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Russia Nuke Attack Drill As China Selects U.S. Targets
Investor's Business Daily ^ | November 2, 2013 | IND EDITORIALS

Posted on 11/02/2013 6:27:05 AM PDT by raptor22

Global Power: Moscow launches four ICBMs in a large-scale nuclear drill as Chinese state media, brandishing detailed maps, show how Beijing's nuclear submarines can attack U.S. cities. We press "reset," they press "launch."

In March 2009, Secretary of State Hillary Clinton presented Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov with a red "reset button" to symbolize improved ties. The era of confrontation when American presidents demanded the tearing down of walls was over. From now on, we would make nice.

Fast-forward to 2012, when President Obama met with Dmitry Medvedev, Russia's then-president and now prime minister, at the Nuclear Security Summit in Seoul, South Korea.

That was when Obama assured Medvedev he'd have more leeway after his re-election to weaken missile defense. This would help him achieve his dream of U.S. disarmament and bring about, as he expressed in Prague in 2009, "a world without nuclear weapons."

Apparently the Russians and the Chinese do not share that dream. On Wednesday, Russian strategic forces carried out a large-scale surprise military drill that included the test launch of two land-based intercontinental ballistic missiles and two submarine-launched ballistic missiles.

So while Russia expands and tests its offensive and defensive missile capabilities, President Obama lets our missile capabilities wither and caves to Russian demands to halt previously planned expansion.

To placate Moscow, Obama has already betrayed our allies in Poland and the Czech Republic by abandoning plans to deploy ground-based interceptors and missile defense in those countries.

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs
KEYWORDS: china; chinatargets; flexibility; ibd; ibddefense; medvedev; missiledefense; nuclearattack; obamalateral; obamasfault; russia; russiadrill; russianflexibility; starwars
Flexibility? Gran Your ankles, America.
1 posted on 11/02/2013 6:27:06 AM PDT by raptor22
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To: raptor22

Borders? Congress: forgetaboutit
Constitution? Congress: forgetaboutit

Congress could not care. Lured by the scent of
LOVEINT, $$$$$$, Ambien, laws ONLY for others, and al Qaeda,
they simply DO NOT CARE.


2 posted on 11/02/2013 6:38:44 AM PDT by Diogenesis
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To: Diogenesis

The map of Chinese targets was pretty interesting...west coast and northeast...toast. Why would you dispose of your ideological soulmates?


3 posted on 11/02/2013 6:45:45 AM PDT by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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To: who knows what evil?

Because it’s the grain fields of the plains that you want.


4 posted on 11/02/2013 6:57:08 AM PDT by Pearls Before Swine
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5 posted on 11/02/2013 7:04:08 AM PDT by raptor22 (Visit my blog at True Conservatives on Twitter: http://t.co/IKpP3cwq)
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To: Pearls Before Swine
And everyone knows that when the revolution is over you purge the revolutionaries because they know how to make revolution. Too dangerous to have around, you know. They won't figure it out until they are looking at the wall of the tiled cellar and the cleaning drain on the floor. Then they face their maker and won't like the follow up at all.
6 posted on 11/02/2013 7:09:21 AM PDT by 17th Miss Regt
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To: Pearls Before Swine

And a rifle behind every grain of wheat.


7 posted on 11/02/2013 7:24:02 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer (FROM MY COLD, DEAD HANDS! BETTER DEAD THAN RED!)
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To: raptor22
Russia Nuke Attack Drill As China Selects U.S. Targets

Likely primary targets of an attack: Washington, New York, Los Angeles, Chicago, San Francisco, Miami

Largest concentration of liberal scum: Washington, New York, Los Angeles, Chicago, San Francisco, Miami

That being said, don't do us any favors, thank you.

8 posted on 11/02/2013 7:35:30 AM PDT by Caipirabob (Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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To: raptor22
Obama's "Destroy the USA in 8 years" plan is progressing nicely.

Once he's out of office and safely tucked away in his multi-million fortified retreat in Hawaii, the US will be nuked and taken over. The gay military will be powerless to do anything, and half of America will be so fat and lazy they won't care.

Obama will probably become the Commissar of North America after all the dust settles, operating out of the new capital in HI.

9 posted on 11/02/2013 7:39:57 AM PDT by Cementjungle
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To: raptor22
Ready to press the "Reset" button?


10 posted on 11/02/2013 7:45:01 AM PDT by P.O.E. (Pray for America)
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To: raptor22

Yeah, saw that too. Spooky stuff huh? I guess with their subs, no place is “safe”.


11 posted on 11/02/2013 7:46:47 AM PDT by rktman (Let sleeping wives lie.)
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To: raptor22
Have you noticed that there are no " Civil Defense shelters " being currently maintained in the U.S. ?
Nothing has been updated since the end of the '60's
And this while " Russia Nuclear Attack Drill as China Selects U.S. Targets " ?

Wake Up America !


