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Breaking: DEMOCRATS to REIMBURSE Insurance Companies Up to 80% on O-Care Losses (Video)
The Gateway Pundit ^ | 11-18-2013 | Jim Hoft

Posted on 11/18/2013 3:26:41 PM PST by servo1969

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To: servo1969

The Democrats are not reimbursing them—they are giving them money collected from the taxpayers.


51 posted on 11/18/2013 4:18:46 PM PST by Verginius Rufus
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To: lonevoice

Words just fail me.


52 posted on 11/18/2013 4:20:26 PM PST by Pride in the USA
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To: Tzimisce
What the Hell happened to this country?

publik skoolz did.

And the success that allowed enough people to be fat, happy, and lazy - and for the other half to be complacent in their belief that freedom and common sense would always exist. I mean we're the freest and richest country in the world, right?

Indoctrination and public complacency happened to this country; systemic cancers from within.

53 posted on 11/18/2013 4:22:17 PM PST by Repeat Offender (What good are conservative principles if we don't stand by them?)
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To: Verginius Rufus
The Democrats are not reimbursing them—they are giving them money collected stolen from the taxpayers.
The tax payers get absolutely NOTHING in return.

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54 posted on 11/18/2013 4:22:37 PM PST by concerned about politics ("Get thee behind me, Liberal")
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To: Repeat Offender

skoolz certainly presented an unrealistic world.


55 posted on 11/18/2013 4:26:11 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (The Lion of Judah will roar again if you give him a big hug and a cheer and mean it. See my page.)
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To: servo1969

56 posted on 11/18/2013 4:26:22 PM PST by JPG (Yes We Can morphs into Make It Hurt.)
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To: tbpiper; Viennacon; RinaseaofDs
How the hell do they pay for this? Not with our money! Zero doesn't get to write checks the taxpayer must cash!

Not if the House pubbies and Ted Cruz truly can defund the monstrosity February 1, 2014! (That should be a lot easier by then.)

There will copious blood on Dem hands by 2/2014. If we play the cards the Dims have dealt right, they can be a 15% party for the next three generations!

HF

57 posted on 11/18/2013 4:28:30 PM PST by holden (Alter or abolish it yet?)
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To: servo1969

I still think that we should come up
with a list of pro-Democrat Insurance Companies,
and try to send sick people there.


58 posted on 11/18/2013 4:30:44 PM PST by RockyTx
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To: servo1969

its the way of a democrat politician; they create a problem then devise a fix where they have personal gain as well and the taxpayer gets the bill. And due to MSM, the deems always get the kudos. This government is nothing but a SCAM machine to steel the peoples money!! I was going to say wealth but the wealthy seem to always get richer when democrats control DC.


59 posted on 11/18/2013 4:32:42 PM PST by drypowder
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To: PghBaldy
" Well, Nancy Pelosi was right: they did have to pass it for us to see what was in it. "

Pass as in a bowel movement.
60 posted on 11/18/2013 4:41:07 PM PST by American Constitutionalist
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To: servo1969
and America takes another one in the........

61 posted on 11/18/2013 4:42:06 PM PST by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -vvv- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: servo1969

If you like your promised reimbursements, you can keep them. Period. Nothing will take them away.

Really - who is believing that any losses will actually be reimbursed? Not that it’s right to do it anyway - it’s not. But why would any ins co just go ahead and take a loss... thinking that 0dumbo would really do what he says if they just save his skin?


62 posted on 11/18/2013 4:46:11 PM PST by Principled
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To: servo1969

I hope the racial guilt that put this clown in the Whitehouse is now a thing of the past.

Just proving your not a bigot does not require a vote to clear your conscious.

If Obama had been any other background, he would never have been re elected. Thank you MSM, Okra and the So called Rev Al.


63 posted on 11/18/2013 4:46:16 PM PST by hadaclueonce (I was wrong when I thought Ken Lay was the AntiChrist. Now I know it is 0)
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To: Venturer

“Does anyone else wonder how many dollars the insurance slipped into Democrats pockets to get this little gem inserted?”

I think they probably wrote the ACA.


64 posted on 11/18/2013 4:58:35 PM PST by dljordan (WhoVoltaire: "To find out who rules over you, simply find out who you are not allowed to criticize.")
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To: servo1969

I thought the reimbursement rate was even higher.

