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Typhoon deaths climb into thousands in Philippines (10,000 just in one city!)
My Way News / The Associated Press ^ | November 10, 2013 | Jim Gomez

Posted on 11/10/2013 6:40:35 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

TACLOBAN, Philippines (AP) - Corpses hung from trees, were scattered on sidewalks or buried in flattened buildings - some of the 10,000 people believed killed in one Philippine city alone by ferocious Typhoon Haiyan that washed away homes and buildings with powerful winds and giant waves.

As the scale of devastation became clear Sunday from one of the worst storms ever recorded, officials projected the death toll could climb even higher when emergency crews reach parts of the archipelago cut off by flooding and landslides. Looters raided grocery stores and gas stations in search of food, fuel and water as the government began relief efforts and international aid operations got underway.

Even in a nation regularly beset by earthquakes, volcanoes and tropical storms, Typhoon Haiyan appears to be the deadliest natural disaster on record...

(Excerpt) Read more at apnews.myway.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: disaster; haiyan; hurricane; philippines; typhoon
Are we sending help? I know that Franklin Graham's organization is.
1 posted on 11/10/2013 6:40:35 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The Philippines are mostly Christian, so I doubt Obama feels much need to help them out.


2 posted on 11/10/2013 6:44:16 PM PST by ClearCase_guy (21st century. I'm not a fan.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

wow

Has the US announced any aid yet? We spend so much on crap, is there anything left?


3 posted on 11/10/2013 6:46:31 PM PST by GeronL
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

George Bush doesn’t care about Filipinos.


4 posted on 11/10/2013 6:47:20 PM PST by nickcarraway
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Dear Lord, I don’t pretend to know why and I don’t understand, so I pray for these people and their souls that they have found peace with You and that those who remain make their peace and rebuild with faith, strength, and courage.


5 posted on 11/10/2013 6:55:17 PM PST by MestaMachine (My caps work. You gotta earn them.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Cue in Al...


6 posted on 11/10/2013 7:00:43 PM PST by TheDon (Inside Every Liberal is a Totalitarian Screaming to Get Out.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

This will be really bad


7 posted on 11/10/2013 7:09:09 PM PST by HereInTheHeartland (Under the Democrats; the Lincoln Memorial is closed; but the southern border is open)
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To: MestaMachine

Amen.


8 posted on 11/10/2013 7:10:28 PM PST by Conspiracy Guy (On the evening of 10/16/13, the ailing republican party breathed its last breath.)
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To: GeronL

my son’s Marine unit was on a float in the pacific when the giant mud slide (’06?) hit the Philippines....bush sent them to help within hours....?
also...it was bush who sent the navy and marines to help after the Tsunami if i remember correctly....

it will be interesting to see what b.o. does....


9 posted on 11/10/2013 7:23:32 PM PST by is_is (VP Dad of Sgt. G - My Hero - "Sleep Well America......Your Marines have your Back")
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Water is always looking for a place to go. If you live near water, at some time it is coming where you are and you can’t stop it.

If you live on an island, the water owns you for it surrounds you and you can’t get off that island once the water starts moving. You will get no help until a plane or ship can get there. If you are on the mainland, help can get to you much faster. You risk your life to live on an island where water rules, you don’t.

The article says, “The nation (the Philippines)is in the northwestern Pacific, right in the path of the world’s No. 1 typhoon generator, according to meteorologists. The archipelago’s exposed eastern seaboard often bears the brunt.”

That group of islands, being where they are, is a disaster waiting to happen over and over and over and this one was the worst that has ever happened.

I’ve lived in Hawaii twice and if ships stopped, Hawaii would stop. At least it’s not in the direct path of where typhoons start like the Philippines are.


10 posted on 11/10/2013 7:24:56 PM PST by Marcella ((Prepping can save your life today. I am a Christian, not a Muslim.))
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“Are we sending help?”

You mean obama/FEMA?

For some thoughts on that take a look at the ‘help’ the Sandy victims in NJ got. And take not of how the national press ignored most of their suffering.


11 posted on 11/10/2013 7:28:39 PM PST by MichaelCorleone (Jesus Christ is not a religion. He's the Truth.)
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To: GeronL

Obama would be sending much more than the paltry $100,000 if the destruction had been on the Muslim parts of the islands.


12 posted on 11/10/2013 7:29:24 PM PST by steve86 (Some things aren't really true but you Something wrong here wouldn't be half surprised if they were.)
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To: Marcella

Isn’t Japan in the northwest Pacific? The Philippines are in insular Southeast Asia.


