Skip to comments.Students face expulsion from school for pulling gun on home intruder
Posted on 11/09/2013 5:07:22 PM PST by ConservativeStatement
Two Gonzaga University seniors are on the verge of being expelled after using a gun to defend themselves from a career criminal trying to break into their apartment.
Erik Fagan and Dan McIntosh, who both live in an off-campus near the schools Spokane, OR., campus, were accosted last month by a man demanding money while standing in the door of their apartment.
Mr Fagan offered food and a blanket, but declined to give ex-con John Taylor any money, he told KHQ. Mr Taylor then tried to fight his way into the apartment but was scared off by Mr McIntoshs hand gun.
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Campus security is all over campus. Awesome.
...and I thought Americans were supposed to be bad at geography.
Lawyer up. Now.
To the Lib mind they should have let the perk kill them.
The university think their students have a duty to die
They can live in the basement at the Prezzy's House where it will be safer.
Yup. Get a lawyer. Fight on. If you need to, run screaming from Gonzaga. The NERVE!!
Schools led by fools.
The burglars are solid DNC voters.
They DNC will do all they can to ensure their community level redistribution plans continue.
US prisons over flow with democrats.
Lawyer up. Now.
Absolutely. And call the NRA; there are folks who defend victims (of both the University and the “homeless” creature) of citizens having their 2nd Amendment rights denied.
” live in an off-campus”
Sue the university for millions of dollars. This is outrageous.
Maybe transfer to a saner school.
I can kinda sorta see the school’s fear and it’s tied, I believe, to lawsuit happiness. Since it apparently happened in a housing unit kept by the school, the school is worrying about the possibility of getting sued by someone shot by an occupant of the unit. Now in a saner age such a suit would get laughed off. But our new fangled “deep pockets” require, not just allow, some sufficiently rich party who is a minor co-defendant to stand the whole cost of an inflated lawsuit. One of the earlier ways liberalism went off the rails.
Gonzaga portable gun-free zone goes where you go.
Also... the more we can get back to a rights-based view of keeping and bearing arms, perhaps the less opportunity there would be for such lawsuits to win. Because if the school can’t control the use of the guns, then it cannot be held liable for not having controlled them.
Never trust your life to an effing Liberal. They’re going to righteously do exactly the wrong thing.
And their jurisdiction to punish students for engaging in legal behavior off-campus? Shoot, hit them for more money than you’d make in a lifetime with a degree from their “school”, and all is well.
An interesting lawsuit?
When asked by the station how students are expected to defend themselves in the face of such a restriction, the school claimed campus security is all over campus.
Ha, ha! Good one! These guys live OFF CAMPUS!
Apparently Spokane has gotten larger since I was there last ;’)
“The burglars are solid DNC voters.”
That’s hitting the nail on the head. Dems seem to always side with criminals because that is their voting block.
‘The universitys weapons policy forbids the possession of weapons... in both on-campus and off-campus housing,’ a spokesperson told the station.
Since Gonzaga is a private Jesuit school, the best bet for these students is to appeal to the bishop of Spokane to act as a reasonable mediator. While the school may legitimately expect its students to maintain both morality and decorum, to expect them to be victimized or murdered while off campus, just to obey an arbitrary rule that they be unarmed and helpless, is foolish indeed.
No harm came of their actions, and two lives might have been saved. This is far more important than whimsical and secular rules.
I wonder what the range of the zone is? What if a kid lived in an apartment 50 miles away and commuted?
does Campus security go where you go too??
so what? Why would they want to get an education at a facility run by such idiots?
I was nearly at the point I was going to hire these folks...
...but I just got my degree and got the Hell out of there with sheepskin in hand. Actually, my one buddy pointed me to Levin... this was a long time ago... I dunno if he coulda helped or not, though.
Point is I got my degree, and I will never ever contribute one penny to that school, or the Alumni association... EVER.
I can definately empathize with these kids from Gonzaga. Any Gonzaga Alumni on here should take up the case for these kids and personally see to it that a hornets nest is stirred up and that the administration responsible for this violation of constitutional rights is fired. Money talks in these situations.
This is a Catholic school in Spokane, Washington, If that stunt was pulled here, G-d knows what would happen at the average State School even in a pure red state, much less a liberal arts type college or University of any kind. Maybe Theological Seminaries are the sole legit option they have.
Power extends even off campus. So, this little bitty 4000 student pissant college no one has ever heard of trumps the US Constitution. Hope those boys end up owning it.
No, but the med school does have wannabe coroners who need the practice.
The fools who are trying to expel these two students for legally exercising their second amendment rights should be imprisoned in the same cell as the home intruder!
The home intruder needs to live with the Administrators.
Now, I can't blame the students for their actions, and in fact they put up with the crumby perp far longer than I would have. So, I hope they do not get expelled. But I also have to reluctantly agree that the university is probably within its legal rights here, as sucky as their decision is.
The off-campus housing the students are living in is university housing - “””
Then I would sue the University for not providing proper security.
If they won’t let me take care of myself with my own ‘security’, then they should keep the buildings & occupants safe.
They cannot have it both ways, IMO.
Agreed. These kids don’t deserve to be expelled. If anything, they should be praised for their patience and restraint (the homeless perp is lucky he’s not stretched out in a morgue, given his aggressive behavior that night).
Hope things work out for these two guys.
The burglars are solid DNC voters.
Thats hitting the nail on the head. Dems seem to always side with criminals because that is their voting block.
See Sullivan Laws in New York. They were put in place to protect muggers by Sullivan, an associate of Tammany Hall who ran/ruled the gangs.
Gonzaga is in an EXTREMELY nasty part of Spokane. Crime, particularly property crimes, are very common around there because of all the social lowlifes preying on the “rich” students. But the statistics get downplayed because it would make the very prestigious university look bad.
[To the Lib mind they should have let the perk kill them.]
Or they should have challenged the hoodlum to a debate in which the students’ superior intellects—refined by higher education—would have exposed the folly of the hoodlum’s cause and sent him packing.
Well there’s legal rights and there’s the CODE OF THE WEST. That’s where the students are from and that’s where Gonzaga is. The college obviously thot they didn’t need any security but they are going to lose every time they try to force people to be defenseless. The housing agreement the students signed says “no weapons” but that implies security is in place. As with all the other recent “gun free zone” incidents it’s the school that’s shown its weak spot and they’d better back it up in a hurry or their trust fund is going to take a major hit. Remember Spokane is where the WW II vet recently got killed by beating when two of their finest tried to hold him up. The students had absolute reason to be fearful, concerned, and resist with all they had. Gonzaga doesn’t play football so the students were not likely to be full grown horses-—most likely don’t have the physical skills to bust the head of the robber-—all the more reason for the school to have some security out there in the ‘hood.
Hey, you’re preaching to the choir, FRiend. I don’t fault these two guys one bit. I’m just sayin’ the article didn’t have the “off campus” part quite right.
Yeah, that is a pretty critical omission. Stupid rule, but it's their property. But under those circumstances, why would anyone agree to live there?
The apartments the students were living in are owned and run by the school.
which is why they were hit by the perp, criminals know where the gun free zones are.
Destruction of the society that is based on God’s Law is their motivation,
and that’s why they side with criminals.
Buh b buh bu buh boo
Sue the pants off them. Ruin careers. Break up families. Make their children cry.
It’s inherently obvious that the security that they
inherently agreed to provide by requiring residents to be defenseless
was criminally negligent in defending those students.
It’s sad when the UK reports what our Pravda won’t.
They’re alive. It’s worth it. Finish their education somewhere else.
If we’re to call ourselves “Free Men” we should behave as such.
They did. Case closed.