Oh, well, it’s just CRA all over again. The banks were told to do stupid things but they didn’t want to lose money, so the gummint pledged to cover most of their losses.

That worked out well, didn’t it?

Now the insurance companies are told to do stupid things but they don’t want to lose money, so the gummint is pledging to cover most of their losses.

This should work out really well, too, won’t it??


65 posted on 11/18/2013 5:05:37 PM PST by Right Wing Assault (What happened to my tagline??)
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To: servo1969

that nobody read, the only thing that sticks in my throat everytime and the reason we are where we are today.


66 posted on 11/18/2013 5:17:46 PM PST by ronnie raygun
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To: jonrick46
the bureaucracy costs which already will cost us $151.8 billion annually

We were promised, even as late as 2/2013, that ZerosCare (as well as other Zero programs) "won’t add ‘a single dime’ to deficit!"

Rage over Insurance company bailouts mortgaging our children's and grandchildren's futures should be ripe to come a boil by 2/2014.

HF

67 posted on 11/18/2013 5:20:46 PM PST by holden (Alter or abolish it yet?)
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To: clintonh8r

Simple. Don’t pay taxes. If the government doesn’t have any money how are they going to reimburse insurance companies?


68 posted on 11/18/2013 5:24:13 PM PST by VerySadAmerican (".....Barrack, and the horse Mohammed rode in on.")
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To: Liz
On page 107 of the healthcare bill Obama facilitates Muslim triumphalism-

Except it doesn't. Do some fact checking.

69 posted on 11/18/2013 5:30:26 PM PST by steve86 (Some things aren't really true but you wouldn't be half surprised if they were.)
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To: Viennacon

“The public will be on our side if the Dems are pushing an insurance bailout in response to their own failures.”

Think again. The public voted for these criminals. Public dumb.


70 posted on 11/18/2013 5:31:42 PM PST by SisterK (its a spiritual war)
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To: servo1969

the progressives public bullying of the corporate world is their way of getting them on board with buying protection from them in the regulations, with campaign contributions

the finance industry was Obama’s biggest supporters in both elections


71 posted on 11/18/2013 5:37:34 PM PST by Wuli
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To: Liz

Liz, thanks for the reminder -— this is more stealth jihad.


72 posted on 11/18/2013 5:40:58 PM PST by SisterK (its a spiritual war)
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To: servo1969

as long as my premiums go down $2500 a year.....

/sarc


73 posted on 11/18/2013 5:54:07 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: Secret Agent Man

Congress can change this. Keep repaeting: NO MORe BAILOUTS.


74 posted on 11/18/2013 5:56:36 PM PST by RossA
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To: servo1969; All

With what???

Ohhh, wait...I forgot, those 3 trillion dollars in taxes coming January 1st...

Yeah, that lie about taxes onlyh going up for those “earning” (yeah, I know, funny) more than $250,000 a year...

Wonder what those folks who make only $249,999 are thinking???

(Whew!!! They missed us!!!)

Uhhhhhh, guess again Del Ray!!!

The chickens are coming home to roost...And we told ya so...


75 posted on 11/18/2013 6:05:43 PM PST by stevie_d_64 (It's not the color of one's skin that offends people...it's how thin it is.)
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To: servo1969; All

So this is what that secret meeting with the big Insurance company executives was about last week in the White House...

It really is getting easier and easier to connect the dots...


76 posted on 11/18/2013 6:06:57 PM PST by stevie_d_64 (It's not the color of one's skin that offends people...it's how thin it is.)
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To: concerned about politics

How did you come up with the 2015 date?


77 posted on 11/18/2013 6:20:54 PM PST by Nuc 1.1 (Nuc 1 Liberals aren't Patriots. Remember 1789!)
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To: Pride in the USA; Stillwaters

Billions and billions of dollars into the back pockets and Swiss bank accounts of insurance company CEOs and executives in exchange for them not having fought this Obortion.


78 posted on 11/18/2013 7:00:32 PM PST by lonevoice (Today I broke my personal record for most consecutive days lived)
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To: servo1969

Not without a budget authorization from the House.


