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Under Health Care Act, Millions Eligible for Free Policies
NY Times ^ | 11/03/2013 | REED ABELSON and KATIE THOMAS

Posted on 11/12/2013 6:45:28 PM PST by Kid Shelleen

Millions of people could qualify for federal subsidies that will pay the entire monthly cost of some health care plans being offered in the online marketplaces set up under President Obama’s health care law, a surprising figure that has not garnered much attention, ---snip-- Independence Blue Cross in Philadelphia has four plans that are free to some customers. But the company, along with other insurers, has been careful not to publicize its free coverage for fear of alienating customers who will need to pay more.

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TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: Pennsylvania
KEYWORDS: abortion; deathpanels; obamacare; zerocare

1 posted on 11/12/2013 6:45:28 PM PST by Kid Shelleen
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To: Kid Shelleen

Free for single women and “minorities” only.


2 posted on 11/12/2013 6:47:55 PM PST by kneehurts
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To: Kid Shelleen

...a surprising figure that has not garnered much attention...

It’s only a surprise for the “pass the bill to find out what’s in it” Marxist.


3 posted on 11/12/2013 6:48:24 PM PST by Oldeconomybuyer (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.)
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To: Kid Shelleen

But the company, along with other insurers, has been careful not to publicize its free coverage for fear of alienating customers who will need to pay more.


Ya, think?


4 posted on 11/12/2013 6:49:28 PM PST by rbg81
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To: kneehurts

with a whopping deductible and big copays.
is that mentioned, i didn’t bother reading.
i remember a time when if you were willing to take a large deductible on auto or fire insurance, that the premiums were neglible


5 posted on 11/12/2013 6:50:46 PM PST by dontreadthis
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To: Kid Shelleen

“Under my health care policies, prices will necessarily skyrocket.” Way to go there lyin’ king. But you can keep them if you like them. Actually you’ll do what the hell I tell ya and you’ll like it.


6 posted on 11/12/2013 6:50:55 PM PST by rktman (Under my plan(scheme), the price of EVERYTHING will necessarily skyrocket! Period.)
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To: Kid Shelleen

There is no “free” lunch. Someone (me!) is getting stuck with the over-inflated bill!


7 posted on 11/12/2013 6:53:28 PM PST by Monitor ("The urge to save humanity is almost always a false-front for the urge to rule it." - H. L. Mencken)
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To: Kid Shelleen

FREE

There’s that word again...


8 posted on 11/12/2013 6:54:33 PM PST by servo1969
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To: Kid Shelleen

Anyone who thinks the Republicans can just sit on their hands waiting for Obamacare to “implode” and then win seats in 2014 had better take this seriously. Obamacare is designed to replace every single voter who is hit with cancelled policies and higher premiums with several bought-and-paid-for Government Gravy Train voters.


9 posted on 11/12/2013 6:58:28 PM PST by Junk Silver
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To: servo1969

In the next phase certain irresponsible citizens will actually get paid for going to the doctor.


10 posted on 11/12/2013 6:59:33 PM PST by Kid Shelleen (Beat your plowshares into swords. Let the weak say I am strong)
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To: Kid Shelleen

Obamacare is a huge problem for the govt right now.
But it was designed by the Chicago mob.
And many, many Dem voters will not be unhappy with the end result (medicaid, subsidies, waivers, etc).
This article alludes to it.


11 posted on 11/12/2013 6:59:52 PM PST by nascarnation (Baraq's 3rd term: squaw Warren? Lord help us!)
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To: Junk Silver

You are correct.
This aspect of the program is not well understood on FR.
The Chicago mob lives on by rewarding supporters and penalizing opponents.


12 posted on 11/12/2013 7:02:21 PM PST by nascarnation (Baraq's 3rd term: squaw Warren? Lord help us!)
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To: dontreadthis

actually that’s what health “insurance” should be
not pre-paid medical care


13 posted on 11/12/2013 7:03:32 PM PST by nascarnation (Baraq's 3rd term: squaw Warren? Lord help us!)
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To: Kid Shelleen

So they have no premium, but are on the hook for the first $12,700.

My “not real insurance but I’m too stupid to know it” catastrophic plan made a lot more sense.


14 posted on 11/12/2013 7:04:13 PM PST by ToastedHead
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To: ToastedHead

In my view there are two things that must be done to control costs

1) cut the tie between employment and med coverage

2) make policies that are not insurance but are actually prepaid medical care reflect that true cost.


15 posted on 11/12/2013 7:06:30 PM PST by nascarnation (Baraq's 3rd term: squaw Warren? Lord help us!)
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To: nascarnation

agreed.


16 posted on 11/12/2013 7:09:08 PM PST by dontreadthis
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To: nascarnation

“The Chicago mob lives on by rewarding supporters and penalizing opponents.”

Absolutely. It’s small business owners and entrepreneurs who are hit hardest by these changes, not exactly the Democrat party’s core constituency. Meanwhile an astonishing amount of America’s wealth is being distributed to the radical Left through the Navigator program, the new Mental Health Clinics and magical never-ending subsidies.

Government sanctioned looting is all this is.


17 posted on 11/12/2013 7:09:57 PM PST by Junk Silver
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To: nascarnation

I’ve had a few really crappy jobs I’ve stayed at longer than intended just because I was afraid of the coverage gap during the job hop (and much too cheap to pay the Cobra.)

More recently it occurred to me that I could have my own portable policy, so I’ve had my own catastrophic. (Freedom!)