12 posted on 11/02/2013 7:47:55 AM PDT by Tilted Irish Kilt (Enlightened statesmen will not always be at the helm. -- James Madison)
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To: P.O.E.

T-Minus 10 and counting.....


13 posted on 11/02/2013 7:56:16 AM PDT by TheCause ("that these United Colonies are, and of right ought to be, free and independent States")
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To: who knows what evil?

14 posted on 11/02/2013 8:06:37 AM PDT by Momaw Nadon ("...with the ultimate goal of ending tyranny in our world.")
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To: raptor22

It’s like Obama surrendered on the Coldwar that Reagan won.


15 posted on 11/02/2013 8:08:55 AM PDT by DungeonMaster
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To: Admin Moderator; Jim Robinson

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16 posted on 11/02/2013 8:12:23 AM PDT by raptor22 (Visit my blog at True Conservatives on Twitter: http://t.co/IKpP3cwq)
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Possible targets according to FEMA-196/September 1990:


17 posted on 11/02/2013 8:26:39 AM PDT by Momaw Nadon ("...with the ultimate goal of ending tyranny in our world.")
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To: raptor22

Practically speaking, Russia needed to fire missiles to make sure their missiles actually work. While missiles are “high tech”, they go through incredible stresses enroute, and seemingly insignificant problems can destroy them. The US used to test fire missiles at frequent intervals.

“Overkill”, having multiple missiles aimed at the same target, was not, as misunderstood, so as to be able to “over-destroy” their target, but was based on the idea that most missiles would never reach their target.

There are losses just getting out of the silo. Losses just after leaving the silo. Inertial losses where in the initial boost it goes off course or starts to twirl. Losses at the second stage. Finally, at altitude, there is some peace and quiet right about when missile defenses engage. Then, losses in the descent, with lots of air friction. Then there is missing the target, and finally, the bomb doesn’t explode properly because *it* is flawed, or perhaps damaged by vibration and heat.

Even for very good quality US missiles, overkill is very high.

As far as the Chinese, they are more of a concern, in that to successfully conquer Taiwan, they need to severely cripple the US Pacific fleet. The way to do this is less to attack the fleet itself, than to attack the only two deep water ports capable of repair, refueling, and rearming them. This means Bremerton, Washington and San Diego.

While in addition, they have published white papers from their strategists that unconventional attacks to other parts of the US would be needed as well, so that the US was both distracted and unable to respond before China had landed huge numbers of soldiers on Taiwan, and intermingled them with the Taiwanese, then declare that any future acts by the US Navy amount to unprovoked aggression against China, since the US has technically agreed to the reunification of the two.

However, this does mean that the attacks on the two ports have to be done in such a way that China can claim “plausible deniability.”

Of course, the flip side of this coin is called the Office of Naval Research (ONR). A truly amazing military research and development organization, it is their job to design naval weapons 50 or 100 years in the future as well as for right now.

So the brilliant Cold War scheme of using ballistic missile submarines may have some flaws, like the USN releasing The Kraken, Monster X, and Cthulhu to eat their submarines before they can launch, as it were. Or a reasonable high explosive facsimile thereof.


18 posted on 11/02/2013 8:32:37 AM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy (Welfare is the new euphemism for Eugenics.)
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To: raptor22

Quiz. Q #1: Which American “Rock Star” President gave the chicoms the ICBM guidance technology that gave them a 20 plus leap ahead in the accurate targeting of the United States?

Hint: Wife was Sec. of State made famous by uttering “What difference does it make”.


19 posted on 11/02/2013 8:41:58 AM PDT by Captain7seas
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy
like the USN releasing The Kraken, Monster X, and Cthulhu to eat their submarines before they can launch, as it were

You made my day!

Cthulhu. Great one.

20 posted on 11/02/2013 9:11:36 AM PDT by sauron ("Truth is hate to those who hate Truth" --unknown)
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21 posted on 11/02/2013 9:29:36 AM PDT by raptor22 (Visit my blog at True Conservatives on Twitter: http://t.co/IKpP3cwq)
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To: Momaw Nadon
Doesn't look at all like they're targeting cities.

They are targeting major sub-stations.

Scobie substation in southern NH and the big one in southern Massachusetts, I forget the name of it.

It looks like they want to take out the canal between Lake Champlain, VT and the Hudson River, other than the US naval museum where the US Navy was founded in Whitehall, NY, I don't know what else is a target there.

Maybe Freepers familiar with the power infrastructure near some of the other dots can tell more.

By hitting the substations they are leaving the generating capacity intact, with easily replaceable (by the Chicoms as they make the huge transformers and switchgear need in big substations) infrastructure for afterwards.

If they win the war, they have their conquered country (us) back up and running quickly.

If they lose the war, they sell us the equipment.

22 posted on 11/02/2013 9:55:50 AM PDT by Mogger (Independence, better fuel economy and performance with American made synthetic oil.)
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23 posted on 11/02/2013 9:57:57 AM PDT by raptor22 (Visit my blog at True Conservatives on Twitter: http://t.co/IKpP3cwq)
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy
is less to attack the fleet itself, than to attack the only two deep water ports capable of repair, refueling, and rearming

Ditto. Other than power infrastructure, looks like they are going after the shipyard in Maine, which produces destroyers.

