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Ted Cruz Is Right About Growth, While Ben Stein Is Hopelessly Wrong
Forbes ^ | November 6, 2013 | Louis Woodhill

Posted on 11/06/2013 4:13:06 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

In his remarks to the Robert L. Bartley Gala Dinner on October 23, Senator Ted Cruz disparaged the notion of a “grand bargain,” which would raise taxes and (supposedly) cut spending. Cruz went on to say:

“ “I’m going to tell you my view, which is I think that we ought to be relentlessly, tirelessly, exclusively focused on growth, because every other priority we have depends on growth.”(continued)

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: benstein; cruz; economy; entitlements; growth; taxes; tedcruz; welfare

1 posted on 11/06/2013 4:13:06 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Not to mention that any “grand bargain” made by the current crooks in Washington would result in real tax increases and phantom or, at best, trivial increases in spending rates.


2 posted on 11/06/2013 4:23:45 PM PST by I-ambush (Don't let it bring you down, it's only castles burning.)
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To: I-ambush

Exactly.

And Ted Cruz is right.

Again.


3 posted on 11/06/2013 4:37:00 PM PST by absalom01 (You should do your duty in all things. You cannot do more, and you should never wish to do less.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Mr Stein thinks 50%+ of my income going to taxes is too low? Oh wait, obamacare taxes are about to hit also.
4 posted on 11/06/2013 4:46:11 PM PST by Eagles6 (Valley Forge Redux)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Well, if Ben Stein runs in any "The Taxes Are Too D*mn Low Party" he's bound to lose.

But he's right that you can't dismiss deficits with a lot of talk about "growth".

5 posted on 11/06/2013 4:48:45 PM PST by x
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Wow! Use to think of Ben Stein as a Conservative fellow but in the last few years (watched him on FOX) have come to understand that he is really a liberal in disguise.

He can have some interesting thoughts but of late, he seems to be opining for an opening in this Administration. Maybe just another of those rich fellows that thinks that money will buy happiness (for those that do not have it).


6 posted on 11/06/2013 4:49:31 PM PST by Deagle (m)
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To: x
But he's right that you can't dismiss deficits with a lot of talk about "growth".

The implication in the above statement is that TAX INCREASES are required.

BULLSPIT.

Any talk about the Debt and Deficit that simply focuses on economic growth without real reductions in Government spending and reductions in the size of the Federal Governemnt are doomed.

We cannot count on growth alone, especially with the current ass-clowns running things, therefore CUTS, CUTS and more CUTS are required.

Cuts work every time they're tried.

Just ask Germany.

7 posted on 11/06/2013 4:55:39 PM PST by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: Deagle

He worked for Nixon. He is a liberal in disguise. It was required.


8 posted on 11/06/2013 5:03:00 PM PST by VerySadAmerican (".....Barrack, and the horse Mohammed rode in on.")
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To: usconservative
The implication in the above statement is that TAX INCREASES are required.

That's not what I said.

My point was you can't cut taxes, not worry about spending, ignore deficits, and think that everything will be alright because you're talking about "growth" all the time.

If you're going to see "real reductions in Government spending," that's another story. But what makes you think you're actually going to see that any time soon?

We cannot count on growth alone ...

No argument there.

9 posted on 11/06/2013 5:07:39 PM PST by x
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To: VerySadAmerican

Point taken!


10 posted on 11/06/2013 5:29:05 PM PST by Deagle (m)
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To: x

Growth is mostly confidence in Government by all folks, then lower taxes on the producers, then lower regulations on the producers, then good luck. Seems that the Democrats depend mostly on the good luck option.


11 posted on 11/06/2013 5:31:57 PM PST by Deagle (m)
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To: x
That's not what I said.

Didn't say you said it. All I said was that's an implication of the statement.

Not trying to cause an argument here, we're supposed to be on the same side aren't we?

12 posted on 11/06/2013 6:07:47 PM PST by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: x
If you're going to see "real reductions in Government spending," that's another story. But what makes you think you're actually going to see that any time soon?

Couldn't let that go by without a response. I think I was clear that given the current ass-clowns in power, we wouldn't see that anytime soon.

13 posted on 11/06/2013 6:09:18 PM PST by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: x

Didn’t any of you people live through the Reagan years?

You GROW your way out of debt. Works every time.


14 posted on 11/06/2013 8:28:20 PM PST by Liberty Wins ( The average lefty is synapse challenged)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet; castowell; JJHLH1; rhubarbk; Jotmo; Hamilcar_Barca; Amanda King; ...

Ted Cruz Ping!

If you want on/off this ping list, please let me know.

Please beware, this is a high-volume ping list!


15 posted on 11/07/2013 8:45:46 AM PST by SoConPubbie (Mitt and Obama: They're the same poison, just a different potency)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
"In our current crisis, government is not the solution; government is the problem!" (emphasis added).

The above by RR is always true.

16 posted on 11/07/2013 8:51:01 AM PST by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

It’s awfully hard to achieve “growth” when about 90% of Federal employees and officeholders believe and act as if economic activity is by definition theft from the masses, and imposing collectivist remedies is their paramount duty.


17 posted on 11/07/2013 8:56:03 AM PST by Mr. Jeeves (CTRL-GALT-DELETE)
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To: Liberty Wins
You GROW your way out of debt. Works every time.

The Devil's Bargain Reagan made, however, included looking the other way on spending increases Tip O'Neill's House demanded. Reagan felt he had to do that to get the military expansion he wanted, but it led directly to a DC culture of never saying no to any social spending expansion, ever.

So we never successfully grew our way out of the debt. We did grow - but the debt grew even faster.

18 posted on 11/07/2013 8:59:17 AM PST by Mr. Jeeves (CTRL-GALT-DELETE)
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To: Mr. Jeeves

Many thanks for that. I’d be wary of politicians who tell us it’s easy, all evidence to the contrary.


19 posted on 11/07/2013 2:47:01 PM PST by x
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