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In Israel, Hollande says France won’t waver on Iran
Times of Israel ^ | November 17, 2013, 4:54 pm | Lazar Berman, Raphael Ahren, Adiv Sterman

Posted on 11/17/2013 7:39:49 AM PST by Dave346

French president receives hero’s welcome for taking tough stance on Tehran’s nuclear program; Netanyahu: Paris is a ‘true friend’

France will uphold economic sanctions on Iran as long as the Islamic Republic does not prove it has taken serious steps toward curbing its nuclear program, French President Francois Hollande said Sunday at the opening of a state visit to Israel.

“France will not make concessions on nuclear proliferation,” Hollande pledged during a ceremony at Ben Gurion International Airport, upon his arrival. “France will maintain all its measures and sanctions until we are certain that Iran has renounced nuclear weapons.”

The French president arrived Sunday for a high-profile visit to Israel and the Palestinian territories in the midst of ongoing deliberations over Iran’s nuclear program.

Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu welcomed Hollande, and praised the French president’s dedication to the Jewish state. ”Israel sees in France a true friend,” he said at the ceremony. The prime minister went on to warn of the dangers of a nuclear-armed Iran, saying it “wouldn’t just endanger Israel and the countries in the Middle East but it would also endanger France, Europe and the entire world.”

“You, Mr. President, display an aggressive stance against Syria and also against Iran’s unceasing efforts to arm itself with a nuclear weapon,” Netanyahu continued, addressing Hollande in an allusion to reports that France had scuttled a deal with Iran in nuclear talks earlier this month in Geneva.

Later Sunday, Hollande was set to meet with Netanyahu to discuss a new round of nuclear talks with Iran slated for Wednesday in Geneva. He is also expected to deliver a speech in the Knesset later this week.

France apparently blocked what its foreign minister, Laurent Fabius, called “a sucker’s deal,”

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Israel; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: bomb; france; iran; israel; nuclear; obama; terror; war
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To: Dave346

Whats the next debacle for John Effin Kerry? He’s about to
be peter principled out. I guess he has set a new record
for highest level obtained for incompetence ever. Though
Obama still is king, Kerry is giving him a good run for it.


21 posted on 11/17/2013 2:22:28 PM PST by Slambat
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To: Dave346

It’s very embarrassing that the French President has more balls than the American President. His own approval rating is worse than Obama’s.


22 posted on 11/17/2013 2:27:16 PM PST by ToastedHead
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To: jneesy

The “whatever reason” is that France would be in the mushroom-cloud-fallout zone of most anything nuclear that went off in Asia Minor or around the Med. rim. That’s enough to keep the Frogz focused but I always wonder why we don’t hear anything from them with respect to NKorea?


23 posted on 11/17/2013 2:28:30 PM PST by cherokee1 (skip the names---just kick the buttz)
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To: Dave346

“Toute nation a le gouvernement qu’elle mérite” (Every nation gets the government it deserves. Joseph de Maistre).


24 posted on 11/17/2013 4:03:43 PM PST by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of corruption smelled around the planet.)
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To: stanne

Many of us ridiculed the French for avoiding participation in Iraq, but then the French sent soldiers to Afghanistan. Americans who show a more generalized and lasting hatred against the French tend to be those who identify more as Italians, Germans, Irish and English folks (from families of more recent immigrants from Europe—mostly fans of Rome). I lived in an American community of people like that for a few years. Interesting.


25 posted on 11/17/2013 4:20:10 PM PST by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of corruption smelled around the planet.)
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To: dennisw; Cachelot; Nix 2; veronica; Catspaw; knighthawk; Alouette; Optimist; weikel; Lent; GregB; ..
Middle East and terrorism, occasional political and Jewish issues Ping List. High Volume

If you’d like to be on or off, please FR mail me.

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26 posted on 11/17/2013 4:53:11 PM PST by SJackson (if you want to test a manÂ’s character, give him power A Lincoln)
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To: stanne
"Americans tend to hate the French. It always seems to be a result of bigotry or ignorance. I don’t know, what is it?"

Charles André Joseph Marie de Gaulle an others since with his attitude.