24 posted on 11/02/2013 9:58:44 AM PDT by Mogger (Independence, better fuel economy and performance with American made synthetic oil.)
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To: lonevoice

ping!


25 posted on 11/02/2013 10:02:25 AM PDT by Pride in the USA
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To: who knows what evil?

>>>The map of Chinese targets was pretty interesting...west coast and northeast...toast. Why would you dispose of your ideological soulmates?<<<

Useful idiots are first to get lined against the wall by communist book.


26 posted on 11/02/2013 10:38:06 AM PDT by cunning_fish
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To: raptor22
Another proposal being floated is (although less likely) is to give President Obama the authority to raise the debt ceiling at his discretion, subject to a resolution of disapproval that would have to pass both houses of congress. Such a resolution would be a kabuki dance, passing in the House and failing in the Senate.

Why the new-found willingness to acquiesce in new debt?

Credible sources here in Washington have shared a chilling back-story that took place involving the President and congressional leaders of both parties as the clock ticked down to the Treasury running out of cash earlier last month. It seems that more than one creditor nation, led by the Chinese, indirectly telegraphed a willingness to take very draconian measures in response to a ‘debt default’ – apparently even if coupon payments were made on outstanding debt owed to them. Those measures were set to go way beyond being financial, and were said to be credible in nature.

At least one senior Republican scoffed at the threat, but relented when briefed by (at least nominally) non-political figures in the national security community. That explains why, in part, the whole stand-off ended with a whimper and not a bang.

The implication? The country is far deeper down the rabbit hole of debt than most fathom. The current paradigm has moved one step closer to the end game. We are no longer masters of our own fate.

From: Another Debt Showdown coming in Washington next year? Don’t bet on it.

27 posted on 11/02/2013 11:24:11 AM PDT by Vince Ferrer
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To: Pride in the USA; Stillwaters

Thanks for the ping. I think it’s going to be a horserace to see if our nation can survive the duration of Obozo’s term.


28 posted on 11/02/2013 11:58:43 AM PDT by lonevoice (Today I broke my personal record for most consecutive days lived)
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To: Vince Ferrer

Go in any store in America.

Pick up the item, on any shelf.

You will find a “Made in China” sticker.

We need to bring back American jobs. Now.


29 posted on 11/02/2013 12:02:00 PM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network
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30 posted on 11/02/2013 1:41:49 PM PDT by raptor22 (Visit my blog at True Conservatives on Twitter: http://t.co/IKpP3cwq)
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To: raptor22

Thanks for the ping.


31 posted on 11/02/2013 2:03:08 PM PDT by GOPJ (Show me just ONE example of an Islamic country where non Muslims are treated with equality.TimLee)
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To: 17th Miss Regt
...everyone knows that when the revolution is over you purge the revolutionaries because they know how to make revolution. Too dangerous to have around, you know.

Also,they know where the bodies are hidden...

32 posted on 11/02/2013 2:05:33 PM PDT by GOPJ (Show me just ONE example of an Islamic country where non Muslims are treated with equality.TimLee)
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To: GOPJ

I’m not worried about The Russkies or the Chinese. I’m worried about the Welfare zombies.


33 posted on 11/02/2013 2:13:17 PM PDT by AppyPappy (Obama: What did I not know and when did I not know it?)
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34 posted on 11/02/2013 2:54:37 PM PDT by raptor22 (Visit my blog at True Conservatives on Twitter: http://t.co/IKpP3cwq)
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To: raptor22

This kind of talk would never take place if we had a real POTUS in charge.


35 posted on 11/02/2013 2:58:35 PM PDT by jetson
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36 posted on 11/02/2013 3:51:33 PM PDT by raptor22 (Visit my blog at True Conservatives on Twitter: http://t.co/IKpP3cwq)
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To: AppyPappy
I'm worried about the Chinese, Iranians, North Koreans, zombies, liberal elites and Biden. Not necessarily in that order...
37 posted on 11/02/2013 5:26:37 PM PDT by GOPJ (Show me just ONE example of an Islamic country where non Muslims are treated with equality.TimLee)
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38 posted on 11/02/2013 5:26:47 PM PDT by raptor22 (Visit my blog at True Conservatives on Twitter: http://t.co/IKpP3cwq)
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To: Momaw Nadon

The Russians will hit the cities in the midwest and on the east coast.


39 posted on 11/02/2013 11:31:57 PM PDT by Thunder90 (All posts soley represent my own opinion.)
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To: raptor22

Comforting to know we have Obozo in the WH at this time in history more worried about helping our enemies bring us down from within. They won’t have to fire a shot.


40 posted on 11/04/2013 12:30:25 PM PST by b4its2late (A Liberal is a person who will give away everything he doesn't own.)
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