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NRA President James Porter on the job of police: No duty to protect
The Daily Caller ^ | 10/23/2013 | James W. Porter II

Posted on 10/25/2013 11:41:25 AM PDT by neverdem

As NRA members, one of our key roles in defending liberty is to educate people who have little understanding of the real meaning of the Second Amendment. And often our responsibility is to dissect the biggest lies of the gun-ban crowd—among them, the notion that individuals don’t need guns to protect themselves because that’s the job of the police.

“… a government and its agents are under no general duty to provide public services, such as police protection, to any particular individual citizen.”

“The duty to provide public services is owed to the public at large, and, absent a special relationship between the police and an individual, no specific legal duty exists.”

Those are the opinions of the District of Columbia Superior Court and the D.C. Court of Appeals issued in 1978 and 1981 blocking a suit by three young women who had been raped and beaten for 14 hours during a nightmarish home invasion in 1975. Two of the women had repeatedly called the D.C. police. They watched a police car slowly roll by their townhouse after their first call for help, then were told help was on its way in subsequent calls, when indeed it was not.

The decisions in that case, Warren v. District of Columbia, came at a time when D.C. was still enforcing its ban on firearms in the home for self-defense.

The decision by those lower courts in Warren mirrored decades of U.S. Supreme Court precedents. The latest high-court opinion declaring police have no duty to protect ordinary citizens was handed down in June 2005.

All this gives the lie to the gun-ban crowd’s mantra: “let law enforcement protect you.”

The simple truth is, were individual citizens owed an absolute duty to individual protection by police, no law enforcement agency in the nation could exist because of the glut of litigation claiming violation of individuals’ rights to police protection.

Admittedly, the circumstances that have led to some lawsuits against police departments involve horrendous indifference by police, but if a duty is owed in one awful situation marked by incompetence, it is owed in all cases by all law enforcement officers. And that is the rub.

Duty to protect? Police officers simply cannot be everywhere a crime of violence is occurring. Most of the time, their job is to investigate, pursue criminals and make arrests after a crime has been committed.

I don’t know who originated the notion that “when seconds count, the police are minutes away,” but it defines why the individual right to keep and bear arms is such a core right today. In rural areas, those minutes might be hours.

The question our friends and neighbors and fellow gun owners should ask is:

Who, then, protects you if the police have no duty to do so?

The answer is, You do. Responsible members of your family do. Neighbors do.

Had the young women in the Warren case been armed, they could have defended themselves. But at the time, such armed self-defense was a crime in Washington, D.C.

That was the issue finally decided by the U.S. Supreme Court in its landmark June 2008 Heller decision striking down the D.C. handgun ban and the city’s “prohibition against rendering any lawful firearm in the home operable for the purpose of immediate self-defense.”

In his ringing majority defense of the Second Amendment, Associate Justice Antonin Scalia wrote, “The handgun ban amounts to a prohibition of an entire class of ‘arms’ that is overwhelmingly chosen by American society for that lawful purpose. The prohibition extends, moreover, to the home, where the need for defense of self, family and property is most acute.”

That remarkable decision was followed by the high court’s June 2010 majority opinion in McDonald v. Chicago, which extended the protection of the Second Amendment in Heller to every corner of the nation.

People need to understand that the Second Amendment preserves their choice to defend themselves with arms against criminal violence.

The gun-ban crowd always assumes that people are stupid. Given the truth—the facts—most Americans will begin to understand the personal meaning of the Second Amendment.

If there is a “duty to protect,” it is our duty as members of the NRA to protect the Second Amendment. We can do that with our votes; by exercising the First Amendment and one-on-one convincing friends, co-workers and neighbors of the truth of our cause. That must be a major part of our mission. It is mine.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Editorial; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: banglist; guncontrol; secondamendment
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1 posted on 10/25/2013 11:41:25 AM PDT by neverdem
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To: neverdem

Cops carry guns for their protection, not your’s. That is the bottom line.


2 posted on 10/25/2013 11:45:51 AM PDT by toolman1401
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To: neverdem

Hmmm.... That is not what I learned on 1 Adam 12

3 posted on 10/25/2013 11:50:08 AM PDT by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... Travon... Felony assault and battery hate crime)
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To: neverdem

4 posted on 10/25/2013 11:51:00 AM PDT by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: neverdem

“Individual fire extinguishers will be outlawed because we have complete Fire Departments for fighting fires.”
Same logic as private ownership of arms being outlawed because we already have Police Departments for protection!


5 posted on 10/25/2013 11:56:20 AM PDT by fishnuts2 (Liberals are anything except liberal.)
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To: neverdem

“The gun-ban crowd always assumes that people are stupid.

The people who vote for the gun ban politicians ARE stupid.