27 posted on 11/17/2013 6:36:56 PM PST by Paladin2
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To: stanne; All
I just don’t get why Americans hate the French.

I haven't seen any polls on it lately, so I don't know the percentage of Americans who actually do hate the French. I'd guess that that percentage is smaller than you think. A large majority of Americans have never been to France and don't really know any French people. So they would probably have no opinion on that question.

The most common things that seem to tick off Americans about the French are (1) arrogance toward American tourists by some Frenchmen; (2) a feeling that France hasn't sufficiently repaid the US for saving her in both WWI and WWII - e.g., doesn't necessarily align herself with US geopolitical interests; and (3) in recent decades, France has admitted too many Muslim immigrants and tends to appease her domestic Muslim masses both in terms of her domestic law enforcement policies and her foreign policy toward the Islamic world.

28 posted on 11/17/2013 6:45:26 PM PST by justiceseeker93
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To: stanne
The French people's bad reputations for rudeness and arrogance is due almost entirely to the fact that most US tourists only see Paris and Parisians. Folks in the French countryside are some of the friendliest people you'll ever meet. You see more or less the same thing in Spain (Madrid vs. smaller cities/towns) and Italy.

Incidentally, France also did the right thing by putting down an Al Quaeda-backed uprising in Mali.

29 posted on 11/17/2013 6:47:46 PM PST by ek_hornbeck
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To: familyop

The French were right with us in desert storm. All the way

To your second point, I grew up in an Irish, German, Italian, Jewish area , mixed with al different religions. I never encountered anti French, nor anti catholic, for that matter, sentiment until I got into the military, where, there is also the strongest catholic community, ironically, but understandably

And for years in Germany we went in and out of France heard so much ‘frogs this and froggies bla bla bla ‘ I never got it

Language? The French don’t care what people think they join fights on their merit?


30 posted on 11/17/2013 6:56:15 PM PST by stanne
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To: justiceseeker93

I don’t know about polls, but I’ve spent enough time with Americans in Europe to know that I have to prepare for incoming when it is mentioned. I can set my timer for an anti French, some kind of frog slur nothing forum

To your points, why Americans think they can just go into a country not attempting to blend in, just viewing it like a zoo, and then dictate the natives’ reaction is a question that can only be answered one way

We are mad that they didnt pay us? Really? When is Iraq and Afghanistan going to pay? Why don’t we have rights to Iraqi oil? Do we hate them?

And we don’t like them for not respecting their borders? Go to San Antonio any given Sunday evening any shopping center. The ‘poor’ immigrants are reaping and there is not only no one speaking English there is no one with a modicum of respect for Americans nor America. The shopkeepers are happy. They couldn’t care any less about what they’re ushering in nor what it means to their country nor tge country of their grandchildren

It is hypocritical so I think people just hate the French because they find it enjoyable it takes their minds off how we are falling short


31 posted on 11/17/2013 7:07:29 PM PST by stanne
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To: Paladin2

I can’t understand caring about their attitude. What do we care? What are we, their parents?

They’re snobby, so what how does that affect us? They have their country we have ours


32 posted on 11/17/2013 7:18:35 PM PST by stanne
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To: Bluestocking; ml/nj; ExTexasRedhead; Jewbacca; MestaMachine; nickcarraway; Kaslin; Eleutheria5; ...
If Americans ever want their president to receive a hero’s welcome again in Israel they’ll have to vote Republican.

You are correct to say that there is a significantly greater reservoir of good will toward Israel within the Republican Party than the 'Rat Party (especially the Obamaton-dominated 'Rat Party), and so electing a GOP president is more likely to produce better American relations with Israel.

But, more generally speaking, in order to elect a Republican president again, election fraud and cheating must be diminished and GOP politicians must be alerted to this problem and should not be afraid to change election laws and procedures in order to improve the integrity of the voting system.

33 posted on 11/17/2013 7:27:01 PM PST by justiceseeker93
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To: Dave346

Saudi Arabia sells oil and gas to anyone. They are impartial.
While Iran and Russia have geopolitical ambitions to put a dual choke hold on European energy supplies (and jack up prices) when you project out five years. Being the most advanced and industrialized European nation, Germany should have taken action. They didn’t so France did.

