDT by ZULU (Impeach that Bastard Barrack Hussein Obama)
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To: Ready4Freddy

why is israel any more important to the national interest of the united states than laos or uruguay?

the sole guide post of the foreign policy of the united states should be our own national interest, period


18 posted on 10/11/2013 12:07:03 PM PDT by stonewall_jackson215
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To: Ready4Freddy

Scheuer must not care that Muslims have an equal hatred for Christians? I bet more Christians are being martyred today than Muslims or anyone else.


19 posted on 10/11/2013 12:15:38 PM PDT by huldah1776
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To: Ready4Freddy

Peter King is the horse Harry Reid rides.

Screw Harry Reid and the horse he rode in on.


20 posted on 10/11/2013 12:18:42 PM PDT by GilesB
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To: Ready4Freddy

I know who King is, I don’t know the other dude.


21 posted on 10/11/2013 12:41:45 PM PDT by b4its2late (A Liberal is a person who will give away everything he doesn't own.)
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To: b4its2late

Scheuer is the important one in the article.

Ex-CIA, Israel-hater, etc


22 posted on 10/11/2013 12:43:46 PM PDT by Ready4Freddy
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To: b4its2late

Michael Scheuer is actually pretty good. He’s one of those who have been sounding the alarm on the muslim brotherhood infection in our government long before many others were.

He was also about the first to warn that intervention in Libya would only help terrorists.

Peter King is the same old scumbag he’s always been.


23 posted on 10/11/2013 1:07:48 PM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: Theoria

I can’t argue with anything you just said.


24 posted on 10/11/2013 1:33:25 PM PDT by butterdezillion (Free online faxing at http://faxzero.com/ Fax all your elected officials. Make DC listen.)
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25 posted on 10/11/2013 2:37:11 PM PDT by SJackson (As a black man, you know, Barack could get shot going to the gas station, Michelle on Chicago)
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To: Ready4Freddy

Scheuer’s CIA career started in the early-mid 80’s, and he was chief of the OBL Desk under Clinton.

IINM, the 9/11 Commission contained a comment about the poor quality of resources and personnel at the CIA’s office in charge of watching bin Laden in the years before the attacks took place. And Scheuer was running the office then.


26 posted on 10/11/2013 6:08:38 PM PDT by eddiespaghetti ((with the meatball eyes))
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Thanks Ready4Freddy.
Michael Scheuer said that al-Qaida would leave the U.S. alone if they were to abandon their alliance with Israel... "All I worry about is the continuing preaching of American politicians to the American people that our relationship with the Israelis doesn't cause us to have dead Americans and extraordinary expenses in fighting the Muslim world." ... claimed that the U.S. military was "defeated" in Iraq and Afghanistan.
What's his FR nick?


27 posted on 10/12/2013 12:15:57 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (There certainly are some idiots.)
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To: Ready4Freddy
AlQaeda would love to divide and conquer... it's just one of their totalitarian tactics. King's a RINO but even a blind RINOS sometimes find the nut.
28 posted on 10/12/2013 1:43:02 PM PDT by GOPJ (Brieitbart sent me... Freeper newfreep)
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To: Ready4Freddy; cripplecreek; SJackson; Ezekiel; Nachum; Eleutheria5

““If it was up to me I’d dump the Israelis tomorrow,” Scheuer said.”

And maybe the jihadis he worships might let him take his head out of their koranus before they cut it off.

Peter King is a moron on the budget and other issues, but Mike Scheuer has been a jew-bashing, jihadi symp for ages.

I can find no website showing his exposure of the muslim brother=hood in the WH (I know Gaffney, Spencer and others have exposed it) but I did find numerous quotes by Scheuer on Israel having no right to exist.

REALLY? Israel should be exterminated?

Scheuer can F*CK himself up the rear with a koran or die choking on one for all I care. The man is a menace and an appeaser of jihad.

