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2014: The Collapsing Obamaconomy
Pajamas Media ^ | 11/11/2013 | STEPHEN GREEN

Posted on 11/11/2013 11:00:50 AM PST by SeekAndFind

The good news is the U.S. economy wheezed out 204,000 new jobs in October, despite all the sound and fury (signifying very little) over the 17%, 16-day-long government semi-demi-shutdown. The bad news is pretty much everything else, so let’s take a look at what lies underneath the big headline number.

CNBC put a happy face on the latest jobs report with the headline, “Shutdown slowdown? Job creation soars in October.” [1] It’s true that 204,000 is a bit higher than the recent average of 190,000, but the story’s very first paragraph belies the word “soars.” Read:

There were a net 204,000 new jobs created for the month, though the unemployment rate [2] rose to 7.3 percent and households reported a huge drop in employment, the Bureau of Labor Statistics said. A separate measure that includes the underemployed and those who have quit looking also moved higher, from 13.6 percent to 13.8 percent.

The story goes on to quote Moody’s Mark Zandi who called the jobs report “bizarre,” and said that he “wouldn’t be surprised if this gets revised to some degree…down.” So much for the downward revision to come “unexpectedly,” [3] which is the word Reuters uses to describe the recent drop in U.S. consumer confidence:

The Thomson Reuters/University of Michigan’s preliminary reading on the overall index of consumer sentiment fell to 72.0 in November, its lowest since December 2011. That was lower than both October’s final reading of 73.2 and the 74.5 economists had expected this month.

Lower-income households in particular worried about their future financial state.

Lower-income households are right to be worried, in particular and in general — because their prospects aren’t looking so good. Consumer spending slowed last month on a “deceptively weak” GDP report. A big chunk of last quarter’s GDP growth was business inventories increasing on weak demand, and weak imports — another sign of weakening demand — also made growth appear bigger than it actually was.

The reason can best be summed up by Matt Nesto’s jobs story [4] for Yahoo Finance:

“It’s a weird report” says Zachary Karabell, the head of global strategy at Envestnet and founder of River Twice Research in the attached video. “It’s people tending bar. It’s lower wage retail jobs. It’s lower wage health services jobs” that the economy is creating, and “a lot of these are not particularly well paid and they don’t have a great future.”

And that’s a problem. Not only for the 14-million American who are still out of work and looking to get hired, but more broadly, it undercuts the entire economy.

“If you’re earning $18,000 a year as a bartender, that’s not going to translate into massive consumer spending,” Karabell says.

How does that bartender compare with a bartender from last year? He’s not really doing any better at all. BLS reports that wages were 1.7% higher [5] than last year, but that prices rose 1.6% during that same timeframe. That raise of one-tenth of one percent isn’t likely to result in a robust Christmas shopping season.

Of course, that $18k bartender might be feeling pretty lucky compared to the nearly three quarters of a million Americans who simply gave up and left the labor force — just in October. Breitbart.com’s Mike Flynn writes that “this exodus pushed the labor force participation rate down to 62.8%, the lowest level since 1978.” [6] Flynn adds that the number of Americans with jobs actually fell by 735,000 despite the creation of those 204,000 new jobs.

The real fun might begin next month, when Healthcare.gov is supposed to be up and running, and ready to deal with the expected rush of millions seeking new insurance policies before the New Year. Let’s assume that the site is functioning well enough, even if only barely, and that the state exchanges are up and running, too. Millions are going to find themselves facing the twin devils of higher premiums and higher deductibles. That means they’ll take home less pay, and have to sock away more money into savings. The resulting reduction in consumer spending — 70% of the U.S. economy — could be a body blow to our already weak growth.

Or suppose the rush never materializes, since only 22% of the uninsured [7] actually plan on buying ObamaCare policies. That’s the “death spiral” insurers fear, when rising prices force out the young and healthy, leaving them with nobody but the old and sick. At the start of the new year, our economy might just be looking at a collapsing insurance industry, declining consumer spending, rising underemployment, and a shrinking labor force — all at once.

So if you’re lucky enough to be one of the employed and insured and the healthy, be sure to give your bartender a bigger tip. And tell him to make it a double.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 2014; economy; laborforce

1 posted on 11/11/2013 11:00:50 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

The Democrats have to destroy the economy before government can rush in and “save us” with totalitarian Socialism...


2 posted on 11/11/2013 11:02:33 AM PST by PATRIOT1876
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To: SeekAndFind

I pointed out on another thread that Baraq could pad his stats by hiring a half million clerks to work on Obamacare.
Dump the website, move to telephones and paper.

Heck the census hired 635,000 clerks.


