Posted on 11/09/2013 5:42:22 PM PST by Ramius
SPOKANE, Wash.-- Two Gonzaga University students could be expelled for using a gun to protect themselves at their University owned apartment.
GU leaders said the students violated a policy all students show know about when living in a school owned apartment.
Seniors Erik Fagan and Dainel McIntosh felt they needed to protect themselves in late October when a convicted felon came to their door asking for money. Fagan said he yelled for his roommate after trying to get the man to leave. McIntosh came down with his gun, which he has a concealed weapons permit for according to Fagan. The roommates said McIntosh scared the man off by flashing the gun.
The men called the Spokane Police Department and Campus Security. Police told them they did the right thing according to the roommates. Campus Security came back hours later. Security officers said they knocked but nobody answers. The roommates said that is when the security guard used a master key and came into their apartment.
Campus Security officers told the roommates that they violated GU policy and took the pistol. They also confiscated a shotgun the roommates had in their apartment.
University leaders said the students should have know about the weapon policy. Leaders also said the policy is common across the country. The students have to wait for the school's decision but they do not think they should be punished.
Gonzagazas and guns and bristols PING!
For many things I would be in the camp that says it’s a private school with private rules and the 2nd amendment doesn’t apply. But here the school is just the landlord for an off-campus apartment. I don’t think they have any business requiring students to give up their rights. Besides... You can’t sign away a right even if you try.
Don’t call the police.
they just want us to be sitting targets....just sit back and take it....
“School-owned” apartment. Time to move, boys. And I think it’s also time to raise a voice or two. It isn’t that hard around here. Gonzaga, back off. Now.
Yeah, I get the thing about a school owned apartment, but they’re just a landlord like anybody else. No way, I think, is it enforceable. Rights are rights even if you try to sign them away. They are inalienable.
This is exactly why I represent Legal Shield.
Gonzaga is a Catholic University supposedly run by Jesuits in Spokane - one of the only conservative big cities in Washington.
I graduated from a Jesuit high school in 1969. They taught me logic and how to think for myself. It seems that those skills have now been cast into the chasm of mindless political correctness.
Good for these young men. They refused to be victims. People who think that defending yourself should not be allowed need to be culled.
Why not sue the school for failure to protect students, therefore he students were left with no option.
Career criminal: John Taylor has a long rap sheet with seven prior convictions (would be perp)
Students are white you can see their photos here http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2496113/Gonzaga-University-students-face-expulsion-school-pulling-gun-home-intruder.html
Why didn’t John just go to the Administrators first?
Campus Security officers told the roommates that they violated GU policy and took the pistol. They also confiscated a shotgun the roommates had in their apartment.
The students should have called the police back the moment the rent a cops demanded their guns; the next call should have been to an assault lawyer.
Student said, "Trouble came knocking. . I felt violated by campus security, . . their entry into our apartment unanounced. . scaring us completely, . . scaring us completely, violating feeling to have them knock on our bedroom door." Took their pistol and shotgun. Hhrrumph!
You can’t sign away a right even if you try.
Rights can be voted away (ie. 2008 and 2012).
So, did the campus security do anything at all to stop the felon?
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