13 posted on 11/10/2013 7:31:35 PM PST by Ax
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
I was having trouble with our TV tonight. I called Dish Network and after the guy helped me figure out what the problem was and fix it, I asked him where he was. He had an accent that I didn't recognize. He said he was in the Philippines. He said he was in the town that was hardest hit and his house was OK. Surprised me!
14 posted on 11/10/2013 7:31:40 PM PST by Ditter
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To: Marcella

It’s actually hard to tell in many of the photos if the damage was caused by the rapidly advancing storm surge (almost like a tsunami) or by the high winds. In both cases, pretty much everything is knocked flat and piled a meter or so high.


15 posted on 11/10/2013 7:31:45 PM PST by steve86 (Some things aren't really true but you Something wrong here wouldn't be half surprised if they were.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

From reading the article, 10,000 is just one island and they know there are thousands more. A logistic question is, what do you do with 10,000 or 15,000 or 20,000 bodies? Try to visualize that many bodies. They need to be dealt with fairly quickly, so what do you do? How long will it take to gather them? How big a trench does it take to bury that many? Burning would be out of the question I think as it’s difficult to burn an entire body unless you have a really hot fire for a period of time.

That is gruesome to think about but any disaster in this country, such as no power for months, would cause more deaths than that. Remember, November 13 and 14, our country will simulate such a disaster. Are they going to include what to do with a massive number of bodies?


16 posted on 11/10/2013 7:33:59 PM PST by Marcella ((Prepping can save your life today. I am a Christian, not a Muslim.))
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To: Marcella

There were between 6000 and 10,000 killed in the Galveston storm of 1900. They first gathered up bodies and took them out to sea and dumped them. When the tide brought them back to the beach, they piled them up and burned them. My grandfather, a 21 year old carpenter, was part of the crew who had to do the dirty work.


17 posted on 11/10/2013 7:40:29 PM PST by Ditter
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To: steve86

One of the witnesses said the water was as high as a tall coconut tree. And, reading that article, people drowned because the water was so strong, they had no control of where the water sent them. A fella who was in the water said people were washed away and he couldn’t do anything about it because he was trying to save himself.

So, it was a combination of drowning or getting killed by falling debris. I’ve looked at a lot of pictures of those scenes and bodies are in the streets under debris and you know those living people were hunkered down somewhere and not in the streets.


18 posted on 11/10/2013 7:42:47 PM PST by Marcella ((Prepping can save your life today. I am a Christian, not a Muslim.))
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To: MichaelCorleone

“For some thoughts on that take a look at the ‘help’ the Sandy victims in NJ got.”

The response to that really surprised me - I thought Hussein would be on top of that one and it was awful what the people went through with no help coming for days after days. You were risking your life to stay in your still there but damaged house as the lawless were everywhere taking whatever they found.

I would have left before it got there because they were too exposed, too close to the water, but those people don’t live in hurricane country that often. I’m not going to get water but when one is coming through, there is no telling what the wind will do, like rip off my roof, something like that, and I prepare for that. Those people in New Jersey and other places were sitting ducks. People here on the coast, like Galveston, know to leave.


19 posted on 11/10/2013 7:50:58 PM PST by Marcella ((Prepping can save your life today. I am a Christian, not a Muslim.))
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To: Marcella

Think about all the debris that’s in that water, probably not much left of a good number of bodies.


20 posted on 11/10/2013 7:53:00 PM PST by dfwgator (Fire Muschamp.)
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To: Ditter

Yes, living in Texas all my life, I have read about the Galveston destruction. The fact that they, with the tools they had then, raised that island, raised all those houses, was a human miracle. And, there was an orphanage there with Catholic nuns running it, and they all drown. The stories coming out of that disaster were terrible.


21 posted on 11/10/2013 7:55:51 PM PST by Marcella ((Prepping can save your life today. I am a Christian, not a Muslim.))
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To: Marcella

“You risk your life to live on an island where water rules, you don’t.”
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Not all islands are the same. I live on one of the 7,107 islands that make up the Philippines.
While I live on a beach, my municipality (town) is also home to the highest point on Cebu, Osmena peak (over 3000 ft high).
Many, if not most of the islands have very high ground, the highest going up to over 9000 ft.


22 posted on 11/10/2013 7:57:41 PM PST by AlexW
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To: Marcella
And, there was an orphanage there with Catholic nuns running it, and they all drown. The stories coming out of that disaster were terrible.

