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The word Jesus on a grave stone in a cemetery might offend people? Now I have heard it all
1 posted on 10/23/2013 6:08:57 AM PDT by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

Not yet! It will get worse.


2 posted on 10/23/2013 6:12:55 AM PDT by RobbyS (quotes)
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might offend people?

Exactly. The name Jesus does offend people. We are promised that. So what?

3 posted on 10/23/2013 6:12:58 AM PDT by Gamecock (Many Atheists take the stand: "There is no God AND I hate Him.")
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Desecration by omission... another liberal game.


4 posted on 10/23/2013 6:12:58 AM PDT by lavaroise
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He was being offended for someone he didn’t know existed.


5 posted on 10/23/2013 6:14:19 AM PDT by AppyPappy (Obama: What did I not know and when did I not know it?)
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Just curious. . .who was the first person to deny the request, and was this person perhaps a) atheist or b) muslime.

Just asking. . .


6 posted on 10/23/2013 6:15:49 AM PDT by Hulka
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She said city officials kept telling them that people would be offended by the name of Christ.

So, they don't allow many Hispanics to be buried there, eh?.....................

7 posted on 10/23/2013 6:17:07 AM PDT by Red Badger (TANSTAAFL always wins. Always...........................)
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‘Jesus’, swastika. Those are exactly the same thing.


10 posted on 10/23/2013 6:19:52 AM PDT by Black Agnes
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Linda Baker lost her battle with cancer last week. She was the wife of Mark Baker, the pastor of Harvest Baptist Church in Ovid. Adams said her mother-in-law was passionate about her Christian faith and her family. Her final wish was to have her cemetery marker engraved with the ichthys, a symbol of early Christianity. She also wanted the word ‘Jesus’ written inside the fish.

“At first they told us it wouldn’t fit,” Adams told me. “But after we kept pushing them the cemetery director told us that it might offend somebody. They weren’t going to allow it.” The family was devastated and asked the cemetery director to reconsider. He refused. “He said, ‘What if somebody wanted to put a swastika?” she recounted. “My reply was, so what if they do? It’s not my business how they want to be remembered”....[Sterling Colorado] City Manager Joe Kiolbasa told 9news.com they would no longer censor religious references on headstones and cemetery markers. He said the cemetery manager made a mistake.

Ping for later

12 posted on 10/23/2013 6:22:29 AM PDT by Alex Murphy (Just a common, ordinary, simple savior of America's destiny.)
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Obama made certain that Osama(’s double) got full rights,
as did the switched remains of US veterans KIA,
cursed before their families by Obama’s chosen Imam.


13 posted on 10/23/2013 6:23:36 AM PDT by Diogenesis
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Wait for the day when all the gravestones with any Christian or Jewish acknowledgement are taken down. Most before the 1930s had scripture on them or references to the Lord and heaven. All the stones of our military will have the crosses and star of David removed.


14 posted on 10/23/2013 6:27:06 AM PDT by huldah1776
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This is why this country is done for. Liberals and illegals infesting virtually every part of this country.

Their first inclination and duty is not ‘work’; it is in infecting all levels of government and the rule of law to rid their sensibilities of God, Christ, Jesus, Patriotism, Sovereignty and Honor. Atheists, Muslims, Agnostics and Humanists all.

Their allegiance is to evil, nothing more.


15 posted on 10/23/2013 6:27:10 AM PDT by Gaffer
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As I repeatedly point out to those I know of either no religion, or a non Christian religion, if they think this has nothing to do with them, they are very much mistaken. After the state is done with the “offensive” Christians, they will be next.

But, as always, they are stupidly clueless.


16 posted on 10/23/2013 6:27:17 AM PDT by ChildOfThe60s ((If you can remember the 60s.....you weren't really there)
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Seems like the city should not be in the business of owning cemeteries, except maybe for the burial of indigent or paupers or whatever the terminology is.


18 posted on 10/23/2013 6:28:28 AM PDT by NEMDF
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The underlying problem here is government intrusion into religious *sacraments*. Unless religions put their foot down and reject government involvement, they will discover themselves entirely co-opted by government.

Marriage has been taken away from religion (and corrupted) by government. As has the registration of birth, now by the government instead of churches. Now burial is being taken away (and as this article notes, they are trying to corrupt it).

Government *definitely* wants to involve itself with confession (”Or else the terrorists win!”), by monitoring what is said directly, or at least by being able to legally coerce priests, pastors and ministers to break the privacy of the confessional (like the government broke doctor-patient privacy with the HIPAA Act (thank you, W. Bush)).

I imagine also that administering last rites to the dying will be taken away from clergy, likely because of euthanasia. Since murderous medical people can kill at the time of their choosing, they will choose to do so, involuntarily, when there are no witnesses around, especially clergy.

I just wonder how the government will try to horn in to the rites of Baptism, Confirmation and the Eucharist?


19 posted on 10/23/2013 6:28:42 AM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy (Welfare is the new euphemism for Eugenics.)
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The city probably relented after consulting with their city counsel. They clearly stated 'someone might be offended'.
The Colorado Constitution would have been the only thing necessary for the pastor to win in court:

Article II
Section 4;
The free exercise and enjoyment of religious profession and worship, without discrimination, shall forever hereafter be guaranteed; and no person shall be denied any civil or political right, privilege or capacity, on account of his opinions concerning religion; but the liberty of conscience hereby secured shall not be construed to dispense with oaths or affirmations, excuse acts of licentiousness or justify practices inconsistent with the good order, peace or safety of the state. No person shall be required to attend or support any ministry or place of worship, religious sect or denomination against his consent. Nor shall any preference be given by law to any religious denomination or mode of worship.

22 posted on 10/23/2013 6:30:45 AM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts (So Obama "inherited" a mess? Firemen "inherit" messes too. Ever see one put gasoline on it?)
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What kind of malicious, godless, slop-sucking heathen would object to a dying woman’s last wishes?

"Slop sucking heathens", now that's creative!

23 posted on 10/23/2013 6:31:10 AM PDT by Graybeard58 (_.. ._. .. _. _._ __ ___ ._. . ___ ..._ ._ ._.. _ .. _. .)
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"..Sterling City Manager Joe Kiolbasa told 9news.com they would no longer censor religious references on headstones and cemetery markers. He said the cemetery manager made a mistake.

This gentleman thought it may have been objectionable to someone because of the Christian connotation, Kiolbasa told the television station. It will be allowed in the future..”

This is just sooo wrong on a few fronts. And I ain't even what you'd call a "good Christian". Sounds like these azzhats want folks to come 'round with their hats in their hands asking permission from en high to show their beliefs. And I like the way they blamed it on the "low level" cat instead of the whole chain of city leaders who participated in this debacle.

This chit's gettin' old. Quickly.

24 posted on 10/23/2013 6:35:21 AM PDT by CopperTop
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And comparing Jesus to a swastika??!!

This monster’s head needs to roll and he needs to be at the back of the unemployment line. He needs to be reminded daily of what he said.


26 posted on 10/23/2013 6:49:40 AM PDT by Cowgirl of Justice
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If they said it was a tribute to their illegal alien uncle who just wanted the Dream Act to pass,but died before seeing it pass due to evil tea party types, it would be applauded and probably engraved for free.


28 posted on 10/23/2013 7:03:41 AM PDT by TurboZamboni (Marx smelled bad & lived with his parents most his life.)
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I just went on the Sterling City Colorado contact page and sent a note to the city manager asking why the cemetery manager hasn't been fired yet for equating "Jesus" with a swastika.

Contact Page

29 posted on 10/23/2013 7:05:27 AM PDT by Washi
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