Posted on 11/19/2013 1:19:52 PM PST by Kaslin
(or even a sane smoker - but thats questionable if they exist, considering what theyre doing).
...based on your nastiness in your post, I take it you travel among the stars securely perched on a broomstick...
Sorry ... wrong costume. On Halloween I dressed up as one of the Duck Dynasty ...
Too bad there are two sides to that equation. Your math is unbalanced.
That's also what the Chemtrail people say!
Poisoned? Did you ride the Drama Llama here?
Oh lookie here - another nanny state loving cretin!
I hate to burst your simple minded bubble, but unless you own the property on which you are standing, our rights are exactly the same as anyone else's - except the owner. If you own it, you have the right to make the rules, if you don't own it, you only have the right to LEAVE.
State or no-state — no one has any self-proclaimed rights, when those faux-rights trample all over my rights.
They can poison themselves all they want, but they don’t get to poison me.
No one’s rights gets to trump and/or erase another person’s rights - as individuals. Someone may say they have a right to swing their arms - but when the swinging of their arms ends up on my nose - then they can’t claim “privilege” because it’s “their right”.
I would suggest that they develop the science behind that to bolster their case with the public and legislatively ... then ... :-)
But I can sense your feeling of kinship, maybe you can be their Marshall Applewhite!
I don’t care about contrails or comets — but someone blowing poison in my face is up close and personal.
But you are free to believe any idiot thing you want.
Remember, dilution is the solution!
If they are swinging their arms and you move into the space they are occupying intermittently, then you have violated their rights by taking up the space they needed to swing their arms.
Nice attempt to substitute “privelege” for “right”, BTW.
The concept that one’s rights trump others’ rights is inherently abridgement of their rights. When states and cities started with the smoking bans, they always couched it in terms of the rights of non-smokers, and never in terms of the property owners or smokers. The non-smokers’ rights were used to cancel the rights of even the people who owned the bar or restaurant to determine whether customers were allowed to smoke.
Now, you are here claiming an inviolable, portable smoke-free zone around yourself, no matter whether the smoker was in the space you decide to occupy first. The only way that logical equation balances is if they have NO rights - only you can have the rights you claim. They are only allowed the “privileges” you allow.
Which means you are considered in the exact same position from someone else’s perspective.
You cannot make a logical case that is balanced based on your assertion of having superior rights to anyone who asserts a right that “affects” you, regardless of circumstance.
Dilution would definitely be the solution for me - which is why I mentioned 100 yards in an earlier post.
Of course then some crazy comment was made after that - saying all that was needed was maybe ten inches.
Since it’s poison in my face, I’m going with a hundred yards.
Yes, I do claim a poison-free zone from smokers as a basic right. And, there are plenty of other people around who also claim that poison-free zone around them, from the poisonous fumes from smokers.
In the end - we all know how this is going to turn out (no matter which side you are on) - because pretty much all people with common sense know that they, personally, have a right to be poison-free, even if someone else chooses to poison themselves. They know - inherently - that the other person’s desire to poison themselves does not extend to any other people, against their will.
Just wait a few more years and you’ll see where this one will go. It won’t be in favor of those who poison themselves and wish to extend that to others against their will.
Since you obviously do not know anything other than the statist propaganda, there is really no sense in discussing this with you.
However, I will try to explain the point I was making in a manner more directed to your level of comprehension:
If it is my property my right to it trumps yours, if it is your property your right to it trumps mine - get it?
Since you have no problem with poison spewing combustion engines I propose you send an hour in a locked garage with a running automobile and I will spend the same hour in an identical locked garage with 100 smokers all smoking at one time. After the hour we will meet to discuss our experiences.........that is if you last that long.
Nanny State PING!
I own a multifamily residential facility and I'm thinking of putting a "no sexual activity of any sort" clause in the lease.
Does that work for you?
“I own a multifamily residential facility and I’m thinking of putting a “no sexual activity of any sort” clause in the lease.”
Depends. Exactly how much semen are you being forced to consume?
You are sadly disillusioned as to what constitutes a basic right.
Public education and the news media did this to you.
Don't take it out on the rest of us. It was a disservice to you, but you can outgrow it and turn it into something useful - maybe.
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