From wikipedia:

“In 2009, Scheuer reported that he had lost his position as a Senior Fellow with the Jamestown Foundation, after “several major financial donors to Jamestown threatened to withdraw funding” if he continued in that role.[16] The funding threats were pursuant to his criticism of Barack Obama’s “dancing the Tel Aviv two-step” in allegedly kowtowing to the Israeli lobby,”

OBAMA BENDS OVER TO ISRAEL?

ARE YOU FREAKING KIDDING ME? By doing what, not handing a nuke to Hezbullah to help them destroy Israel?

” as well as Scheuer’s disdaining of Obama’s selection as Chief of Staff of Rahm Emanuel, “a U.S. citizen who during the 1991 Gulf War left America to serve in Israel’s military.”[16]”

Rahm Emanuel is a douche who didn’t deserve to be COS any more than Obama deserves to be President, but Emanuel did NOT serve in the IDF during the Gulf War, he washed dishes, cleaned bed pans or tank treads in a TWO WEEK Sar-El volunteer program, which is open to ANY ISRAEL-SUPPORTING CHRISTIAN OR JEW who wishes to help Israel.

Here’s a hot tip for Scheuer and his defenders: WHEN THE JIHADIS GET THRU WITH THE JEWS, they are coming to kill all the genius “christians” like Scheuer and and no amount of “but I agreed with the you, the JOOS SUCK!” will keep then from cutting off his or his supporters heads.


29 posted on 10/13/2013 9:45:48 PM PDT by Yehuda (Pres Obortion, Sen.McAnus, & Hillary Rotten Clinton all kiss the *ss of the muslim brotherhood.)
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To: stonewall_jackson215

stonewall_jackson215 wrote:
“why is israel any more important to the national interest of the united states than laos or uruguay?”

Because they are the tip of our spear against the 13 century-long war WITH ISLAM.

And because Laos and Uruguay don’t have over a dozen companies on OUR NASDAQ like the Israelis do, and they don’t invent a good chunk of the tech and medical breakthroughs WE USE IN THIS COUNTRY that the Israelis do, and because our major tech companies like Intel and Microsoft haven’t done co-development deals worth BILLIONS with Laos and Uruguay like they have with Israel because Israel has the HIGHEST % / capita of PhD’s IN THE WORLD.

THATS why Israel is “more important to the national interest of the united states than laos or Uruguay”.

“the sole guide post of the foreign policy of the united states should be our own national interest, period”

SUPPORTING ISRAEL IS IN OUR NATIONAL INTEREST.


30 posted on 10/13/2013 9:46:42 PM PDT by Yehuda (Pres Obortion, Sen.McAnus, & Hillary Rotten Clinton all kiss the *ss of the muslim brotherhood.)
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To: Yehuda
And maybe the jihadis he worships

Thus proving yourself to be a moron right in the very first sentence. You don't have to like the guy buy lying like that is a liberal standard.

And BTW, when did I or anyone else ask to be pinged to your oh so important comment?
31 posted on 10/14/2013 4:22:04 AM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: Yehuda
SUPPORTING ISRAEL IS IN OUR NATIONAL INTEREST.

That statement tends to irk some people ping!

32 posted on 10/14/2013 3:12:18 PM PDT by Ezekiel (The Obama-nation began with the Inauguration of Desolation.)
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To: cripplecreek
"cripplecreek wrote: "And maybe the jihadis he worships"

Thus proving yourself to be a moron right in the very first sentence. You don't have to like the guy buy lying like that is a liberal standard.

Anyone like Scheuer who thinks America ought to cut off Israel AND who thinks Obama coddles Israel is in effect worshipping jihadis. He might as well be giving them BJs.

"And BTW, when did I or anyone else ask to be pinged to your oh so important comment?"

I included you in my reply because you gave him a pass on being a jackass because "He’s one of those who have been sounding the alarm on the muslim brotherhood infection in our government long before many others were."

and that I couldn't find anything to support that. Sorry you were so inconvenienced....

33 posted on 10/14/2013 9:34:21 PM PDT by Yehuda (Pres Obortion, Sen.McAnus, & Hillary Rotten Clinton all kiss the *ss of the muslim brotherhood.)
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