Skip to comments.These White Boxes Hiding in Plain Sight All Over the World May Be a U.S. Government Spy Tool
Posted on 10/30/2013 8:41:04 AM PDT by Paine in the Neck
The German newspaper Der Spiegel over the weekend revealed that not only did the U.S. monitor the cellphone of German Chancellor Angela Merkel, it also allegedly utilized the American embassy in Berlin as a listening station by means of a windowless structure filled with hi-tech gadgetry on the roof to monitor cellphone and other sensitive communications.
An Israeli intelligence analyst has now discovered similar mysterious white structures positioned on the rooftops of many key American embassies including in Beijing, Moscow, and Tel Aviv and published the photos to support his claims. While the structures appear to have a solid exterior, they are actually permeable by communication signals, according to the German report.
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Does it scare anyone else that foreign governments are now releasing intelligence on us and our structures in foreign lands? I am completely against what the government is doing, but I have a sneaking suspicion that the governments of the world might do the work we want to do ourselves. Will we one day be welcoming Russian tanks in our town squares or British armored vehicles in our cities as our liberators? Ironic, no?
1. Why are you against the NSA doing signal intelligence on foreign leaders. That is there job. I would be shocked and dismayed if they did not.
2. Is there anyone in the world surprised that US, Russian, Chinese, UK, French etc embassies are places where their spies set up machinery to listen in on others? I would be shocked it this were not the case.
3. Is there any evidence at all that this has anything to do with Google and whatever they are building?
It is one thing to be upset that the NSA spies on American citizens. It is another to be upset that they spy on Merkel’s cell phone. You should be upset if they don’t.
I'm guessing that one doesn't belong to the NSA, more likely the NEP (New England Patriots.)
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All governments spy on each other...allies or not. It just makes sense to know what the other players are up to. Spying is not the problem here. The problem is the expansive nature of the spying, the fact that NSA is spying on private citizens, both here and abroad and the fact that the NSA been tapping the private phones of world leaders. That is not ‘Business as Usual’ and it’s most certainly not naive to think that this crosses a huge line. obama is wrecking the image, honor and prestige of this nation abroad just as surely as he’s wrecking our economy, polity and rule of law here at home.
White is the new black.
They are doing us a favor. They are showing Obama that he is not reapected and ceased to be a player.
Internationally, Obama was
Hiding in plain sight...
Their number two job is to not get caught - which they are failing at right now.
And they excel at spying on the one group our constitution expressly forbids them from foisting their intrusions on - law-abiding US citizens in good standing.
Leave me alone, Angela Merkel's fair game.
Let's pray it doesn't come to that...
I really don’t care if the NSA does sigint on foreign soil.
It’s the monitoring of US citizens that bothers me.
That said, I will speculate on these strange structures.
They probably contain multiple hi gain antennas. I’d guess small dish antennas and yagi types. They hide them in the plastic box for the same reason they hide large dish antennas in those huge plastic domes...to hide the direction the antennas are pointing.
NSA has large ears in space, the huge NRO satellites in geosynchronous orbit. But those sats have a hard time picking up cell phone traffic because the same frequencies are used nearly everywhere and this means the sats pick up so much interference that individual cell system traffic is buried under the noise.
If I set up these monitoring posts I would scoop up all the local rf traffic and uplink the data to the NRO sats on other, quieter, frequencies.
Um, yeah. I thought this was kinda well known.
Like how the Soviets built their DC embassy near the top of Mt St Albans, by the National Cathedral, becase it’s the highest point in DC and has direct lines of sight to just about every government facility and foreign embassy in the region, including NSA, CIA, DIA, Pentagon, etc.
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Heck, before he died the last few Jack Ryan books Tom Clancy wrote involved a secret agence located directly between the CIA and NSA that had a structure just like this on it’s roof to suck down line of sight microwave and laser transmissions between the two.
You can toleratte a lot of spying if you trust the spy and his intentions.
Obviously, no one trusts Obama.
I am not mad at the NSA for spying abroad. I am infuriated that they’re spying on us. I would be infuriated if they weren’t spying on foreign sources.
I am additionally irate at the fact that Google is acting as the technology arm of the US government. People around the world should be eschewing Google products, including the Android operating system.
It used to be that Americans could choose to not participate in society if that was their wish. They could hole up in a cabin in the woods, generate their own power if they so chose, sink a well, live off the land, not participate on the Internet or in any other manner.
