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To: DustyMoment; CodeToad; onyx; Kansas58

I don’t really care if you claim to have voted for Ronald Reagan, the Holy Trinity, or Ferlon Husky and the Hushpuppies. Right now you’re being a concern troll and acting like a stealth democrat.

Stop it. He’s eligible. Despite all the trash the anti-cruzers have thrown at him, he’s a citizen by birth, and that equals natural born. And it’s been proven to many times. Go back and read all the previous threads.

Why attack him now when amnesty and obamacare are on the table again at the same time, front and center in the news?

Why now?


101 posted on 10/29/2013 11:20:14 AM PDT by xzins ( Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for victory!)
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To: xzins

The courts that gave us Obamacare will be the courts ruling on Cruz’s eligibility. The GOPe and Democrats practically own the courts.

It won’t help to look the other way when the natural born citizen argument comes. I dread the blindside we are going to get hit with if we invest in him just as our presidential candidate.

He’s a great man and we need him. How about Senate Majority Leader Cruz? He doesn’t have to be president to be effective. He may be even more effective there, and we avoid the sucker punch that is coming.


111 posted on 10/29/2013 11:38:12 AM PDT by helpfulresearcher (Socialism is just like any other form of corruption, except that it is perpetrated by a mob.)
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To: xzins

These liberal trolls attack Cruz because he is effective. They know he will stomp the guts out of Hillary and any one else the Demcraps put up.

Rush Limbaugh calls them “Seminar Callers”; people that attend seminars to learn how to say something conservative just enough to be included in a discussion but them make all kinds of underhanded liberals claims.


132 posted on 10/29/2013 12:20:47 PM PDT by CodeToad (Liberals are bloodsucking ticks. We need to light the matchstick to burn them off. -786 +969)
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To: xzins
. . . . he’s a citizen by birth, and that equals natural born. And it’s been proven to many times.

Well he is a citizen and he was born. Those are facts. However, he was born, by his own admission, in Canada to a Cuban father and an American mother. A Natural Born Citizen is one who was born on American soil and whose parents were both American citizens.

Until recently, Sen. Cruz held dual citizenship in both Canada and America. All of these things are matters of public record, by the way. And, unfortunately, having a Cuban father and being born in Canada does not equal a Natural Born Citizen according to the Constitution.

That's not DustyMoment saying it, that's the Constitution and the Founding Fathers saying it. However, if you want to live in a nation of men and NOT law, as zero is making America, then you are correct - Cruz is eligible to be POTUS. For that matter, as a nation of men, we can decide that Prince George can be POTUS when he gets old enough. Because that's how nations that live by the rule of men function.

202 posted on 10/29/2013 2:27:47 PM PDT by DustyMoment (Congress - another name for the American politburo!!)
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To: xzins
Why attack him now when amnesty and obamacare are on the table again at the same time, front and center in the news?

Sorry, I meant to respond to this in my previous post. I'm not attacking Cruz, I'm simply posting a factual essay that clearly defines the term Natural Born Citizen.

That's not an attack. I like Cruz and will support him for any elected position he is legally entitled to hold. But, you asked why I was attacking him when ZeroCare and amnesty are on the table again. I didn't post the article to which we all responded. I posted an essay that is intended to clarify a legal term that has been muddied and confused. So, if you want to know why I posted the essay on a thread posted by someone else when, as you say, ZeroCare and amnesty are on the table again (amnesty having never been taken off the table, btw), then you should ask that of the original poster, not me.

203 posted on 10/29/2013 2:33:30 PM PDT by DustyMoment (Congress - another name for the American politburo!!)
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