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Friction Over Wolf Reintroduction Spills Into Colorado ( and NM )
Colorado Observer ^ | November 21, 2013 | Valerie Richardson

Posted on 11/21/2013 11:48:46 AM PST by george76

Wildlife lovers clamoring to bring gray wolves to Colorado may want to pay attention to those wooden outhouse-style structures in rural Catron County, New Mexico. They’re called “kid cages,” and they’re built to protect children waiting at school bus stops–from wolves.

“The wolf issue is an example, especially with the kid cages, about how you’re putting the interest of wildlife over the interests of human beings,” said filmmaker David Spady. “Every American should be concerned about seeing kids in cages and wolves out wandering around freely.”

Spady’s remarks came during a Tuesday screening of his film, “Wolves in Government Clothing,” a documentary on the impact of the 1998 wolf reintroduction on those living in the rural West.

The film focuses on rural communities struggling to cope with the economic and safety issues that accompanied the wolves, including livestock depredations, reduced elk and moose herds, and fewer hunting opportunities, not to mention chilling close encounters with wolf packs.

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The Fish and Wildlife Service is expected to rule on the wolf proposals sometime after public hearings conclude Dec. 3.

(Excerpt) Read more at thecoloradoobserver.com ...


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1 posted on 11/21/2013 11:48:46 AM PST by george76
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To: george76

no more common sense. we need wolves why????


2 posted on 11/21/2013 11:50:30 AM PST by Sacajaweau
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To: Sacajaweau
no more common sense. we need wolves why????

Same reason we need to import Al Qaeda.

3 posted on 11/21/2013 11:53:11 AM PST by Steely Tom (If the Constitution can be a living document, I guess a corporation can be a person.)
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To: CedarDave; jazusamo; Flycatcher; girlangler; SierraWasp; GladesGuru; Diana in Wisconsin; ...

Wolves in Government Clothing.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZPZXevpiGBg&feature=youtu.be


4 posted on 11/21/2013 11:53:31 AM PST by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: Sacajaweau
no more common sense. we need wolves why????

Because.

5 posted on 11/21/2013 11:53:41 AM PST by okie01 (The Mainstream Media: Ignorance On Parade)
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To: george76

They’re just like big lovable dogs. I’m sure I’d be happy to let the grandkids go out and play amongst them. NOT! Uninteded consequences? Maybe not. When vast areas are declared “human-free zones”, “wildlife corridors”, “earth islands” and “bio-sphere habitats”, things will be just fine cause the wolves will already be firmly in place.


6 posted on 11/21/2013 11:54:20 AM PST by rktman (Under my plan(scheme), the price of EVERYTHING will necessarily skyrocket! Period.)
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To: Sacajaweau

I don’t have a great deal of sympathy for Catron County welfare ranches.


7 posted on 11/21/2013 11:55:23 AM PST by altsehastiin
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To: Sacajaweau

To bankrupt family farmers and ranchers


8 posted on 11/21/2013 11:55:52 AM PST by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: george76; All

” - - - filmmaker David Spady - - - “

Uh, Davie-boy, when was the last time that a non-rabid wolf attacked a human, or even a “film-maker” in the lower 48?

Chances are, it would also be the first - - - .


9 posted on 11/21/2013 11:56:06 AM PST by Graewoulf (Democrats' Obamacare Socialist Health Insur. Tax violates U.S. Constitution AND Anti-Trust Law.)
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To: george76

google wolf cages for kids and you will see a link of “google images” with some photos.


10 posted on 11/21/2013 11:58:14 AM PST by Aliska
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To: george76
The best way to deal with government wolves remains:

SSS

Shoot, shovel and shut up.

By the way, here's a clue: A wooden outhouse side structure is going to provide a young child minimal protection from wolves.

11 posted on 11/21/2013 11:58:38 AM PST by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: Aliska

“google wolf cages for kids and you will see a link of “google images” with some photos.”

And all those images are of winter snow shelters that have been at bus stops for years, which are being re-labeled as “kid cages” now as a political ploy by anti-wolf people.


12 posted on 11/21/2013 11:59:20 AM PST by altsehastiin
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To: george76; Flycatcher
Every one of the 100-plus enviro-nazis were staunchly opposed to removing the federal protections and more than a few wound up in tears.

Kinda pulls at the old heart strings, doesn't it? /sarc

13 posted on 11/21/2013 12:01:45 PM PST by jazusamo ([Obama] A Truly Great Phony -- Thomas Sowell http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3058949/posts)
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To: Graewoulf

Kid cages are located at bus stops in rural western New Mexico . The cages are for protection against wolf attacks were installed on orders of Reserve Independent Schools officials .

They’re designed so children can step up in them and sit down and wait for the bus,” Catron County Sheriff Shawn Menges


14 posted on 11/21/2013 12:05:22 PM PST by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: george76

Liberalism destroys all it touches. It is anti-human.


15 posted on 11/21/2013 12:06:05 PM PST by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: george76

““You guys, you, we entrusted you to take care of our beloved wildlife, lands and waters, to take care of this land, and you need to be the watchdog so the states don’t open it up to an open slaughter for these wolves,” said Betty Neuenschwander.”