79 posted on 11/18/2013 7:11:53 PM PST by LibLieSlayer (FROM MY COLD, DEAD HANDS! BETTER DEAD THAN RED!)
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To: LibLieSlayer

Clown Prince nobama don’t need no steeenkin’ laws. Congress should impeach and convict the commie.


80 posted on 11/18/2013 7:17:35 PM PST by ogen hal (First amendment or reeducation camp)
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To: Tzimisce

What the Hell happened to this country?


The progressives won. Removed God, took over the schools, implemented socialism, own the media and Hollywood, took over the courts, and when that is not enough they cheat.

Welcome to the new Amerika comrade.


81 posted on 11/18/2013 7:18:25 PM PST by volunbeer (We must embrace austerity or austerity will embrace us)
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To: VerySadAmerican

Simple. Don’t pay taxes. If the government doesn’t have any money how are they going to reimburse insurance companies?


They will find some way to take what you own as taxation and they will further tax you by devaluing your currency (printing).


82 posted on 11/18/2013 7:20:50 PM PST by volunbeer (We must embrace austerity or austerity will embrace us)
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To: volunbeer

Mark Levin was right and Karl Rove was wrong. Obamacare won’t collapse under its own weight. It has no actuarial value. It’s a government program. The progressives will throw an infinite amount of money at it to get it to “work.”


83 posted on 11/18/2013 7:29:03 PM PST by St_Thomas_Aquinas ( Isaiah 22:22, Matthew 16:19, Revelation 3:7)
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To: St_Thomas_Aquinas

I would go much further although Levin is right - I think we are all missing the point. I wrote this on another thread that died this morning.

Even those who did not read the bill knew what they were voting for - socialism. It was that simple then and it’s that simple now. To boil it all down to technical aspects misses the point of the bill.

It was never about efficient delivery of services - it has always been about government control. Control of 1/6th of our economy and voter control. It is proven that the majority of government workers (likely to include health care providers when it shifts to single payer) vote democrat - win for the rats. On top of that, a large percentage of elderly vote (those needing the most health care) for their own benefits - another win for the rats.

The GOP does not get it. Many of us believe the electorate would change drastically if we pass amnesty because we believe “new Americans” (aka - the poor) will vote for benefits for themselves.

Why do so many miss the same likelihood for Obamacare? It is a dreadful piece of socialist legislation that will turn healthcare into a trip to the DMV - we will be held hostage by rat voting junior bureaucrats and scared voters that vote to maintain whatever health care the government grants them. It is a brilliant scheme to maintain power.


84 posted on 11/18/2013 7:33:17 PM PST by volunbeer (We must embrace austerity or austerity will embrace us)
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To: volunbeer

-— Why do so many miss the same likelihood for Obamacare? -—

The mystery is why working people support Obamacare. The EBT crowd is understandable.


85 posted on 11/18/2013 7:38:27 PM PST by St_Thomas_Aquinas ( Isaiah 22:22, Matthew 16:19, Revelation 3:7)
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To: Viennacon

Billions and billions after more billions for a crap system!


86 posted on 11/18/2013 7:54:38 PM PST by opres
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To: servo1969

bttt


87 posted on 11/18/2013 8:49:39 PM PST by harpu ( "...it's better to be hated for who you are than loved for someone you're not!")
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To: ogen hal

They indeed should... but they will do nothing. We must force change through increased unemployment of rats and rinoid parasites in DC. It is the only way short of bloodshed.


88 posted on 11/19/2013 4:13:19 AM PST by LibLieSlayer (FROM MY COLD, DEAD HANDS! BETTER DEAD THAN RED!)
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To: SisterK
Obama's most trusted advisors.

Arif Alikhan, assistant secretary of Homeland Security for policy development;

Mohammed Elibiary, a member of the Homeland Security Advisory Council (recently promoted);

Rashad Hussain, the U.S. special envoy to the Organization of the Islamic Conference;

Salam al-Marayati, co-founder of the Muslim Public Affairs Council (MPAC);

Imam Mohamed Magid, president of the Islamic Society of North America (ISNA);

Eboo Patel, a member of President Obama's Advisory Council on Faith-Based Neighborhood Partnerships.

89 posted on 11/19/2013 4:55:27 AM PST by Liz
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To: Jacquerie

Pre-xactly!!


