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Healthcare.gov may be a 'black swan'
Computerworld.com ^ | 10/25/2013 | Patrick Thibodeau

Posted on 10/25/2013 3:43:13 PM PDT by Ramius

One in six IT projects face out of control costs, and bring much disruption, making them 'black swans'

WASHINGTON - Despite partisan sniping over the Affordable Care Act, members of a U.S. House committee probing the problems at Healthcare.gov Thursday asked some tough, IT-specific questions that revealed some key facts.

Two members of the House Energy and Commerce Committee, U.S. Reps. Greg Walden (R-Ore.) and Anna Eshoo (D-Calif.), were especially focused on the testing process for the ACA website that's had problems since its launch on Oct. 1.

It turns out that project's 55 contractors had only two weeks to conduct end-to-end testing of Healthcare.gov prior to launch.

"What's the recommended industry standard for end-to-end testing," asked Walden.

"Months would be nice," said Andrew Slavitt, executive vice president of Optum, one of the contractors that built the site. Cheryl Campbell, senior vice president of CGI Federal and a witness, perhaps the largest contractor on the project, agreed with Slavitt.

The contractors for the site all said they performed their part of the project as required while making it clear that they weren't responsible for the overall outcome of Healthcare.gov.

None could say, with any certainty, when the website will perform as designed. There was no one from the federal government to explain the project's IT decision-making, though federal officials are expected to testify as early as next week.

The problems at Healthcare.gov may qualify as a black swan event, something that's difficult to predict and is disruptive. A black swan event in Mother Nature might include a solar geomagnetic storm that knocks out sensitive electronics and power grids. In IT, a black swan event is a project with out-of-control costs, and consequences so severe that it may cause a company to fail.

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I'm not sure it's technically a Black Swan... Inasmuch as they're supposed to be difficult to predict in advance. With over 50 contractors and a design by committee, I think you don't have to be Nostradamus to have seen this train wreck coming.
1 posted on 10/25/2013 3:43:13 PM PDT by Ramius
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A complex system that works is invariably found to have evolved from a simple system that worked. The inverse proposition also appears to be true: A complex system designed from scratch never works and cannot be made to work. You have to start over, beginning with a working simple system. --Gall's Law
2 posted on 10/25/2013 3:44:38 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Who knew that one day professional wrestling would be less fake than professional journalism?)
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The comments are interesting. It lasts a whole six or seven posts before it devolves into partisan bickering.


3 posted on 10/25/2013 3:45:08 PM PDT by Ramius (Personally, I give us one chance in three. More tea anyone?)
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The only bird who couldn't have seen it coming was this one...
4 posted on 10/25/2013 3:45:31 PM PDT by JediJones (The #1 Must-see Filibuster of the Year: TEXAS TED AND THE CONSERVATIVE CRUZ-ADE)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Yep. Make it work on index cards first. If an analog system can’t be made to work... The digital version will just find failure quicker.


5 posted on 10/25/2013 3:48:02 PM PDT by Ramius (Personally, I give us one chance in three. More tea anyone?)
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6 posted on 10/25/2013 3:49:35 PM PDT by JoeProBono (SOME IMAGES MAY BE DISTURBING VIEWER DISCRETION IS ADVISED;-{)
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To: Ramius
The Medicare site has been up for years. They could have piggy-backed onto it.

But narcissists believe that anything that came before them is inferior and something they build from scratch will be so much better, because they did it.

7 posted on 10/25/2013 3:50:28 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Who knew that one day professional wrestling would be less fake than professional journalism?)
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It was suggested on another thread that this might have been a “death march” project. I had never heard the term, but once I realized what it was, I realized that I had worked on one of them.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_march_%28project_management%29


8 posted on 10/25/2013 3:51:11 PM PDT by Fresh Wind (The last remnants of the Old Republic have been swept away.)
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I know this is just totally out of the box thinking, but aren't there hundreds of thousands, if not a million insurance salespeople across the country? Aren't there company websites that sell insurance each and every day?

Why on earth would they need to make their own website to duplicate the sale of insurance by private insurers to the public? Can't you get your ‘ObamaCare’ compliant policy directly from the insurer and save yourself weeks of headache?

9 posted on 10/25/2013 3:52:36 PM PDT by kingu (Everything starts with slashing the size and scope of the federal government.)
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To: Fresh Wind; ecurbh

Oh yes. I’m intimately familiar with the “Death March” concept. I was an IT Director in a former life. This was absolutely one of those. It never had a chance of working... from the very first project meeting onward.


10 posted on 10/25/2013 3:56:13 PM PDT by Ramius (Personally, I give us one chance in three. More tea anyone?)
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I think you can only get a subsidy if you go through the exchange.


11 posted on 10/25/2013 4:00:26 PM PDT by MissMagnolia (You see, truth always resides wherever brave men still have ammunition. I pick truth. (John Ransom))
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It was suggested on another thread that this might have been a “death march” project. I had never heard the term, but once I realized what it was, I realized that I had worked on one of them.

I have been through a few myself.

They all end the same way.

At what stage is ObamaCare?

The Six Phases Of Big Projects

  1. Enthusiasm
  2. Disillusionment
  3. Panic and hysteria
  4. Search for the guilty
  5. Punishment of the innocent
  6. Praise and honor for the nonparticipants


12 posted on 10/25/2013 4:03:18 PM PDT by Iron Munro (When a killer screams 'Allahu Akbar' you don't need to be mystified about a motive.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

I work at a major hospital and use CMS and Medicaid systems. I love Medicaid system, pretty slick. CMS is behind on modern times like sending our official letters, payment notices, audit and Cost Reporting letters, etc via snail mail. Medicaid on the other hand, sends all communications via secure file transfer and we an send our files to them, etc.

I wondered why they didn’t use an already built government system for the healthcare.gov website.

But hey, I am sure those programmers know what they are doing, after all they got a 600M contract to build it...so the sheeple would come...snark.


13 posted on 10/25/2013 4:05:49 PM PDT by Engedi
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To: kingu

Or maybe they could have Amazon sell insurance (sarcasm)


14 posted on 10/25/2013 4:06:54 PM PDT by grania
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To: kingu

Lanny Davis was Hannity yesterday. Even he said this should have been built around existing private sector insurers and providers.

BUT that this administration does not trust the private sector.

There were a lot of ways around government takeover of 19% of the economy but they wanted to rid it of the private sector. Thereby eliminating competition which would have driven costs down.


15 posted on 10/25/2013 4:09:40 PM PDT by BunnySlippers (I LOVE BULL MARKETS . . .)
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16 posted on 10/25/2013 4:11:22 PM PDT by bkopto (Obama and Biden are merely symptoms of a more profound, systemic disease in American body politic.)
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To: Ramius

I think dead duck might be the better analogy


17 posted on 10/25/2013 4:12:29 PM PDT by Nifster
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To: bkopto

Does he look like Alfred e Neumann from the back?


18 posted on 10/25/2013 4:13:17 PM PDT by morphing libertarian
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To: Ramius

Contractors describing the web site

19 posted on 10/25/2013 4:14:47 PM PDT by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... Travon... Felony assault and battery hate crime)
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Does he look like Alfred e Neumann from the back?

"What? Me worry?" :-)

20 posted on 10/25/2013 4:15:07 PM PDT by Ramius (Personally, I give us one chance in three. More tea anyone?)
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