Also Iran can threaten France with missiles. Soon they will have nuclear weapons to put on these missiles. Then they will be able to make nuclear threats against France/Europe and Saudi Arabia


34 posted on 11/17/2013 7:46:48 PM PST by dennisw (The first principle is to find out who you are then you can achieve anything -- Buddhist monk)
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To: Mouton

It’s like the difference between NY City and rural NY.


35 posted on 11/17/2013 8:43:44 PM PST by VerySadAmerican (".....Barrack, and the horse Mohammed rode in on.")
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To: ek_hornbeck

Well said.

Here in the UK I would hate to be judged by London.


36 posted on 11/18/2013 12:33:34 AM PST by agere_contra (I once saw a movie where only the police and military had guns. It was called 'Schindler's List'.)
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To: stanne

I spent 10 of my 20 years in the Army stationed in Germany. I know a little about how Germans feel about us. My vote would say 90% of them hated us. They were glad we were keeping the Soviets out, but would rather we had done it from the eastern side of the wall, not the western side. They wanted us out. WE were a reminder of their stupidity of Hitler, and losing the war to what they felt were inferior peoples.


37 posted on 11/18/2013 5:30:31 AM PST by RetiredArmy (I am proud to be a Christian and follower of my Lord Jesus Christ. Time is short for U to know Him!)
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To: RetiredArmy

Sure.

And they’re entitled to their feelings, and opinions. They were polite about it. There were some shopkeepers in town that would not speak English, regardless of how everyone here would say you don’t need to know German, everyone speaks English. Near base, these locals would not.

And I wish people here in Texas would do the same in regard to our native language-English, that is.

I learned German, and I mean I studied it and spoke it. They were very nice and polite to me, but I didn’t change anyone’s mind about Americans. I was simply a good ambassador, whatever that was worth.

Americans want everyone to like them or to treat them that way. But how would we like it if the Germans moved in on us, under those circumstances?

I wish we’d be a lot more that way toward the foreigners who are invading under illegal circumstances.

The French? Why should they be required to like us?

I guess people don’t like the French because they don’t feel the need to approve of us or like us. When I visit there, I have that attitude and I speak French, Not very well, but...so they’re polite to me. and I like France, but I’m told that I’m not supposed to do so.

Interesting, the Germans do have feelings, as you say , of some kind of embarrassment. Some old people, when I was there reminisced fondly about Hitler. Weird.

The young people Hated Bush, as if they have the right to an opinion about our leader. Did they wish to catch us being stupid about a leader and believe all the anti Bush Propaganda? If that’s the case, they are missing the mark, leftists that they tend to be. Hitler’s tactics were not right wing, they were leftist. Obama is the comparison.


38 posted on 11/18/2013 6:22:31 AM PST by stanne
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To: stanne

Yes, I encountered nice Germans. Had German friends around us where we lived off base. But, I also encountered hateful Germans. I had a friend who was downtown Munich with his wife shopping. These two German women who worked in the store were standing off to the side, talking garbage about the #&#^@) #@*(W8RRt&^ Americans. They used every curse word that Germans have talking about my two friends. But, both just smiled at the Germans, pretended to not understand, BECAUSE MY FRIEND’S WIFE WAS GERMAN!!!! and he also spoke full German as she had taught him German, and just as he was ready to check out, he switched to full German, asked for the manager, and lowered the boom on both women with the boss standing there. He threatened to go to the Army and German authorities and file discrimination charges against the store and the store manager lost his mind, yelling at the two employees, promising to punish them if they would accept his apology. They tossed the stuff they were going to buy on the counter and walked out!! So, yes, there are good and bad in any society.


39 posted on 11/18/2013 7:32:55 AM PST by RetiredArmy (I am proud to be a Christian and follower of my Lord Jesus Christ. Time is short for U to know Him!)
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To: agere_contra
Here in the UK I would hate to be judged by London.

Or imagine having the United States judged solely by NYC, especially Manhattan.

40 posted on 11/18/2013 8:14:34 AM PST by ek_hornbeck
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