90 posted on 11/19/2013 5:04:39 AM PST by vortec94
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To: Tzimisce

We gave the biggest job in the country to a person who wasn’t qualified or legally able to be President but got elected in a giant fraud of Affirmative Action Hiring.

A clash of the Peter Principle & Affirmative Action created this mess.


91 posted on 11/19/2013 5:18:25 AM PST by ridesthemiles
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To: eclecticEel

And you thought the housing bubble was a disaster!”””

When the reality of the cost of Obamacare hits middle class Americans who already have lost 25% of their working hours, a larger foreclosure problem will be here.

Many are struggling to pay their mortgages now, and giving them an obnoxious bill for Obamacare & demanding that you participate under threat of going to jail is going to put Americans into the position of paying for Obamacare or their mortgages.

The next round of foreclosures could completely kill the nation’s economy. Banks will fail. Real estate companies will close. Construction is already on the ropes.

The current stockholders of insurance companies will be losing that investment money, and how about all the money the insurance companies put thru the banks nationwide each & every day of the year? The collapse of those stocks will hurt Wall Street, and it will spread thru other support companies.

How about hospital stock holders? How about the companies which support the health industry, such as the drug companies, the joint replacement companies, even the companies who made daily supplies used in a clinic or hospital???

Obama wanted to control over 18% of the USA economy. Instead, I believe he is going to DESTROY that 18% and much more.

Those who sung his praises & now try to tell us we only dislike him because he is black are the worst kinds of racists.

Thanks, Oprah. Maybe you will have to hold some more auctions of your personal items. How long before YOU are bankrupt??


92 posted on 11/19/2013 5:30:17 AM PST by ridesthemiles
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To: Venturer

“Pelosi has been known to sell out for almost anything.”

Sounds like a whore with an addiction!


93 posted on 11/19/2013 6:01:59 AM PST by tired&retired
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To: DJ MacWoW

“Truth can hurt but isn’t necessarily “mean”, unless you’re a perpetually offended liberal. ;-)”

The reality of truth hurts twice as hard when you have been in emotional denial all along and finally must face the real truth! You are correct.

Emotional decision makers make a decision without looking at the facts and then are blind to all facts that do not support the decision they have made. Thus it really hurts when the facts they have denied have become reality. Problem is, by then(point of facing reality of the delusion) the children and our future have been destroyed...


94 posted on 11/19/2013 6:10:00 AM PST by tired&retired
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To: concerned about politics

I like the fable with the “grasshopper” being the “dung beetle!” Better resemblance..

THE ANT AND THE DUNG BEETLE

During the summer, the ant went around the fields collecting grains of wheat and barley so that he could store up some food for the winter.

A dung beetle watched the ant and decided that he must be a wretched creature since he worked all the time, never taking a moment’s rest, unlike the other animals.

The ant didn’t pay attention to the dung beetle and simply went about his business. When winter came and the dung was washed away by the rain, the beetle grew hungry.

He went to the ant and begged him to share a little bit of his food.

The ant replied, ‘O beetle, if you had done some work yourself instead of making fun of me while I was working so hard, then you would not need to be asking me for food.’

The fable teaches us that we should not neglect important things that require our attention, and instead we should attend in good time to our future well-being.


95 posted on 11/19/2013 6:17:43 AM PST by tired&retired
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To: Liz

Time to find an old religious group that is against public health insurance and have enough people join to create our own exemption!

Is anybody exempted from the insurance mandate by reason of religious affiliation?

Yes. A paragraph on page 107 of the legislation provides for individual religious exemptions. The language is non-specific with regard to particular faiths, however.

Read carefully:

(5) EXEMPTIONS FROM INDIVIDUAL RESPONSIBILITY REQUIREMENTS.—

In the case of an individual who is seeking an exemption certificate under section 1311(d)(4)(H) from any requirement or penalty imposed by section 5000A, the following information [is required]:

(A) In the case of an individual seeking exemption based on the individual’s status as a member of an exempt religious sect or division, as a member of a health care sharing ministry, as an Indian, or as an individual eligible for a hardship exemption, such information as the Secretary shall prescribe.

