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Food stamp glitch leads to Wal-Mart stampede
MSN-Money ^ | October 14, 2013

Posted on 10/14/2013 10:18:42 AM PDT by BulletBobCo

Edited on 10/14/2013 12:20:51 PM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

Wal-Mart stores in Springhill and Mansfield, La., saw a stampede and a shelf-clearing rush Saturday after a computer glitch for food stamp recipients led to benefit cards allowing unlimited purchases.

Police were called as entire shelves were being cleared out, until the glitch was fixed and low-income residents using the cards were no longer allowed to make purchases.


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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events; US: Louisiana
KEYWORDS: ebt; walmart; welfarestate
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1 posted on 10/14/2013 10:18:42 AM PDT by BulletBobCo
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To: BulletBobCo

I think this was an Obama dry run


2 posted on 10/14/2013 10:19:29 AM PDT by al baby (Hi Mom ;Sarcasm is my bidness)
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To: BulletBobCo

“stampede” is one word. “riot” and “looting” are more descriptive words for what happened.


3 posted on 10/14/2013 10:19:31 AM PDT by JohnBrowdie (http://forum.stink-eye.net)
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To: BulletBobCo

“black Friday” Uh oh


4 posted on 10/14/2013 10:19:47 AM PDT by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: All armed conservatives.)
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To: BulletBobCo
Wal-Mart was so packed, 'it was worse than any black Friday' that he's ever seen.

I dunno. My guess is that it WAS a black Friday.

5 posted on 10/14/2013 10:20:32 AM PDT by Zuben Elgenubi
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To: BulletBobCo

so...I take it the Walmart employees let all this stuff walk out the door on our dime between 7 and 9?


6 posted on 10/14/2013 10:21:13 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Buckeye McFrog
so...I take it the Walmart employees let all this stuff walk out the door on our dime between 7 and 9?

What choice did they have? If my credit card company removes the cap on my limit, how is it up to Walmart to decide to limit my purchases?

7 posted on 10/14/2013 10:23:35 AM PDT by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
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To: JohnBrowdie

A stampede usually includes 4 hoofs and a tail, I’m not sure if that is true here or not? ;-)


8 posted on 10/14/2013 10:28:40 AM PDT by Average Al
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To: BulletBobCo

Walmart still tracked the transactions so the amounts can possibly be deducted from future debits ?


9 posted on 10/14/2013 10:30:20 AM PDT by erlayman
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To: Average Al

Go see some of the online “People of Wal-Mart” videos and see if that changes your mind.


10 posted on 10/14/2013 10:31:29 AM PDT by pfflier
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To: BulletBobCo

There should be no question that a sizable portion of EBT is the moocher class. But, if there was any doubt, and there is among the LIV’s...

Compare with DC rallies, where Tea Partiers are respectful of the grounds and pick up after themselves. Place is spotless afterwards. After Occupy-er leftist rallies, pre-printed collectivist signs strewn about and garbage (no doubt the refuse of EBT purchases nearby).

Give a group of TP’ers EBT cards with no limit, and most, likewise, would notify the store, notify the EBT administrators, and typically not run up their bills.


11 posted on 10/14/2013 10:32:50 AM PDT by C210N (When people fear government there is tyranny; when government fears people there is liberty)
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To: BulletBobCo

Wonder how many iPads and 65 inch TVs were ‘bought’.....................


12 posted on 10/14/2013 10:38:14 AM PDT by Red Badger (TANSTAAFL always wins. Always...........................)
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To: BulletBobCo

The “crack management staff” at Walmart saw what was going on and could have refused to honor these sales so let them suck up the potential loss.


13 posted on 10/14/2013 10:38:26 AM PDT by Average Al
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To: BulletBobCo

“From 7 to 9 p.m., people were loading up their carts, but when the cards began showing limits again around 9...”

So exactly what does this mean? Does this mean that those who shopped (stole) for two hours prior to the correction, and checked out managed to take the groceries home?


14 posted on 10/14/2013 10:39:39 AM PDT by OpusatFR
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To: trebb

EBT cards aren’t credit cards. They’re debit cards.

Try to spend a ‘no limit’ debit card and see what happens.

Once upon a time my bank had a glitch with their debit cards. Guess again if you think Kroger just let me take those groceries home on the honor system.

Being a decent (and apparently gullible) person I put all my items back though. I didn’t just leave the buggy full of stuff in the way in the front of the store.


