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Policy keeping girls off boys' wrestling team prevents 'undesired contact of sensual body parts,'
PennLive.com ^ | November 12, 2013 | John Beauge

Posted on 11/12/2013 1:06:25 PM PST by ConservativeInPA

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To: Boogieman
Girl Wrestler Pins Massachusetts State Championship Title

Danielle Coughlin, a senior at North Andover High School and the captain of the varsity wrestling team, took the title in the 106-pound weight class at the state's Division II tournament on Wednesday.


81 posted on 11/12/2013 2:47:57 PM PST by mmichaels1970
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To: ilovesarah2012

The quote i was replying to was:

“Girls should compete with girls, boys should compete with boys.”

There was no specific reference to touching in that comment.

If you don’t want your children to play in a contact sport that allows touching opposite sex players, then it is on you to pull your kid.

Soccer and field hockey are both contact. Swimming requires children to wear minimal clothes.

Everyone has their own personal limits. We can’t allow every individual to dictate there moral line on everyone or we will have an American Taliban.

As you can read here, the people that are closest to the sports have the least worry about coed players.


82 posted on 11/12/2013 2:49:04 PM PST by Bartholomew Roberts
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To: Bartholomew Roberts

Wait until they’re 16.

First total domination 13-1 match ending with the male wrestler sporting the Abominable Woody, and it will be lawsuits by the singlet-ful.

Wait until someone accuses him of ‘grinding it in’ late in the match.

It’s a stupid idea - plain and simple.

Just have boys and girls wrestling, and leave it at that.


83 posted on 11/12/2013 2:49:09 PM PST by RinaseaofDs
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To: Boogieman; All
And from 2006:

Vision quest Alaskan girl wins state H.S. wrestling title over boys

ANCHORAGE, Alaska (AP) -- Michaela Hutchison became the first girl in the nation to win a state high school wrestling title while competing against boys.

Hutchison won the final of the 103-pound weight class during Alaska's big school wrestling championships. The Skyview High sophomore entered the state tournament ranked No. 1 in her weight class.

84 posted on 11/12/2013 2:49:53 PM PST by mmichaels1970
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To: ConservativeInPA

Here’s the thing - it’s the same for all of these situations:
When I was college age I didn’t mind playing touch/flag football with the girls...provided they did not ask or expect special treatment for being girls.

One winter a bunch of us were playing touch in the Kibbie Dome on the University of Idaho campus. I played D-line and was beating the guy across from me like a drum, so they decided to put a girl across from my, expecting my generally gentlemanly nature to slow my roll...BAD MOVE! It had been a while since I’d played any kind of football, and I LOVED the contact, and my high school coach taught us that there are no gentlemen on the football field. On the sidelines, on the street, in class, on campus - we’d darn well better be gentlemen, but on the field we were to be brutes.

Well, I beat that female opponent like a drum on a rented mule led by a red-headed stepchild. A gracious, godly couple in town opened their home to all the college aged kids in the local church. After this particular game, some of the girls complained to the lady of the house about how rough I was. LOL - her response was, “Good for him! You were playing football weren’t you?”

ANYHOW - if you want to play the game and are willing to take your licks like everybody else - I have no problem, except I think most girls (and their parents) would be foolish to compete with the boys.

How does the coach teach a move to a girl? JUST LIKE HE DOES TO A BOY! If she doesn’t like the close contact...go play volleyball or tennis or softball.

How does a boy wrestle a girl? JUST EXACTLY LIKE HE WRESTLES A GUY! Forget about the “parts”, Just get in there and put the hurt on your opponent.

Now guy cheerleaders? Now THERE’S the deal! Tell be those guys don’t have a great time!


85 posted on 11/12/2013 2:50:04 PM PST by GilesB
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To: Bartholomew Roberts

You missed the “grab and squeeze body parts”. There is a difference in the competitions you listed and full body contact that occurs in wrestling. My son wrestled in middle school and his twin sister was a team manager. I’m glad that is as close as she got to wrestling.

To compare those who don’t think boys and girls should be grabbing each other to the Taliban is a little warped.


86 posted on 11/12/2013 2:52:21 PM PST by ilovesarah2012
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To: GeronL

So now you’re going to be coy and pretend you didn’t aim that at me? It’s not cute when 0bama plays that game and it’s not cute from you either.