Similarly, page 128 of the legislation states:

“(A) RELIGIOUS CONSCIENCE EXEMPTION.—Such term [i.e., “applicable individual”] shall not include any individual for any month if such individual has in effect an exemption under section 1311(d)(4)(H) of the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act which certifies that such individual is a member of a recognized religious sect or division thereof described in section 1402(g)(1) and an adherent of established tenets or teachings of such sect or division as described in such section.

The above passage amends the Internal Revenue Code of 1986, of which Section 1402(g)(1) defines “a member of a recognized religious sect or division thereof” as follows:

(1) Exemption
Any individual may file an application (in such form and manner, and with such official, as may be prescribed by regulations under this chapter) for an exemption from the tax imposed by this chapter if he is a member of a recognized religious sect or division thereof and is an adherent of established tenets or teachings of such sect or division by reason of which he is conscientiously opposed to acceptance of the benefits of any private or public insurance which makes payments in the event of death, disability, old-age, or retirement or makes payments toward the cost of, or provides services for, medical care (including the benefits of any insurance system established by the Social Security Act). Such exemption may be granted only if the application contains or is accompanied by—
(A) such evidence of such individual’s membership in, and adherence to the tenets or teachings of, the sect or division thereof as the Secretary may require for purposes of determining such individual’s compliance with the preceding sentence, and

(B) his waiver of all benefits and other payments under titles II and XVIII of the Social Security Act on the basis of his wages and self-employment income as well as all such benefits and other payments to him on the basis of the wages and self-employment income of any other person,

and only if the Commissioner of Social Security finds that—

(C) such sect or division thereof has the established tenets or teachings referred to in the preceding sentence,

(D) it is the practice, and has been for a period of time which he deems to be substantial, for members of such sect or division thereof to make provision for their dependent members which in his judgment is reasonable in view of their general level of living, and

(E) such sect or division thereof has been in existence at all times since December 31, 1950.


96 posted on 11/19/2013 6:27:05 AM PST by tired&retired
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To: tired&retired

Someone in “authority” take the printing presses away from these anti-Freedom, anti-Free-America criminals (Clown Prince nobama included).


97 posted on 11/19/2013 6:31:18 AM PST by hal ogen (First Amendment or Reeducation Camp?)
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To: tired&retired

An adddiction fed by her ego an addiction for power.


98 posted on 11/19/2013 6:38:03 AM PST by Venturer (Keep Obama and you aint seen nothing yet.)
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To: tired&retired

Thanks.

This means you, Louis and friends.

LOL.


99 posted on 11/19/2013 6:39:45 AM PST by Liz
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To: tired&retired

Proverbs 6:6 refers to the worker ant......

Proverbs 6
New International Version (NIV)

Warnings Against Folly

6 My son, if you have put up security for your neighbor,
if you have shaken hands in pledge for a stranger,
2 you have been trapped by what you said,
ensnared by the words of your mouth.
3 So do this, my son, to free yourself,
since you have fallen into your neighbor’s hands:
Go—to the point of exhaustion—[a]
and give your neighbor no rest!
4 Allow no sleep to your eyes,
no slumber to your eyelids.
5 Free yourself, like a gazelle from the hand of the hunter,
like a bird from the snare of the fowler.

6 Go to the ant, you sluggard;
consider its ways and be wise!
7 It has no commander,
no overseer or ruler,
8 yet it stores its provisions in summer
and gathers its food at harvest.
9 How long will you lie there, you sluggard?
When will you get up from your sleep?
10 A little sleep, a little slumber,
a little folding of the hands to rest—
11 and poverty will come on you like a thief
and scarcity like an armed man.
12 A troublemaker and a villain,
who goes about with a corrupt mouth,
13 who winks maliciously with his eye,
signals with his feet
and motions with his fingers,
14 who plots evil with deceit in his heart—
he always stirs up conflict.
15 Therefore disaster will overtake him in an instant;
he will suddenly be destroyed—without remedy.
16 There are six things the Lord hates,
seven that are detestable to him:
17 haughty eyes,
a lying tongue,
hands that shed innocent blood,
18 a heart that devises wicked schemes,
feet that are quick to rush into evil,
19 a false witness who pours out lies
and a person who stirs up conflict in the community.


100 posted on 11/19/2013 7:02:11 AM PST by tired&retired
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