I’m hoping to see people doing more price shopping now with the higher deductibles. And less waste overall. My whole life I’ve seen people getting 2 or 3 “placebo” type rxs in the middle of the night from the ER. Now if they have to pay up first, they’ll stay home and stop giving me their damn colds.


18 posted on 11/12/2013 7:23:18 PM PST by ToastedHead
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To: Kid Shelleen
Any family making under $95,000 combined income is able to get a freebie subsidy from barry.

Which is actually OUR money.

Sounds like he and val have planned things to get even more people beholden to the govt.

With our own money.

What the hell is wrong with this picture?

19 posted on 11/12/2013 7:29:35 PM PST by Slyfox (Satan's goal is to rub out the image of God he sees in the face of every human.)
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To: Kid Shelleen

It’s not “free” when the non-freeloader type people are having to pay MORE for THEIR policies.


20 posted on 11/12/2013 7:30:41 PM PST by FlingWingFlyer (Millions are losing their healthcare thanks to ObamaCare! What a country!!!)
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To: Kid Shelleen

Hurray. More free stuff.


21 posted on 11/12/2013 7:39:25 PM PST by PGR88
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To: Slyfox
Any family making under $95,000 combined income is able to get a freebie subsidy from barry. Which is actually OUR money.

We are eligible for a subsidy (which we refuse to take). At the same time our deductibles are going way up along with hospital stay costs. So in effect it's paying more to get a subsidy.

22 posted on 11/12/2013 7:43:35 PM PST by what's up
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To: Kid Shelleen

So, you go! Ole Gay Lady, an ring that FREE bell. Slut.


23 posted on 11/12/2013 7:52:51 PM PST by glock rocks (Wasn't prohibition the "Law of the land?" Wasn't "the earth is flat" proven science? Charlatans!)
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To: Kid Shelleen

Good. I’ll take a side of 0bamaphone and a pony to go with it.


24 posted on 11/12/2013 8:12:18 PM PST by Drango (A liberal's compassion is limited only by the size of someone else's wallet.)
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To: Kid Shelleen

Premium free with a $10,000 deductible, is that really insurance?


25 posted on 11/12/2013 8:23:20 PM PST by Graybeard58 (_.. ._. .. _. _._ __ ___ ._. . ___ ..._ ._ ._.. _ .. _. .)
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To: Kid Shelleen

This is the community organizer’s base. The only ones he has a thought for. I thought it was obvious when he ran the first time and when Obamacare was passed.


26 posted on 11/12/2013 8:42:51 PM PST by JimSEA
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To: kneehurts

Elisabeth and Mark Horst [pictured at link] look pretty comfy . Like they just woke up. Everyday is alike … Monday through Sunday, no work, get up, have some eggs, go back to sleep.

Call yourself an “artist’ like Elisabeth and Mark Horst.

Can’t be bothered to take care of themselves. I have to work my fingers to the bone to provide free healthcare to these leaches!!

Sorry.


27 posted on 11/12/2013 8:50:40 PM PST by BunnySlippers (I LOVE BULL MARKETS . . .)
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To: Graybeard58

Look at the two people they are referring to at the link. They make $12,000 annually, each.

Sigh.


28 posted on 11/12/2013 8:51:56 PM PST by BunnySlippers (I LOVE BULL MARKETS . . .)
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To: Kid Shelleen

As I understand it, even the poor need to pay their very high deductibles, and then pay for the healthcare at the time of service... the magical “free” subsidies don’t come back to them until their tax check the next year. Exactly how many poor or lower-middle-class folks can afford even a $2,000 medical bill, let alone a $20,000 bill... all based on the promise that they get a chunk of it back sometime next year!??


29 posted on 11/12/2013 9:06:39 PM PST by Teacher317 (Obama is failing faster than I can lower my expectations.)
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To: Kid Shelleen

The New York Times is selling tickets for Titanic’s return Voyage from New York City.


30 posted on 11/12/2013 9:47:00 PM PST by Mike Darancette (Do The Math)
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To: BunnySlippers

I put in a 17 hour work day recently, I feel angry that I have to work so hard to take care of bums like the ones profiled in the article.

I don’t mind helping truly needy people, but that’s charity.

Taking from the productive and giving to the lazy is theft.
The Dem’s think there is no limit to what they can get away with. They are wrong.


31 posted on 11/12/2013 10:15:11 PM PST by crusher2013
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To: Kid Shelleen

No, they’re NOT free.

They’re paid for by money confiscated from hard-working Americans who would prefer to keep their wages for their OWN families.


32 posted on 11/13/2013 3:00:29 AM PST by Jack Hammer
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To: Kid Shelleen

People that get things “free” from the government MUST undergo drug testing on a monthly basis. Clear and simple! Nothing should be free to people who are capable of working.


33 posted on 11/13/2013 3:48:23 AM PST by New Jersey Realist (America: home of the free because of the brave)
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To: Kid Shelleen

What people still are not talking about is what you are getting whether it is free or you pay.

So you have a free policy. Will you get to see a doctor quickly? Will you have to travel to a doctor or hospital? Will the rationing boards give you less care and hope you die?
Who is on those rationing boards? Do we know yet? Who are these people that make decisions for your doctor and you?

Most thing a person gets that are free aren’t usually too good. I know a few on Medicaid. It is third world care.


34 posted on 11/13/2013 3:56:16 AM PST by dforest
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To: dontreadthis

I would take free insurance with large deductibles....any day of the week.
That just means I would pay for my own doc visits and meds unless I got really sick. I think that is quite the deal since we currently pay $1k a month for insurance.
I could save that money and pay as we go.


35 posted on 11/13/2013 8:16:59 AM PST by sheana
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