Now the government has cameras on every road. They fly drones over vast stretches of land to check for human activity and monitor it. They hassle you at your door for not filling out a census form. They monitor what you purchase online and via credit card. They know where you keep your money. You can no way insulate yourself from the government leviathan anymore. That should infuriate every American.
The Google barges are just large floating server farms that use the water to cool them.. or so I heard somewhere.
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The last pic looks like the Klinton Library.
If you have reasonable suspicions of illegal activity, and some evidence to back it up, you can obtain a warrant to eavesdrop from a court of law.
Without that, you should not be able to listen in on the private conversations of American citizens.
Internationally, nobody is obligated to obey any rules of privacy. International electronic communications have been fair game since international electronic communications were invented.
Well said. Complacency reigns. Bread and Circuses.
For the year and a half that I was unemployed, and still had a connection to the Internet, I did NOT go to the library, because it cost bus fare, which I could not at that time recoup.
All it took was a USB extension cord, a ‘one pound coffee can’, and a USB thumb-stick WIFI antenna!
If little ol’ me could do that, and I am not an expert in these things, flat plastic panels might house quite a fancy piece of antenna, I might think.
Wardriving, were you?
I hear the very best piece of equipment is a Pringles box :).
This is not news and it makes us look stupid to be upset by it.
The Google barges are using water for cooling?
Is that Mickey Mouse dancing on top of the Box?
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It’s Mickey and Minnie Ice Capades.
The British have armored vehicles?
I thought they downsized their military to insignifcance.
If it’s a big data center that could be.
Will Greenpeace send in divers to measure the water temp for localized warming and habitat destruction?
I’m not eschewing intelligence gathering in foreign lands. I’m lambasting intelligence gathering here by our own government to whatever ends they deem “right” for themselves. I’m making an example by way of demonstration that foreign governments are increasingly seeing America as a usurper of sovereignty. Perform your intelligence gathering, but don’t make it so obvious as to be as plain as the nose on your face.
We are tracked by cameras on every building across every intersection, on every street sign and billboard. We are seen by digital eyes everywhere and at all times. Even in our own homes, the cameras attached to Internet-connected devices could be used to spy against us. How is that legal or promotional of our liberty? We can certainly do away with our smartphones in lieu of home telephones, but even those can be tapped and tracked. We can certainly do away with our televisions and our computers, but even our library reading habits are monitored. We could move to the country, set up an underground network of storage bunkers and safe havens against nuclear fallout or government tyranny, but drones will know where to find us, and a vast array of tools could be used to locate us and smoke us out of the holes we create for our own safety and well being. We could eschew every technological advancement of the last 100 years, and somehow, the government would know where we are.
There are no practical ways to blind the government to our goings on. How does that make us free? We are slaves to our own government tracking us, making notes. Certainly they could use living, breathing humans to follow us everywhere, “minders” if you will, but at least they could be “lost.”
Face it, there are no avenues for privacy left in this world. There are no avenues for private discussion with another person. What the Founders pulled off over 200 years ago will likely prove improbably in today’s world. No longer are oceans separating us and slowing communications. Everything is instant. Our only hope, and it’s truly just a hope not a practical plan, is that just men rule us and our chains rest lightly upon our shoulders.
God save us.
We have created an American KGB. How awful.
Where there is a will, there is a way. A computer is only as good as its programming.
They would be heat exchanging at a controlled rate so as to not give off noticeable (”cooling tower” -like) vapors above the barge or near outlets of the barge, in the waterway.
Probably they are relying upon the water current to disperse and move the heat further out to sea.
Google would have the leftists’ support.
Could also be relying upon current in order to drive a large waterwheel that has a horizontal instead of vertical rotation axis -— thus allowing the waterwheel to hide within the hull area.
Oops! Meant: vertical instead of horizontal rotation axis.
hehehehe, they just LOOK like air handlers and cooling towers........
FWIW, there is a larger threat from a grandkid with a cellphone. In this day and age, nothing is private, or if it is, it then stands out like a sore thumb.
Some people have postulated that both google and fb are arms of the government. State that they cannot be bringing in the monies that they say with their business model.
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In my youth my father and the other neighborhood men would have not stood for the kind of spying that takes place today. They would daily shoot out the kinds of public cameras we find usual.
A Vatican representative recently said that the United States was encircled by an electronic barbed wire fence.
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I'm sure this would be in Snowdens stolen secrets but tell me Obama what gives YOU the right to make this country your personal little hell? Fascists or zombies have no business in this country so, go back to Kenya and organize communities there.
One can only wonder what a community organizer's work schedule or job manual actually says. Oh, and one thing more Cupcake, how much does this boondoggle cost?