87 posted on 11/12/2013 2:52:37 PM PST by TigersEye (Stupid is a Progressive disease.)
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To: mmichaels1970

Haha, ok, looks like they can be competitive in the weight classes around 100 pounds too. Let me know when they win something in a class with a guy that weighs enough to actually have some muscle mass.


88 posted on 11/12/2013 2:56:13 PM PST by Boogieman
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Let me know when they win something in a class with a guy that weighs enough to actually have some muscle mass.

When I was a freshman, I wrestled 98lbs. As a soph, I wrestled 119. If girls are competitive in the lower weight classes but not in the higher ones, so what. That's why we starved ourselves and dehydrated ourselves to wrestle in the weight class we did...to compete where we would be the most competitive.

I agree that most if not all girls would probably be terrible at 160. But she can make a heck of a wrestler at 113.
89 posted on 11/12/2013 2:59:46 PM PST by mmichaels1970
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To: TigersEye

I didn’t aim my original post at you, when I get a thought I want to post I click the nearest REPLY button and start typing.


90 posted on 11/12/2013 3:00:47 PM PST by GeronL
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To: TigersEye

As I said, there was no insult in the post. There was nothing insulting there, period. There was nothing in the post warranty such a hostile response even if I did “aim” it at someone.


91 posted on 11/12/2013 3:03:15 PM PST by GeronL
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To: Bartholomew Roberts
We can’t allow every individual to dictate there moral line on everyone or we will have an American Taliban.

when the immoral ones are the ones doing the dictating, what do we have?

92 posted on 11/12/2013 3:04:06 PM PST by GeronL
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To: ilovesarah2012

It was highly insulting, right?

:p


93 posted on 11/12/2013 3:05:11 PM PST by GeronL
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To: Mathews

Girls wrestling in high school. is nothing new. I am surprised it is still an issue. I wrestled in HS back in the ‘80s and there were two girls on my team. I see a lot of uninformed conjecture in this thread. When I wrestled a girl the last thing on my mind was T&A. You just didn’t want to lose to a girl and winning the match is all you think about!


94 posted on 11/12/2013 3:08:08 PM PST by lodi90
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Girls wrestling in high school. is nothing new.

I wasn't on the wrestling team, but I always let the girl pin me.

95 posted on 11/12/2013 3:09:42 PM PST by Alaska Wolf (I)
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To: GeronL

It’s not insulting to say that FReepers are buying into the leftist agenda? Okey dokey.


96 posted on 11/12/2013 3:10:35 PM PST by TigersEye (Stupid is a Progressive disease.)
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To: ConservativeInPA

What a screwed up country...


97 posted on 11/12/2013 3:13:36 PM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: GeronL

Equating someone who doesn’t think boys and girls should wrestle each other with the Taliban is indeed highly insulting.


98 posted on 11/12/2013 3:14:29 PM PST by ilovesarah2012
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To: Bartholomew Roberts
Man, are you guys out of touch. I’ve got an 11 year old boy that plays football, hockey and wrestles. Every one of his teams has or has had girls on them. No standout girls in football but one of the leading scorers on his hockey team is a girl. There are four girls on his team of 16. In wrestling, there are three girls on the squad. Two are not good at all but have continued to wrestle for three years. A new girl on the squad last year won the City Tournament and went to State. She’s only 10 but won several matches at State. She’ll probably win State this year as she has gone to every clinic and camp the parents could send her to. The only problem they’ve encountered has been a-hole dads that say unbelievably terrible things to them at matches.

I've coached hockey for years (travel and house leagues). When I coached Peewee, we had several girls who played on the team. They were decent players. By the time the kids were in Midget, not a single girl was left.

If you honestly think you can compare the abilities of 10 year-olds (where girls mature slightly faster) and teenagers (after boys have hit puberty), you are delusional to the point of ridiculousness. High-school-aged girls are inferior at EVERY sport they would compete against boys in. Even the best girl player would struggle to compete against the mediocre high school age boys. You are letting your ideology blind you to reality.

99 posted on 11/12/2013 3:18:53 PM PST by Charles H. (The_r0nin) (Hwaet! Lar bith maest hord, sothlice!)
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To: HiTech RedNeck
Respecting the other person's body is contrary to the sport of wrestling. Putting damage and pain on your opponents body is kinda mandatory. No outright bell ringing (testes), but respecting the other person's body doesn't play into the strategy.
100 posted on 11/12/2013 3:22:50 PM PST by Mathews (Ecclesiastes 10:2 (NIV), Luke 22:36 (NIV))
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