Skip to comments.What’s The Worst Case Scenario For Obamacare?
Posted on 10/16/2013 1:16:16 PM PDT by 11th_VA
Consider for a moment what will come next for Obamacare, in the context of Ezra Kleins five thoughts on the disastrous launch of the program a bellwether of sorts for obamacare-logo_fullhow the administration failed to live up to the expectations it sold to the laws supporters and opinion leaders.
There are a few different directions it can go from here, but the worst case scenario hasnt really entered peoples consciences yet, in part because the insurers are staying quiet at the moment. The reality now is that the system is at least a month from actually working, and likelier two or (gasp) three, given the enormous range of problems. And that could make for a real disaster.
As it stands today, at most nine of the state exchanges are working but while some systems are being announced as fixed on the state level, fixed in this case means the ability to look at plans, not to actually enroll. And the fundamental breakdown for the federal exchange hangs on a decision designed to insulate people from the true cost of plans an approach which is now backfiring given the load it places on the website. The whole storyline is marked by a disturbing failure of basic technocracy: according to the New York Times, as late as the last week of September, HHS officials were still debating aspects of the site, including that requirement making customers register before shopping for insurance.
Democrats are scrambling for excuses: there wasnt enough money or time. The decision to delay controversial regulations til after the 2012 election slowed the process. The Republican governors ruined efforts by opting not to implement exchanges. The suggestion that cronyism played a role in the contractor process is already being advanced. But cronyism or no, the decision of those at CMS/HHS to take the lead in organizing the program despite an enormous absence of institutional experience may be the real source of the problem. Megan McArdle outlines the reality:
"Im a longtime critic of federal contracting rules, which prevent some corruption at ruinous expense in money, quality and speed. But federal contracting rules are not what made the administration delay writing the rules and specifications necessary to build the system until 2013. Nor to delay the deadline for states to declare whether theyd be building an exchange, in the desperate hope that a few more governors might decide in February 2013! to build a state system after all. Any state that decided to start such a project at that late date would have had little hope of building anything that worked, but presumably angry voters would be calling the governor instead of HHS. Federal contracting codes, so far as I am aware, do not emit intoxicating gases that might have caused senior HHS officials to decide that it was a good idea to take on the role of lead contractor a decision equivalent to someone who has never even hung a picture deciding that they should become their own general contractor and build a house. Nor can those rules explain their lunatic response when they were told that the system was not working failure was not an option.
But whether these excuses work with the public or not, the worst case scenario for Obamacare is now entering the realm of possibility: what if it just doesnt work, and continues not to work, a month from now? The deadlines for achieving coverage are approaching fast. The political reality is that its impossible to legally require people to sign up for something when the system just wont let them. If a month from now we are still seeing a fail rate of significance within these systems, where people trying to enroll are turned away as often (or more often!) than they get through, the pressure from non-partisan actors is going to explode for a delay of major aspects of the law. It will be a murmur at first, but if it continues to grow, there will have to be a Congressional response.
One factor to consider here is that the consultants involved for the federal and state exchanges have a good deal of overlap. It would be one thing if it were just a few states having issues they could prioritize the major states over the minor ones but the fact that the problems are worst for the federal exchange means none of the states are going to get significant attention until thats taken care of. This could mean smaller states get attention last, leaving their citizens incapable of purchasing the coverage theyre legally required to get. The potential for legal challenges coming out of this is massive if the mandate/penalty is not delayed. But to solve the practical problem requires steps beyond just the individual mandate delay or extending open enrollment for the entire year were talking about actually taking the exchanges offline (insurers would presumably honor the handful of plans already sold through them) in order to fix them. That process could take months of work and millions more in taxpayer dollars and set us up to do this whole thing again in October of 2014.
So whats the worst case scenario? Honestly, its this: if this is as big of a failure as it looks like at the moment, and the problems are not fixed within the next two months, the Obamacare project could end up backfiring in a way that could have dramatic effects on politics and policy going forward. It will contribute to distrust in governments basic capability. It will fail to live up to its promise, and wreck the insurance markets for no good purpose. It will represent the administration betraying its strongest supporters. And it may ultimately leave President Obama wishing John Roberts had ruled the other way turning him into a martyr for the cause as opposed to putting the burden of proof on actually implementing his signature policy.
It imposes a 29 1/2 hour work week, what do you think that will do to America?
Come late December, Obama could be asking for a 1 year delay in the ‘Individual Mandate’. The GOP shud say, “let’s negotiate - what else are you offering ...” LOL !!!!
The worse case scenario?
Give it 6 months and you will be soaking in it, Madge.
Divorced parents will be sunk first.
Existing child support orders are 25 to 50 % of net income (if they are behaving)
The extra load will put them under n droves.
Where do you even start?
turning him into a martyr for the cause
The day he becomes a detriment to the party
he WILL be martyred, communists are like that.
It destroys the American economy.....
There is no downside - it is all sweetness, good intentions and “healthcare for all.”