3 posted on 11/11/2013 11:03:22 AM PST by nascarnation (Baraq's 3rd term: squaw Warren? Lord help us!)
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To: SeekAndFind

“a lot of these [jobs] are not particularly well paid and they don’t have a great future.”

Wage Slave Bump!


4 posted on 11/11/2013 11:04:02 AM PST by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set...)
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To: SeekAndFind

They’ll try to keep it afloat longer,
but everything’s crashing down in Sept 2015.


5 posted on 11/11/2013 11:05:00 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: MrB
"...but everything’s crashing down in Sept 2015."

Sounds about right - I don't have us lasting to the 2016 elections.
It may not be one big catastrophic bang, but a series of small ones as our economy slowly grinds to a halt, with a corresponding ratcheting up of civil mayhem as the natives get ever more desperate.
The year 2016 will be ugly fer' sure - probably bloody, too.
Of course, I'm a bit of an optimist........

6 posted on 11/11/2013 11:12:20 AM PST by Psalm 73 ("Gentlemen, you can't fight in here - this is the War Room".)
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To: Psalm 73

Have you heard of Jonathan Cahn and “The Harbinger”?


7 posted on 11/11/2013 11:13:43 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: MrB
Can you hum a few bars....?

Really, though, just looked the book up - hmmmm, may bump it to the top of my lengthy "to read" list.

8 posted on 11/11/2013 11:17:34 AM PST by Psalm 73 ("Gentlemen, you can't fight in here - this is the War Room".)
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Obama is a disciple of Saul Alinsky and the Cloward-Piven Strategy!

What more would an active media really need if it were intent on doing its job?

9 posted on 11/11/2013 11:17:46 AM PST by Baynative (Wake me up early, be good to my dogs and teach my children to pray.)
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To: MrB

RE: but everything’s crashing down in Sept 2015.

What happens in Nov. 2014?


10 posted on 11/11/2013 11:19:19 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: Psalm 73

Audio interview:
http://www.oneplace.com/ministries/understanding-the-times/listen/the-harbinger-is-this-americas-final-warning-272761.html


11 posted on 11/11/2013 11:22:04 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: SeekAndFind

Probably some meaningless thing called an “election” in which two mafia families compete for being the top criminals in the country...

just guessing, though.


12 posted on 11/11/2013 11:33:18 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: MrB
but everything’s crashing down in Sept 2015.

Better have all your preps on hand by then.

13 posted on 11/11/2013 11:38:47 AM PST by SVTCobra03 (You can never have enough friends, horsepower or ammunition.)
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To: MrB

“They’ll try to keep it afloat longer,
but everything’s crashing down in Sept 2015.”

And what really stinks is that the economy was actually starting to substantially recover before the ‘stimulus spending’.


14 posted on 11/11/2013 12:48:45 PM PST by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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To: SeekAndFind

Planned to fail to usher in single payer as the savior of healthcare


15 posted on 11/11/2013 1:37:47 PM PST by ronnie raygun
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To: SeekAndFind
“If you’re earning $18,000 a year as a bartender, that’s not going to translate into massive consumer spending,” Karabell says.

This has been my drumbeat to the CEOs and pols ever since NAFTA started. "All you are doing is laying off each others customers. What happens to your bottom line when nobody is able to buy your products because they are just making subsistence wages?"

Replies ranged from a pat-on-the-head "Global competition is good", to it's twin, "Free Trade is good". (The last was defined as "we drop our tariffs now, someday they drop theirs".)

16 posted on 11/11/2013 3:57:31 PM PST by Oatka (This is America. Assimilate or evaporate.)
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To: nascarnation

I pointed out on another thread that Baraq could pad his stats by hiring a half million clerks to work on Obamacare.
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A great illustration of the current state of madness is the fact that if exactly that were to be done the half million clerks who would be nothing more than an added drain on the economy would be counted as new jobs created just as if they were doing productive work. Insanity!!!!


17 posted on 11/11/2013 4:38:02 PM PST by RipSawyer (The TREE currently falling on you actually IS worse than a Bush.)
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To: Oatka

What happens to your bottom line when nobody is able to buy your products because they are just making subsistence wages?”
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Grandpappy would have said, “It sho nuff do seem lak da workin folks got tuh thinkin dey cud have dirt cheap prices an high pay at da same time and da zecutives got tuh thinkin dey cud have dirt cheap labor an big spendin customers at da same time. It seem lak dat ain’t workin out too good fo da workin class an it liable not tuh work out too good fo dem zecutives in da end. I speck we might have sum real sho nuff hard times ahead.”


18 posted on 11/11/2013 5:09:15 PM PST by RipSawyer (The TREE currently falling on you actually IS worse than a Bush.)
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