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It's Time to Get Mad As Hell About ObamaCare
Investor's Business Daily ^ | 10/25/2013 | IBD Staff

Posted on 10/28/2013 4:27:53 AM PDT by IBD editorial writer

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To: MrB

Oh God, I could see where that would lead. So in other words it would be complete tyranny over healthcare. Actually I have a high suspicion this whole thing is just one big scam to bring tyranny in through the back door. This crap about fines being classified as a tax. They say the fines can only be collected through tax refunds but what if they did away with that, and then raised the health rates and fines through the roof? People would be unable to afford Obamacare and as a result you would have millions owing fines which they could raise to astronomical levels and there you go: You would have people enslaved to the state - The IRS could move in seize property, put liens on accounts, seize paychecks - pretty much everything that comes with tyranny, the state deciding whether you live or die nice stuff like that.


21 posted on 10/28/2013 6:38:57 AM PDT by GrandJediMasterYoda (What do we want? Time travel. When do we want it? It's irrelevant.)
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To: IBD editorial writer
At one point, several seniors followed Illinois Rep. Dan Rostenkowski — then one of the most powerful lawmakers in Washington — back to his car and refused to let him leave. TV cameras caught one elderly woman pounding on the hood of his car.

Inadvisable protests anymore, since any such actions likely be regarded as "terroristic threats" and vigorously repelled with elite guards and drones.

22 posted on 10/28/2013 6:39:28 AM PDT by Dysart (Obamacare: "We are losing money on every subscriber-- but we will make it up in volume!")
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To: GrandJediMasterYoda

What they want to do, and what every liberal’s visceral desire is to do,

is to use the State to punish/exterminate those who oppose their ideology.

Controlling the healthcare system would fulfill that dream.


23 posted on 10/28/2013 6:41:23 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: GrandJediMasterYoda
You would have people enslaved to the state - The IRS could move in seize property, put liens on accounts, seize paychecks - pretty much everything that comes with tyranny, the state deciding whether you live or die nice stuff like that.

Welcome to the present.

24 posted on 10/28/2013 6:41:35 AM PDT by Dysart (Obamacare: "We are losing money on every subscriber-- but we will make it up in volume!")
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To: bandleader
Of course he does!Then what would stand in the way of”Single-Payer”?

One reason why I think single-payer won't occur anytime soon is because Obama's massive ego couldn't handle admitting failure.

25 posted on 10/28/2013 6:47:13 AM PDT by ScottinVA (Obama is so far in over his head, even his ears are beneath the water level.)
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And not coincidentally, AARP - the group that supported Obamacare legislation - happens to offer an alternative to Medicare Advantage. Gee, how convenient! /sarc

It's why I will never become an AARP member, and toss out every piece of mail I get from that organization. (Actually, what I should do is send them back the postage-paid envelope ... empty ... that comes with every solicitation I get in the mail. At least they'd have to waste a few pennies each time I did it!)

26 posted on 10/28/2013 6:55:30 AM PDT by mellow velo (Oxymorons: jumbo shrimp, rap music, liberal think-tank)
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To: mellow velo

Empty? No, enclose all the literature they sent you. Add some grocery store fliers, enough to bump the postage up a notch.


27 posted on 10/28/2013 7:00:33 AM PDT by BykrBayb (Somewhere, my flower is there. ~ Þ)
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To: GrandJediMasterYoda
it would be complete tyranny over healthcare.

Yes, can you imagine what political favors could be given? Given to donors, special interest groups, etc? It would actually bring the "death panels" forward to a much earlier age. They wouldn't have to wait for conservatives to get old before denying treatment; they could do it right now. It would change the voting dynamic, because with government as the sole source for healthcare, even Republicans would have to run on providing healthcare to people. Their platform would probably claim to offer the best care, but with efficient, streamlined costs. The media would label that as draconian, and the two Republicans left in Congress would be left as tokens of the "old regime" in the country that once was. (In truth, even they would be disposed of...no tyrant leaves evidence of previous history.)

28 posted on 10/28/2013 7:12:32 AM PDT by Lou L (Health "insurance" is NOT the same as health "care")
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To: ScottinVA

“One reason why I think single-payer won’t occur anytime soon is because Obama’s massive ego couldn’t handle admitting failure.”

You really think the Obama is going to be reluctant to admit the failure of the greedy insurance companies, the failure of the heartless, sabotaging Republicans and the failure of the free-market system in general? I have no doubt that this is how Obama will spin this, there will be no personal failure involved. Besides Obama freely admitted wanting a Single Payer system before he ran for president, but he did say that this would have to be accomplished gradually.

This guy has never once admitted failure, but he’s an old pro at assigning blame.


29 posted on 10/28/2013 7:27:58 AM PDT by Junk Silver
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To: Maine Mariner
Then we can move to a single payer system and total control of the US Health Care system by the federal government.

It's already working too... I've heard from a couple of 20-30 year olds in the past month, who's rates have doubled or more... who are already saying, "Screw this! Let's just go to single payer"..

These are people who HAVE BEEN, mostly conservative in their thinking. They're ready to throw in the towel. :-(

30 posted on 10/28/2013 7:42:26 AM PDT by SomeCallMeTim ( The best minds are not in government. If any were, business would hire them!)
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To: SomeCallMeTim

Sad...that these younger folks would rather throw in the towel for Socialism, rather than fight for the liberty and freedom our forefathers fought so hard for.


31 posted on 10/28/2013 7:49:09 AM PDT by Jane Long (While Marxists continue the fundamental transformation of the USA, progressive RINOs assist!)
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