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The secret, dirty cost of Obama's green power push
AP ^ | November 12, 2013 | DINA CAPPIELLO and MATT APUZZO

Posted on 11/12/2013 5:45:29 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife

"................... Even under the government's optimistic projections, the ethanol mandate wasn't going to reduce greenhouse gas right away. And with the model so far off from reality, independent scientists say it's hard to make an argument for ethanol as a global warming policy.

"I'd have to think really hard to come up with a scenario where it's a net positive," said Silvia Secchi, a Southern Illinois University agriculture economist.

She paused a few moments, then added, "I'm stumped."

In June, when Obama gave a major policy speech on reducing greenhouse gas, he didn't mention ethanol. Biofuels in general received a brief, passing reference.

What was once billed as an environmental boon has morphed into a government program to help rural America survive.

"I don't know whether I can make the environmental argument, or the economic argument," Vilsack said in an interview with the AP. "To me, it's an opportunity argument."................"

(Excerpt) Read more at apnews.myway.com ...


TOPICS: Government
KEYWORDS: energy; environment; epa; ethanol; green; obama

1 posted on 11/12/2013 5:45:29 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Americans are going to have one hell of a mess to clean up once the Kenyan boy is out of the White House. Geez. What were those idiot DemocRAT “voters” thinking?! The promise of free stuff wasn’t worth the destruction of America.


2 posted on 11/12/2013 5:48:26 AM PST by FlingWingFlyer (From a Nation of Laws to a Nation of Lies in just one election. Amazing.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Generally, here in my part of Kentucky, the farmers HATE the ethanol mandates. It really messes up farm machinery that does use Gasoline. And much of that type of machinery is **OLD**, repaired and taken care of with loving hands.

It’s cheaper in the long run to do that than to by new stuff as one of the old farmers here told me. He showed me an old seed drill that had been rebuilt twice and would be good for another five or so years of hard work. Buying new is nice, but he and the others like him remember their grandparents losing so much to the banks back in the depression and they refuse to mortgage anything or buy on credit.

And those who do have to buy formulated feed for some of their herds hate the price increases that the Ethanol mandates have pushed onto the feed market.


3 posted on 11/12/2013 6:04:07 AM PST by The Working Man
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

With a lib, there are unintended consequences.

they are ALWATS present.


4 posted on 11/12/2013 6:20:08 AM PST by bestintxas (Obamacare = Obamascrew)
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To: bestintxas

Libs really have no interest in the actual outcomes of the policies they advocate.

As far as they are concerned, once the policy is advocated for and implemented, the goal has been reached.

They are now officially a “good person” for advocating the policy.

Telling them of the failures of that policy is a personal attack on their righteousness and will not be listened to or tolerated.


5 posted on 11/12/2013 6:22:23 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: FlingWingFlyer

You think Hillary will clean this up??? Rotflmao.


6 posted on 11/12/2013 6:30:41 AM PST by Williams (No Obama)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

—thankfully ,this article or a variation is all over the mid-western news media this morning—

—those of us who have been aware of the foolishness of ethanol can fell a bit justified—

—the price per bushel of corn, BTW , for those who don’t pay attention to commodities has gone from $7.00 to below $4.50 over the last few months-—


7 posted on 11/12/2013 6:36:06 AM PST by rellimpank (--don't believe anything the media or government says about firearms or explosives--)
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To: rellimpank; All

—for example—

http://host.madison.com/wsj/news/local/environment/as-environmental-costs-mount-many-question-ethanol-as-green-power/article_84a40c09-5a2f-5eb7-b46c-4f7c14a57da1.html?comment_form=true#_=_


8 posted on 11/12/2013 7:04:19 AM PST by rellimpank (--don't believe anything the media or government says about firearms or explosives--)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Even worse for Ethanol’s “green” credentials is that the enviros conveniently forget the nearly one ton of carbon dioxide produced by the yeasts for each ton of ethanol they make.


9 posted on 11/12/2013 7:39:08 AM PST by catnipman (uil)
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To: MrB

Shocking maps of the corn belt showing how many more counties are planting corn. ND most affected.

http://hosted.ap.org/interactives/2013/ethanol/


10 posted on 11/12/2013 7:46:47 AM PST by bgill (This reply was mined before it was posted.)
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To: bgill

Government, once again, skewing the market with perverse incentives.


11 posted on 11/12/2013 7:56:39 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: catnipman

I trap that yeast byproduct in home brew as my contribution to reducing atmospheric CO2. I “condition” mine in the bottle.

Cheers,

The NappyOne


12 posted on 11/12/2013 8:26:33 AM PST by NappyOne
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Ouch!

What If?

The whole scam came falling down around the libs&dems necks

like a colombian neck tie.. a winnie flamer..

just hope the wind turbines blow the fumes

Forward.. towards the WH.


13 posted on 11/12/2013 8:38:10 AM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
"With the Iowa political caucuses on the horizon in 2007, presidential candidate Barack Obama made homegrown corn a centerpiece of his plan to slow global warming. And when President George W. Bush signed a law that year requiring oil companies to add billions of gallons of ethanol to their gasoline each year, Bush predicted it would make the country "stronger, cleaner and more secure."

That's cute. I bet quite a few people even fell for it.
14 posted on 11/12/2013 1:07:51 PM PST by af_vet_rr
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To: The Working Man

Apparently the big ag businesses like ADM love ethanol. Otherwise we wouldn’t see so many farm state politicians of both parties pushing it.


15 posted on 11/18/2013 12:15:53 PM PST by Pining_4_TX (All those who were appointed to eternal life believed. Acts 13:48)
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