6 posted on 10/25/2013 12:05:28 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (From time to time the.tree of liberty must be watered with the blood of tyrants and patriots.)
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To: neverdem

Police 99.9% of the time arrive at a crime scene.

i.e. to clean up what’s left of you.


7 posted on 10/25/2013 12:08:19 PM PDT by VanDeKoik
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To: neverdem

IMO ... too many LE agencies have become a liability to the general public. Instead of serve and protect LE has become “too harass and too shakedown”. Either LE polices itself ... which it has shown it is loathe to do ... or the public polices it via citizens groups or re-build it from the ground up into what it was meant to be ... we can start by holding individual officers personally responsible for egregious mis-conduct ... eliminating the militarization of local LE and remove any incentive for LE to be a government “revenue enhancement” agency.


8 posted on 10/25/2013 12:16:09 PM PDT by clamper1797 (Evil WILL flourish when good men WILL not act)
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To: VanDeKoik

Yes, the police are crime historians.


9 posted on 10/25/2013 12:17:44 PM PDT by Trailerpark Badass (There should be a whole lot more going on than throwing bleach, said one woman.)
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To: neverdem

Police: Canine Death Panels


10 posted on 10/25/2013 12:27:38 PM PDT by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: All armed conservatives.)
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To: toolman1401

They must be feeling pretty unsafe then.

11 posted on 10/25/2013 12:41:16 PM PDT by RC one
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To: neverdem

Were I live we only dial 911 for carcass removal.


12 posted on 10/25/2013 12:44:15 PM PDT by Beagle8U (Free Republic -- One stop shopping ....... It's the Conservative Super WalMart for news .)
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To: neverdem

BEST BUMPER STICKER EXTANT...

‘I CARRY A GUN BECAUSE A COP’S TO HEAVY!’


13 posted on 10/25/2013 12:51:28 PM PDT by jimsin
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To: neverdem
I always thought this was common knowledge, but apparently not.
14 posted on 10/25/2013 1:00:00 PM PDT by stayathomemom (Beware of kittens modifying your posts.)
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To: neverdem

What is their job, then?


15 posted on 10/25/2013 1:24:07 PM PDT by TBP (Obama lies, Granny dies.)
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To: neverdem
 
 
The decision by those lower courts in Warren mirrored decades of U.S. Supreme Court precedents.
 
Yep, and here are some of them:
 
Riss v. City of New York, 22 N.Y.2d 579, 293 NYS2d 897, 240 N.E.2d 860 (N.Y. Ct. of Ap. 1958)
 
Keane v. City of Chicago, 98 Ill. App.2d 460, 240 N.E.2d 321 (1968)
 
Silver v. City of Minneapolis, 170 N.W.2d 206 (S.Ct. Minn. 1969)
 
Simpson's Food Fair v. Evansville, 272 N.E. 2d 871 (Ind.Ct. of Ap. 1971)
 
Sapp v. City of Tallahassee, 348 So.2d 363 (Fla.Ct. of Ap. 1977)
 
Weutrich v. Delia, 155 N.J. Super 324, 326, 382 A.2d 929, 930 (1978)
 
Chapman v. City of Philadelphia, 434 A.2d 753 (Sup.Ct. Penn. 1981)
 
Warren v. District of Columbia, 444 A.2d 1 (D.C. Ct. of Ap., 1981)
 
Davidson v. City of Westminster, 32 C.3d 197, 185 Cal.Rptr. 252, 649 P.2d 894 (S.Ct. Cal. 1982)
 
Bowers v. DeVito, 686 F.2d 61 (7th Cir. 1982)
 
Morgan v. District of Columbia, 468 A.2d 1306 (D.C. Ct. of Ap. 1983)
 
Morris v. Musser, 478 A.2d 937 (1984)
 
Calogrides v. City of Mobile, 475 So.2d 560 (S.Ct. A;a. 1985)
 

16 posted on 10/25/2013 1:37:12 PM PDT by lapsus calami (What's that stink? Code Pink ! ! And their buddy Murtha, too!)
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17 posted on 10/25/2013 1:41:35 PM PDT by Rodamala
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To: bert; All

You may want to read this link:

http://www.nytimes.com/2005/06/28/politics/28scotus.html?_r=0


18 posted on 10/25/2013 2:38:04 PM PDT by Red in Blue PA (When Injustice becomes Law, Resistance Becomes Duty.-Thomas Jefferson)
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To: harpseal; TexasCowboy; nunya bidness; blackie; AAABEST; Travis McGee; Squantos; wku man; SLB; ...
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19 posted on 10/26/2013 2:54:44 AM PDT by Joe Brower (The "American People" are no longer capable of self-governance.)
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To: Rodamala

“To oppress and extort” also works


20 posted on 10/26/2013 6:29:03 AM PDT by from occupied ga (Your government is your most dangerous enemy)
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