Absolutely heartbreaking...It was covered extensively in the documentary "Isaac's Storm."

23 posted on 11/10/2013 7:58:00 PM PST by dfwgator (Fire Muschamp.)
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To: Marcella
A logistic question is, what do you do with 10,000 or 15,000 or 20,000 bodies?

Why don't you ask the Japanese? The seemed to figure it out during WWII.

24 posted on 11/10/2013 8:01:46 PM PST by Nachoman (Wisdom is learned, cynicism is earned.)
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To: AlexW

I guess someone didn’t think to tell the way over 10,000+ dead people to walk up the mountain on their island. It is a tragedy for those many thousands dead.


25 posted on 11/10/2013 8:02:46 PM PST by Marcella ((Prepping can save your life today. I am a Christian, not a Muslim.))
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To: Marcella; MichaelCorleone
How did Sandy and its aftermath boost the Mahdi in the election. Preparations by Blue State types in New York City and New Jersey (Crispi presides over a donkey party regime with a pretend RINO as governor) were ragged and disorganized, public order collapsed and the police agencies performed no better than in New Orleans after Katrina, a year after the storm the most battered areas in a large part of the Jersey Shore look as devastated as much of New Orleans a year after Katrina. So how does Crispi and the Mahdi get to continue to dine out on this debacle. I have seen his fatness strutting about events on the Shore several times and no one seems to want to confront him on the lousy state of public facilities.
26 posted on 11/10/2013 8:50:25 PM PST by robowombat
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To: is_is

“my son’s Marine unit was on a float in the pacific when the giant mud slide (’06?) hit the Philippines....bush sent them to help within hours....?
also...it was bush who sent the navy and marines to help after the Tsunami if i remember correctly....

it will be interesting to see what b.o. does....”

First, b.o. will check to see how much help the Huks (muslims) on Mindanao need. Then he will send them, and only them, 10X the amount they request. Then, b.o. will announce that our aid fund for the PI is depleted but he’s really really really really sorry about their losses.


27 posted on 11/10/2013 8:53:05 PM PST by Rembrandt (Part of the 51% who pay Federal taxes)
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To: AlexW

I’ve come across some of your posts before where you talk about living in the Philippines. After hearing about this tragedy I was hoping you were okay:)


28 posted on 11/10/2013 9:25:07 PM PST by kelly4c (http://www.freerepublic.com/perl/post?id=2900389%2C41#help)
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To: robowombat

The msm did their job. hussein looked concerned, he “cared”.


29 posted on 11/10/2013 9:33:21 PM PST by Eagles6 (Valley Forge Redux)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Prayers for these folks.

100% chance that zero will blame this on globull warming. Never let a crisis go to waste.

30 posted on 11/10/2013 9:55:56 PM PST by Eagles6 (Valley Forge Redux)
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To: kelly4c; Myrddin

Yes, we were so lucky. Even though we were in the dark red circle, we had only some above normal wind, but not serious,
and some moderate rain during the night and early morning.
I dot know of any serious damage anywhere in our area.
Zoraida is a tropical depression and I do not think it is expected to reach typhoon class. It should hit us as a tropical storm, maybe on Thursday.


31 posted on 11/10/2013 10:19:07 PM PST by AlexW
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To: AlexW

Hi AlexW,
First it’s nice to hear that you survived unscathed! I’ve been following your Philippines related posts for some time. I’m planning to donate to relief efforts, but hoped to avoid the Red Cross. Have you noticed Salvation Army efforts. Do they have a good reputation in the Philippines? Thanks for any experiences you can convey and God speed.


32 posted on 11/10/2013 11:20:19 PM PST by catbertz
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To: catbertz

This CNN article has a long list of organizations providing relief for the disaster:

http://www.cnn.com/2013/11/09/world/iyw-how-to-help-typhoon-haiyan/index.html


33 posted on 11/10/2013 11:33:05 PM PST by JediJones (The #1 Must-see Filibuster of the Year: TEXAS TED AND THE CONSERVATIVE CRUZ-ADE)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet; All
Media Silent as Muslims Ethnically Cleanse 60,000 Christians in Philippines

I'D BE MORE WORRIED THIS WAS GOING ON !

34 posted on 11/10/2013 11:47:34 PM PST by ATOMIC_PUNK (I'm not afraid to say what i mean nor should you be afraid of what you know to be true !)
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To: Ditter
He said he was in the town that was hardest hit and his house was OK. Surprised me!

