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1 posted on 11/13/2013 10:32:38 AM PST by Para-Ord.45
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2 posted on 11/13/2013 10:34:20 AM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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Maybe just once the GOP could try telling American voters the truth? Just for the hell of it?

The truth is on our side here, we gain nothing from perpetuating this bullsh*t scam on the American people. There is no “Keeping Your Plan” anymore. That train has long since left the station. The only thing that anything short of total repeal of the ACA is going to accomplish is to help Democrats in the 2014 election.


3 posted on 11/13/2013 10:38:53 AM PST by Junk Silver
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No, it's not a trap, it's...
The Tao of Republican Orthodoxy!
4 posted on 11/13/2013 10:39:14 AM PST by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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Landrieu, Feinstein and all the other so-called "progressive" regressives simply don't understand the real problem though:

The problem is that the "fix" just involves more coercive intrusion on the rights of individuals, on intrusion into and distortion of the insurance marketplace, on the future quality and proliferation of health care providers, and the damaging impact that their own regressive and arrogant assumptions is having on real individual American citizens and their families.

Just who do the Clintons, the Obamas, the Landrieu's, the Feinsteins--no matter how good they believe their intentions are--believe they are? That great intellectual freedom fighter, Author of the Declaration of Independence, and former President may have, inadvertently, identified them in the following quotation:

"The mass of mankind has not been born with saddles on their backs, nor a favored few booted and spurred, ready to ride them legitimately." —Thomas Jefferson

5 posted on 11/13/2013 10:39:17 AM PST by loveliberty2
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They don't care. They know it all right. They just don't care.

Kabuki Theater. Sit back and enjoy the show ! God knows you've paid for it.

7 posted on 11/13/2013 10:41:31 AM PST by onona (The Earth is the insane asylum for the universe (yup, I belong))
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This has all the earmarks of a deal the RINO party just CAN’T resist.

Only a fool would expect them to resist.
We are not foolish men/women
Therefor, we do not expect them to resist.


8 posted on 11/13/2013 10:43:17 AM PST by GilesB
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If Obama’s Socialized Health Insurance Tax has little or no chance of financial success in 5 years, then why do Federal politicians in “both” political parties try to replace instead of ABOLISH Obamacare?


9 posted on 11/13/2013 10:43:31 AM PST by Graewoulf (Democrats' Obamacare Socialist Health Insur. Tax violates U.S. Constitution AND Anti-Trust Law.)
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Don't shoot! Let 'em BURN!

10 posted on 11/13/2013 10:43:33 AM PST by Jim Noble (When strong, avoid them. Attack their weaknesses. Emerge to their surprise.)
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If Boner could barrow a spine and do a news conference. He should say,

“Because Obamacare was shoved downs our throats and the SCOTUS upheld it, we have been trying to fix it. There are no good fixes for this. It’s like trying to get a plane to fly without wings. Before it’s too late, we need to repeal the whole bill and start over. That’s what the House of Reps will now support. Nothing else will legally fix this.”


11 posted on 11/13/2013 10:44:12 AM PST by Tenacious 1 (Liberals want to be eaten last. I don't want to be eaten at all!)
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13 posted on 11/13/2013 10:45:41 AM PST by Yo-Yo
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I wish a responsible rep. would step up and say; "look, we don't want it to work, because it will be worse for all Americans if it does. It will destroy our freedoms, it will turn us into chattel, it will destroy this country forever".

I am glad its failing and I hope the disaster speeds up.

16 posted on 11/13/2013 10:46:39 AM PST by Pietro
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The GOP should not agree to anything unless Obama reverses his stand and restores the $16 trillion debt limit. Since he would never do that because it requires real spending cuts, let him burn in Hell the next three years over Obamacare.


17 posted on 11/13/2013 10:46:46 AM PST by kaehurowing
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*sigh*

when all the dust clears the Republicans will get the blame for people losing their current plans.


22 posted on 11/13/2013 10:54:38 AM PST by TexasFreeper2009 (Obama lied .. the economy died.)
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The GOP should just tell the Dems to fix the mess they created and step away.

In reality there is no "fix," mandated or not. The policies have already been cancelled, the damage already done. The insurers have already re-written their policies to comply with Obamacare. It's too late to do anything else.

23 posted on 11/13/2013 10:55:20 AM PST by colorado tanker
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BINGO!

The Dems are trying to ASSOCIATE REPUBLICANS WITH OBAMACARE by luring them into 'fixing' it, which is de facto SUPPORTING IT.

Heads up, Republicans! Leave it be. Don't touch it!

24 posted on 11/13/2013 10:55:30 AM PST by Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America (If Americans were as concerned for their country as Egyptians are, Obama would be ousted!)
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25 posted on 11/13/2013 10:55:31 AM PST by swamprebel (a Constitution once changed from Freedom, can never be restored.)
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26 posted on 11/13/2013 10:58:12 AM PST by JPG (Yes We Can morphs into Make It Hurt.)
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Personally, I thing the trap is that any plan to pass "if you like it you can keep it" is now doomed to failure and will only provide Obama with cover. Millions have already lost their coverage. The insurance companies have killed off entire plan structures. Do they think they can force them to go back and recreate plans they've eliminated? Send out thousands and thousands of "nevermind" letters?

If a bill likes this passes, and the insurance companies are unable to reoffer cancelled plans, it will be they who are blamed for the losses. Obama will be able to weather the storm of his blatant lies as MSM coverage will shift. It will get the dems off the hook.

At the very worst, it will allow republicans to join in with a very active role in this absolute debacle. Please just let the entire darn thing collapse.
27 posted on 11/13/2013 10:58:25 AM PST by mmichaels1970
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But there is a plan than does.

Wrong, Eric Eric. The government can't force the insurance companies to restore the plans they've already cancelled.

28 posted on 11/13/2013 10:58:38 AM PST by Cyber Liberty (We're At That Awkward Stage: It's too late to vote them out, too early to shoot the bastards.)
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Insist on repeal, or at least defunding. Making the people live with Obamacare is immoral.

However, if they delay the mandate a year and put the to-be-cancelled plans back in place, what that does is to push the cancellations in the individual market back a year, to join the cancellations in the small and big business markets to the fall of 2014 — right in the homestretch of the election campaign.


32 posted on 11/13/2013 11:12:08 AM PST by TBP (Obama lies, Granny dies.)
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