15 posted on 10/14/2013 10:40:52 AM PDT by Black Agnes
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To: pfflier

Go see some of the online “People of Wal-Mart” videos and see if that changes your mind.
+++++++++
Those Cosco agitators sure are busy with their cameras.


16 posted on 10/14/2013 10:44:50 AM PDT by RetSignman (As Goes America, So Goes the World. A Communist America, A Communist World.)
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To: BulletBobCo

This story needs pictures and video. It sounds like the government inspired a black attack.


17 posted on 10/14/2013 10:46:13 AM PDT by pallis
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To: BulletBobCo

LSU Fans.


18 posted on 10/14/2013 10:51:52 AM PDT by demshateGod (The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.)
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To: pallis

There are some pictures on this thread.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3078610/posts


19 posted on 10/14/2013 10:57:08 AM PDT by Arrowhead1952 (The Second Amendment is NOT about the right to hunt. It IS a right to shoot tyrants.)
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To: pallis

Depends on what part of the country you live in. I have lived in regions where the Hispanic underclass lived in spotless little shack-like dwellings in communities with doorsteps scrupulously swept and tidy little plots of marigolds growing in tiny little flower boxes on each side and areas where the Black underclass worked hard to welcome everyone to their cheerful but humble little churches and pot lucks and visited shut-ins and saw to it the elderly had drivers to take them to medical appointments.
With Obama’s divisiveness I have seen more commentary on FR implying that Black people are THE takers when I have personally witnessed scamming, lying, stealing anywhere communities are comprised of broken homes and indifference to the education and prospects of the children regardless of race. Obama - the great divider.


20 posted on 10/14/2013 11:04:11 AM PDT by ransomnote
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To: ransomnote

Basic common sense is that for those who went over their ‘budget’, that amount should be deducted from future benefits.
Like common sense, LOL.


21 posted on 10/14/2013 11:11:02 AM PDT by Sarah
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To: ransomnote

The RATE of welfarism varies primarily by fatherlessness, which is highly correlated with race so far.

Blacks have more (2x - 3x) more bastard babies.


22 posted on 10/14/2013 11:28:27 AM PDT by Uncle Miltie ("So the minimum plan for obamacare is 100 bucks a month I like you Obama but nigga I'm broke")
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To: al baby

First no freeby cards work nationwide, then give the holderites in Springhill and Mantsfield “all yo can grabs” reparations.

Looks like nobama is stirring em up.

Now I know “Mantsfield” and Springhill, there are MANY holderites in both, they go on the warpath, I would not want to be there until here come the Rednecks.

Maybe nobama figures on calling Martial Law as Queen Sheila spilled the beans on the House Floo. After seeing how idiotic this WhiteyHut really is, don’t put anything past him, but Martial Law will not go the way nobama hopes.

Time to check ammo again!


23 posted on 10/14/2013 11:30:29 AM PDT by X-spurt (CRUZ missile - armed and ready.)
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To: BulletBobCo

Lousiana Walmarts looted.


24 posted on 10/14/2013 11:33:25 AM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: BulletBobCo
...they called corporate Wal-Mart, whose spokesman said to let the people use the cards anyway.

Well, the card holders should enjoy negative balances on their cards until next month when they get a reduced amount until the overages are made up. But, the state probably won't do it so next best thing: This idiot "spokesman" should have his/her paycheck garnished until the amount is satisfied.

25 posted on 10/14/2013 11:34:17 AM PDT by Cyber Liberty (It's hard to accept the truth when the lies were exactly what you wanted to hear.)
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To: BulletBobCo

I seriously doubt that many Freepers are suggesting that blacks are the only takers. Everyone without the moral and ethical conscience to respect private property and the rights of others are takers at some point. While poverty and the breakdown of families contributes to the problem, it in no way holds exclusive rights to it. We witnessed taking and thievery at its most extreme with the trading activities that led up to the housing collapse, lying and fraud unchecked, committed by the most privileged.

Still, and you knew a but was coming, the violence and moral corruption that is occurring within the black community is a statistical reality that can’t be brushed off by throwing it into the mixed bag of American culture. I live in an area where Hispanics make up more than 80 percent of the population, and there is plenty of thievery, gang violence—though it has been on the decline here—and living on the public dole, but it is absolutely nothing like what an equally distributed black community would experience. I can’t say what would happen at the local Walmart, given the same circumstances, but I doubt it would be anything like what happened in a black community. There is a breakdown in black culture, black communities, that black people and the media need to address, and not by blaming it on white man, or by claiming every other demographic is the same, because that isn’t true.

It is time to start calling black violence and crime what it is, a black responsibility.