Philippine TV stations are all reporting 55 killed. I don't know what is going on.

35 posted on 11/10/2013 11:55:18 PM PST by SandwicheGuy (*The butter acts as a lubricant and speeds up the CPU*ou)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

God help the Filipinos right now.


36 posted on 11/11/2013 12:32:27 AM PST by OldNewYork (Biden '13. Impeach now.)
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To: Ditter

There were between 6000 and 10,000 killed in the Galveston storm of 1900. They first gathered up bodies and took them out to sea and dumped them. When the tide brought them back to the beach, they piled them up and burned them. My grandfather, a 21 year old carpenter, was part of the crew who had to do the dirty work.
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I’m sure I lost some German ancestors in that storm, as well, as they immigrated into Galveston in the 1800s. Had a large dairy farm there and I know there was a road with their surname that went to the airport a few decades ago (don’t know if that’s still the name). Name: Schaper.


37 posted on 11/11/2013 1:07:42 AM PST by octex
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To: catbertz

“Thanks for any experiences you can convey and God speed.”
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Here is a start:
http://www.abs-cbnnews.com/tulong

Also, do a search:
Philippine relief donations... I got this:
http://search.yahoo.com/search;_ylt=A0SO80YbnoBSuxsAxFFXNyoA;_ylc=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?p=Philippine+relief+donations&fr2=sb-top&fr=moz2-ytff-tyc

If you do not find something suitable, I will find other outlets. Thank you for your concern and interest.


38 posted on 11/11/2013 1:09:49 AM PST by AlexW
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To: ATOMIC_PUNK

“I’D BE MORE WORRIED THIS WAS GOING ON !”
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Keep in mind, the Muzies are few in number, and pretty much isolated to a small area of western Mindanao.
In my five years here, I have yet to see a Muzie.
I would be more worried in New York, or Chicago.


39 posted on 11/11/2013 1:15:50 AM PST by AlexW
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To: octex
My grandfather had just come down to Galveston from north Texas to work as a carpenter.

He said he had his carpenter tools so when the water started to rise he drilled holes in the floor down stairs. the water rose without sweeping the house off its foundations like most of the houses around him did. He lived in a room up stairs and there was a corner grocery store down stairs.

The building was still there 20 years ago, I don't know about now. He must have been a powerful story teller because his memories are vivid in my mind. A cousin told me he recorded his stories but the recording has been lost. What I wouldn’t give.........

40 posted on 11/11/2013 6:23:59 AM PST by Ditter
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To: octex
My husband and I lived in Galveston for 2 years in the early 60’s when he was in the USCG, I remember the road to the airport but I don't remember the name. It has changed and built up so much since then I might not even be able to recognize anything.
41 posted on 11/11/2013 6:28:00 AM PST by Ditter
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Just donated to Samaritan’s Purse for direct help to this disaster....AFAIK they are a reputable charity and a large majority goes to the needy...not just administration costs.


42 posted on 11/11/2013 10:15:09 AM PST by chasio649
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To: Ditter

My husband and I lived in Galveston for 2 years in the early 60’s ...
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In the ‘40s-50s, that was our two week vacation every year in July or August. I recall taking the Texas Eagle (T&P RR) from Dallas to Galveston and the return a few times when I was very young, as we didn’t have a car. Dad had to sell his car after WW2 began, because of the rationing of tires, gas, etc. ...I’m a War Baby, born in 1942.

Dad worked for the T&P RR, so got passes or reduced rates. The RR cars’ windows would all be open and the trains we rode were always at night when it was cooler (no a/c in the cars back then). .........I’ve been back many times during my adult life, along with family.

Galveston is a unique place. As a young teen, there was a former gun bunker near the Crockett Courts just across Boardwalk that had been turned into a teen “night club”, with bands playing, etc. ....Back in the ‘40s, I recall that there was also a large outdoor rotating dance floor, like a merry-go-round where they played music of the day and it was crowded with couples dancing.

Just some memories coming out.


43 posted on 11/16/2013 1:33:57 AM PST by octex
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To: octex
Don't you love it when those old memories come seeping out? I was born in 1940 and we lived on the west side of Galveston Bay near Kemah until I was about 3. I remember that old train but we never rode it.

I feel so many ties to Galveston, starting with the memories from my grandfather and his experiencing the 1900 storm.

I have always lived close to the Gulf.

Galveston holds a very special place in my heart.

44 posted on 11/16/2013 6:56:54 AM PST by Ditter
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