Problems will be minimized or not mentioned at all. Instead, the media will talk about nasty Ted Cruz, or twerking.
We all die...................
Everyone, collectivist and conservative, is looking to the government to fix this.
That is wrong thinking. There are no wise people in government.
Real thinking people outside of the beltway need to come up with solutions to this mess, and just do it without government.
The only thing worse than this crap legislation not working is this crap legislation working. Americans will be better off if this idiotic administration never makes it work.
ObamaCare guideS watching porn spread virus shutting down ObamaCare,HHS, insurance companies....
Fool. Doesn’t he know the press will spin this as the Republicans’ fault?
Some things like our food supply, our economy, religion, and health care are too important to trust government with.
Always said...best thing that could have happened to Barry would be if SCOTUS had struck it down. He could have then just walked away, told his supporters “I tried!” and blamed it all on John Roberts.
Worst case? It is implemented, destroys the economy, and what remaining power held by Congress is transferred to the Executive by all the “shall determines” in it.
“Come late December, Obama could be asking for a 1 year delay in the Individual Mandate.”
He won’t ask. He will just do it and nobody in Congress will stop him.
Obamacare IS the worse case scenario.
It will be the turd-worlding of America and 0bumble will have achieved his goal.
Cats and dogs living together...pretty much all the worst parts from the Bible.
Single payer only happens if a convincing argument can be made that the private sector/corporatist option failed.
Healthcare.gov is simply collapsing too fast to pin the blame on the healthcare industry. Obama and the Dems OWN it. Come next year they’re going to be begging for the very delay the Republicans lost trying to bring about.
First of all, it’s not a healthcare bill. It’s an insurance program.
When all of these people get insurance, where do you think they are going to go for care? There are no doctors. And they will be camping out at the Community Hospital ERs. They will not pay their co pays or deductibles. Hospitals will have to eat that.
Community hospitals will shut down because of increased cost and less income.
That’s just the medical side.
Let me modify that. They won't beg for any delay, they'll simply change the law to suit them and delay it themselves.
There's a good purpose for wrecking private insurance markets? Really?
Make no mistake, the congressional “fix” will be single payer.
This was all planned.
As MANDATORY, 0bamacare website will register MILLIONS of illegal-aliens-turned-U.S.-citizens to the DEMOCRAT party.
The devil has a keen wit by getting a protected negro to do the enslaving.
Refuse to negotiate.
After the names good people have been called by Obama.
After Reid’s insults to the other party.
After the libel against the Tea Party.
After the disrespect shown to military families.
After the disrespect leveled at veterans.
After the accusations against the Catholics and their church.....
and on and on
I would not lift a finger to save the dirty democrat progressive socialists that have brought this to the people. Nothing.
I don't believe HE will do anything. He is incapable of making a decision and will continue to fiddle in denial while healthcare burns.
I'll bet a bottle of good liquor (your/my choice) that the exchanges will still not be working March 31, 2014. I've seen software project meltdowns before, and this one is a doozie! They are going to have to trash the whole thing and redesign/rewrite from scratch.
In general, I still prefer free markets to government control.
“will still not be working March 31, 2014. I’ve seen software project meltdowns before, and this one is a doozie! They are going to have to trash the whole thing and redesign/rewrite from scratch. “
And are you certain this can’t be written from scratch in that time?
Well, sure. And they prefer artificial “forced” markets above all.
And let’s be honest here, we have no “free market” for health CARE at all - and that would be quite difficult to create/maintain. And really, that’s the crux of the cost issue.
What happens if you refuse to go along?
The IRS dings you and not only do you owe the government money, but you don't have any healthcare coverage. Cute system.
I’m no computer expert, but there’s not enough bandwidth to handle anything close to routine traffic.
The worst case scenario of O-Care is exactly what Obama would like to see happening.
Mission accomplished — another nail in the US coffin.
You gotta be an industrial strength optimist-—March 31 is half a year away!!. If it lasts anywhere near that long I’ll bring a bottle over and we’ll share it while it eats itself the rest of the way. I don’t see needing more than one bottle when this hermaphrodite starts eating its own skin-—it just won’t take long.
One party rule is here.
Did you accidentally comment on the wrong thread? No indication that insufficient bandwidth has anything to do with the website failures. However, they'd love for that to be the case since it would be so easy to fix.
Why should he ask? He didn’t ask for the employer mandate delay. His Imperial Majesty King Stompyfoot the Bamster will simply issue a decree.
Other than your death?
Boycott the lamestream media. Cancel your Comcast/NBC cable subscription. And avoid businesses that employ ‘ill eagles’.
Even if the web site gets fixed, enrollment will be dismal especially among the younger generation. Given low enrollment due to the high cost and questionable access to the promised subsidies coupled with the likely repeal of some of the new taxes funding Obamacare, the system will go broke in a year and even more people will be without health insurance. The Democrats fix will be to pass a single payer socialized medicine plan of course exempting Congress and government officials who will enjoy a Cadillac plan unavailable to the peons.
Simple question. No one signs up.