26 posted on 10/14/2013 11:57:40 AM PDT by pallis
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To: BulletBobCo

THESE are the zombies that everyone is prepping for.


27 posted on 10/14/2013 11:59:05 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: Sarah

That’s what I was thinking -
Oh, you spent $700 on that evening?
Good, that’ll keep in you groceries for the next 10 months.

See ya then!


28 posted on 10/14/2013 12:00:54 PM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: Cyber Liberty; Average Al
The “crack management staff” at Walmart saw what was going on and could have refused to honor these sales so let them suck up the potential loss.

This idiot "spokesman" should have his/her paycheck garnished until the amount is satisfied.

As a part-time Walmart associate it's obvious to me that neither of you have been across the register from a 300 pounder and her teen sons when her card was denied. The sense of entitlement is like nothing you've seen from behind your keyboards. To my thinking the folks at Walmart avoided a riot by letting them pass.

Also, the "crack management staff" (including the spokesman) has no authority to override the state laws and computers that accept or decline the transactions. Doing so would have put the company in the unenviable position of having to publicly explain why they committed such a "racist" act AND violated state laws in the process. That's a lot to expect of a small town retail manager.

I know it's easy and fashionable to bash Walmart whenever it's convenient but you should know that because of what Walmart is they (we) have become a focal point for the culture wars and you'd do well to put yourself in their shoes before you spout off behind the comfort of your computer.

29 posted on 10/14/2013 12:15:15 PM PDT by ProfoundMan (Time to finish the Reagan Revolution!)
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To: ProfoundMan

There are no state laws, yet, forcing companies to hand out free food I am aware of. If there was, leftists would crash the system on a regular basis.


30 posted on 10/14/2013 12:19:00 PM PDT by GeronL
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To: MrB

yep

entitlement zombies


31 posted on 10/14/2013 12:19:32 PM PDT by GeronL
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To: ProfoundMan
To my thinking the folks at Walmart avoided a riot by letting them pass.

Quite possible. Leaving your sh**ty little comment about my keyboard aside, I hadn't thought of it from that angle, and I probably should have after seeing the video of the guy who popped a female clerk in the chops because she wouldn't sell him a cigar at a 41 cent discount. This bunch would have wrecked the store.

The best course probably would have been to just close the whole damned store, but that probably would have caused a riot too. Hard to say, because I just work these keyboard things for a living.

32 posted on 10/14/2013 12:22:17 PM PDT by Cyber Liberty (It's hard to accept the truth when the lies were exactly what you wanted to hear.)
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To: GeronL

Here’s a “profound” idea: Why don’t we just make all food “free” and tax the living crap out of the people who work to pay for it. Make it like health care.


33 posted on 10/14/2013 12:23:44 PM PDT by Cyber Liberty (It's hard to accept the truth when the lies were exactly what you wanted to hear.)
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To: ProfoundMan

I was at a grocery store Saturday when the EBT system went down across several states. Some black woman was screaming at the top of her lungs at the clerks until the manager came out and told her to leave.

She was too dumb to understand it had nothing to do with the store or her, her gubmint cheeze was denied because of a glitch during a backup of the system.

Oh, and I think she could have went about a month without eating and would have been in no danger from her size.

It was instructive how rapidly people can turn into animals.


34 posted on 10/14/2013 12:32:44 PM PDT by Brett66 (Where government advances, and it advances relentlessly , freedom is imperiled -Janice Rogers Brown)
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To: Cyber Liberty

lol

Aren’t we too close to that already?


35 posted on 10/14/2013 12:34:15 PM PDT by GeronL
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To: Brett66

The implosion of the welfare state won’t be pretty. There are 10s of millions who will have no understanding of how to live life without somebody else’s assistance.


36 posted on 10/14/2013 12:34:56 PM PDT by nascarnation (Frequently wrong but rarely in doubt....)
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To: GeronL
There are no state laws, yet, forcing companies to hand out free food I am aware of.

No, but I'd bet there are state laws about unilaterally declining purchases that have been approved by the state. There is no notification given at the register that the person is over their limit (save for the decline) nor is there even any notification that the person is using an EBT card unless there's a problem or they tell you. All the cashier knows is "the transaction was approved... next!"

37 posted on 10/14/2013 12:35:31 PM PDT by ProfoundMan (Time to finish the Reagan Revolution!)
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To: ProfoundMan

but the machines did not say the transactions did they? Then how did this problem even get noticed?


