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Seven States Sue EPA To Crack Down on Residential Wood Burning
CNSNews ^ | 11/15/2013 | Barbara Hollingsworth

Posted on 11/17/2013 9:09:47 AM PST by rktman

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To: rktman

I remember in the 1970s hippies and other whackos sported “Split Wood Not Atoms” bumper stickers on their VW mini buses. Now burning wood is an environmental crime.


61 posted on 11/17/2013 12:46:51 PM PST by The Great RJ
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To: rktman

BUMP


62 posted on 11/17/2013 5:35:09 PM PST by Extremely Extreme Extremist (Governor Sarah Heath Palin for President of the United States in 2016)
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To: cripplecreek
And those states don't just regulate those things themselves because...?

Oregon has had those green-yellow-red wood burning advisories in the upland valleys for years. The regulations have no teeth because the people won't sit down for it in a hundred years. Who owns Oregon anyway, that the governing class would end run around them, led by an elected attorney general?

It is a wrong on many levels and folks need to start looking in the mirror for the responsible parties.

63 posted on 11/17/2013 5:51:21 PM PST by Clinging Bitterly (R.I P. my old FRiend and neighbor Blackie Owens. Be ever vigilant!)
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To: Clinging Bitterly

Its a lot easier to regulate a company like a coal burning power plant than it is to regulate individuals.

What are they going to do, set up a federal chain saw registry?


64 posted on 11/17/2013 6:07:54 PM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: cripplecreek
All in due time I am sure. I think the pilot project is already underway in Kalifornistan.

Oregon will adopt it by executive action, because it is such a good idea.

65 posted on 11/17/2013 6:29:10 PM PST by Clinging Bitterly (R.I P. my old FRiend and neighbor Blackie Owens. Be ever vigilant!)
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To: rktman

Liberals demand the end of burning wood yet they demand to burn more pot.


66 posted on 11/17/2013 6:35:13 PM PST by CodeToad (When ignorance rules a person's decision they are resorting to superstition.)
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To: CurlyDave

Is it such a big problem that someone is likely to do that on a large scale? Doesn’t make sense to me to place a boiler outside and waste the excess heat. Likewise to make a lot of smoke for lack of an appropriately scaled system. Finally, when it comes to the inevitable smoky startup, tall chimneys make good neighbors. In Eugene the neighbor across my back property line would often feed burnable trash into an extra stove he had in a back room. The only reason it was a problem was because his chimney was below his roofline and the natural air currents forced the smoke down instead of up and away. Still, a wood fire which is hot as it should be will produce almost no visible smoke in any case. What you see in wood fire smoke is wood that didn’t burn (i.e. wasted energy).


67 posted on 11/17/2013 7:02:14 PM PST by Clinging Bitterly (R.I P. my old FRiend and neighbor Blackie Owens. Be ever vigilant!)
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To: NormsRevenge
wood stove runs a generator, produces gasoline, runs a fridge ..

This guy get fuels from the wood he burns!

68 posted on 11/17/2013 7:05:31 PM PST by B4Ranch (Name the illness that you have and Google it with "hydrogen peroxide". Do it and be surprised.)
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To: hadaclueonce

Those ties are full of creosote. Talk about pollution!


69 posted on 11/17/2013 7:17:43 PM PST by reformedliberal
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To: DoughtyOne

Here, we are about 1/4 mile to a mile apart. Everyone burns wood. Amazingly, the ugly black snow is found in town along the roads. Out here, the snow around our homes is white and remains that way.


70 posted on 11/17/2013 7:24:44 PM PST by reformedliberal
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To: logic101.net
....a group sues a govt agency just to give the agency cover to do what it wants to do. Now it can say we had to do this to end the law suit.

Another side to this tactic is the Consent Decree. Some government agency will get sued, and said agency (run by people who agree with the goals of the plaintiff but are otherwise restricted by law) will settle the lawsuit by agreeing to the Consent Decree. The terms of the decree will then allow the agency to engage in a whole host of activities that were never contemplated or approved through legislation, which really was the point from the beginning. It's an end run around the legislative process, and yet another form of judicial tyranny.
71 posted on 11/17/2013 7:37:03 PM PST by rottndog ('Live Free Or Die' Ain't just words on a bumber sticker...or a tagline.)
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To: reformedliberal

The dirt on the streets, oil residue, rubber particulate matter, and mud from the snow melting causes the roadways to be filthy.

We burned wood and the smoke went up, dissipated and probably returned to the ground over a miles long and wide swath.

It smells wonderful. When I go outside here in Glendale, CA, bordering Los Angeles, I can instantly tell when someone is burning wood. Man what a great smell...

BTW, good for you.


72 posted on 11/17/2013 8:11:40 PM PST by DoughtyOne (Obama, the Democrat Party, the Left in the U. S., have essentially become the 4th Reich.)
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To: DoughtyOne

Some of it smells even better when you open the stove door to add more.

Not much snow out there in Glendale, is there? ;~)


73 posted on 11/17/2013 8:41:18 PM PST by reformedliberal
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To: reformedliberal

No snow. I’d love to have some a few times per year.


74 posted on 11/17/2013 8:47:57 PM PST by DoughtyOne (Obama, the Democrat Party, the Left in the U. S., have essentially become the 4th Reich.)
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To: rktman
I can't help to think this is a scam, a lawsuit instigated by environmentalists, maybe even from within EPA itself.
A lawsuit EPA is all to happy to lose.
It's really a win for them, then they'll have a court order to make new regulations, bypassing proper regulation, which is exactly what they wanted.

75 posted on 11/18/2013 5:55:43 AM PST by BitWielder1 (Corporate Profits are better than Government Waste)
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To: Repeal The 17th

Of course if does.

Anything you want solved is best solved by federal bureacrats via gubmint leviathon.

EPA SWAT teams need practice,too.

Local ordinances and state laws are so, like, 1940’s ,man.


76 posted on 06/04/2014 3:54:08 PM PDT by TurboZamboni (Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable.-JFK)
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To: TurboZamboni

Oh, I’m sorry, dude, but that was so, like, 6 months ago,
that my short attention span has completely forgotten
whatever the hell this may or may not have been about...
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If it was that problems are best solved bottom-up
instead of top-down, then we are in agreement.


77 posted on 06/04/2014 4:01:38 PM PDT by Repeal The 17th (We have met the enemy and he is us.)
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