38 posted on 10/14/2013 12:38:11 PM PDT by GeronL
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To: ProfoundMan

but the machines did not say the transactions were approved did they? Then how did this problem even get noticed?


39 posted on 10/14/2013 12:38:22 PM PDT by GeronL
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To: GeronL

A checker no doubt told a customer and the stampede began.

FUBU nation is well connected.


40 posted on 10/14/2013 12:39:48 PM PDT by eyedigress ((zOld storm chaser from the west)/ ?s)
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To: Cyber Liberty; ProfoundMan

I have to agree. Walmart probably made the quick decision to essentially write off most of their dairy, meat, snacks and pops to avoid the looting of the *entire* store and perhaps dangerous violence visited on their employees and other customers.

Having the prize roasts, frozen treats and bags of shredded cheese walk out the door is preferable to a complete free for all including electronics, clothes household items, toiletries and everything else besides.

Bet the fresh veggie department was pristine though. Untouched.


41 posted on 10/14/2013 12:39:56 PM PDT by Black Agnes
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To: Cyber Liberty
The best course probably would have been to just close the whole damned store, but that probably would have caused a riot too.

Probably. It's a tough situation to deal with at the store level but rest assured that these type events are factored into the margin equations.

I just work these keyboard things for a living.

In my other life, so do I. I actually went to work at Walmart in part to get out of my cube and spend some time in the real world again. I'm decreasingly enchanted with that decision.

42 posted on 10/14/2013 12:40:53 PM PDT by ProfoundMan (Time to finish the Reagan Revolution!)
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To: Black Agnes
Bet the fresh veggie department was pristine though. Untouched.

You mean to tell me MooseChelle's people be disrespecting her nutrition guidance?

43 posted on 10/14/2013 12:42:30 PM PDT by nascarnation (Frequently wrong but rarely in doubt....)
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To: eyedigress

Within their sphere of concern, these people aren’t “dumb” per se, they are cunning and shrewd.

I’m betting someone knew they were low on their EBT and swiped it anyway, prepared to pay for the balance in another way, and it was approved.

Then she tried it again, then she phoned some friends & relatives, then they stampede began.


44 posted on 10/14/2013 12:43:09 PM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: MrB

I’m certain you are correct.
Those Obamaphones are handy for spreading the word quickly.


45 posted on 10/14/2013 12:44:11 PM PDT by nascarnation (Frequently wrong but rarely in doubt....)
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To: Brett66

i’ll stick up for wal mart on this one if a leech swipes his gimmie card on a 5000 dollar sale and the system ok’s it, its out of wal marts hands. i do think they need to dock future payments from the fine amish folks though, but that would be labeled racist.


46 posted on 10/14/2013 12:44:22 PM PDT by jneesy (rough seas make skillful sailors)
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To: MrB

Absolutely spot on. Correct to an uncomfortable extent. Especially the “cunning and shrewd” part.


47 posted on 10/14/2013 12:45:26 PM PDT by ProfoundMan (Time to finish the Reagan Revolution!)
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To: ProfoundMan
In my other life, so do I. I actually went to work at Walmart in part to get out of my cube and spend some time in the real world again. I'm decreasingly enchanted with that decision.

I do understand that. I have a friend who was a cocktail waitress on weekends for just that reason. After listening to some of her stories, I decided it wise to just stay with my keyboard and make as much money with it as I can. I never liked jobs where I have to "face the public" because there are too many jerks out there, but unlike the jerks I know here, those people will assault you.

48 posted on 10/14/2013 12:45:31 PM PDT by Cyber Liberty (It's hard to accept the truth when the lies were exactly what you wanted to hear.)
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To: jneesy

You are correct. Walmart does not run the EBT/SNAP program.

If lemonjello can buy 5000 bucks worth of food so be it. Jed Clampett is on the hook.


49 posted on 10/14/2013 12:51:36 PM PDT by eyedigress ((zOld storm chaser from the west)/ ?s)
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To: nascarnation

I can honestly say I’m one of those people who’s nosy about other people’s grocery carts. The only fruits/veg I can recall seeing in a black mom’s cart were apples and oranges. The occasional tomato or pepper. Never broccoli or cauliflower.

HOWEVER, around here most families get veg from someone in their family who invariably has a big garden and likes to garden. Most of the little old black people’s houses up and down my road has a plowed up section right this minute with the beginnings of a winter greens patch. Ditto most of the little old white people’s houses.

So it’s not clear why the veg department would be pristine.


50 posted on 10/14/2013 12:52:55 PM PDT by Black Agnes
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