Waaa Waaa, idiots. Whack them all and make a hat out of them!


16 posted on 11/21/2013 12:06:33 PM PST by Beagle8U (Free Republic -- One stop shopping ....... It's the Conservative Super WalMart for news .)
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17 posted on 11/21/2013 12:08:34 PM PST by DJ MacWoW (The Fed Gov is not one ring to rule them all)
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To: george76

The wolves probably wouldn’t last long on the 16th street mall on gang nights.


18 posted on 11/21/2013 12:12:13 PM PST by dynachrome (Vertrou in God en die Mauser)
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To: Graewoulf; All

“Uh, Davie-boy, when was the last time that a non-rabid wolf attacked a human, or even a “film-maker” in the lower 48?”

August 28, 2013

Minnesota teen suffers head wounds in fight with attacking wolf

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2013/08/27/16-year-old-survives-first-ever-documented-serious-wolf-attack-in-minnesota/


19 posted on 11/21/2013 12:13:22 PM PST by marktwain (The MSM must die for the Republic to live. Long live the new media!)
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To: altsehastiin
"I don’t have a great deal of sympathy for Catron County welfare ranches."

"And all those images are of winter snow shelters that have been at bus stops for years, which are being re-labeled as “kid cages” now as a political ploy by anti-wolf people.

So we have another one in our midst.

20 posted on 11/21/2013 12:14:58 PM PST by Fightin Whitey
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To: Sacajaweau

Actually wolves very rarely attack humans, they are so afraid of the human scent I wonder how they were domesticated into dogs in the first place.


21 posted on 11/21/2013 12:19:44 PM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: george76; jazusamo
Unbelievably, there is a fed/enviro movement (sponsored out of state) to introduce the Mexican gray wolf into my rural northwestern county of Arizona. I just read about this 6 months ago. The same sort of urban idiots are all for it, of course. And almost to a person, they are from OUT OF STATE!

As it stands now, there is a huge pushback from the locals to stop this nonsense. We seem to be winning now, but the environazis never give up.

And, yes, if the wolf eventually does get reintroduced into my remote part of the county, I guarantee you I will KILL every wolf on sight I run across.

Then I will shovel.

And then I will shut up.

22 posted on 11/21/2013 12:20:53 PM PST by Flycatcher (God speaks to us, through the supernal lightness of birds, in a special type of poetry.)
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To: Sacajaweau

Diversity!!


23 posted on 11/21/2013 12:21:47 PM PST by Trailerpark Badass (There should be a whole lot more going on than throwing bleach, said one woman.)
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To: central_va

Michigan cattle farmer says wolf numbers, attacks growing at Upper Peninsula ranch.

http://www.mlive.com/news/grand-rapids/index.ssf/2013/11/post_452.html


24 posted on 11/21/2013 12:21:52 PM PST by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: Flycatcher

Wolf introduction is a criminal enterprise based on scientific fraud


25 posted on 11/21/2013 12:23:14 PM PST by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: Sacajaweau
"no more common sense. we need wolves why????"

because Grandma is costing Obamacare too much?

My what a big law you have!

26 posted on 11/21/2013 12:23:23 PM PST by DannyTN
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To: Sacajaweau
"no more common sense. we need wolves why????"

because Grandma is costing Obamacare too much?

My what a big law you have!

27 posted on 11/21/2013 12:23:23 PM PST by DannyTN
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To: Graewoulf

Uh, Davie-boy, when was the last time that a non-rabid wolf attacked a human, or even a “film-maker” in the lower 48?

Chances are, it would also be the first - -


I found the series of articles avaible on the Boone and Crokett Club’s webiste quite informative on wolves. Not sure about the US; but there has been at least on instance in Canada.

If you are interested: http://www.boone-crockett.org/conservation/conservation_wolves.asp?area=conservation&ID=DAF808F3&se=1


28 posted on 11/21/2013 12:25:14 PM PST by Idaho_Cowboy (Ride for the Brand. Joshua 24:15)
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To: george76

“Kid cages”???

That’s disgusting. How about some “wolf rifles” instead?

Dad and I have both blasted our share of coyotes ... wolves endangering human life, lifestock or pets deserve the same treatment.


29 posted on 11/21/2013 12:27:49 PM PST by NorthMountain
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To: Flycatcher

I truly wish you and your fellow Arizonan’s the best in defeating these nuts. We don’t need wolves in the lower 48 nor are they needed for the ecosystem, did just fine without them for many years.


30 posted on 11/21/2013 12:28:31 PM PST by jazusamo ([Obama] A Truly Great Phony -- Thomas Sowell http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3058949/posts)
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To: george76
Many residents and many hunters in Catron County, NM have made many wolves disappear.

So many that in fact every wolf now has 3 government employees (armed) tracking its movements and the movements of its only effective predator (humans).

Our forebears eradicated wolves for a reason.

The reason is that any interaction between a wolf and an unarmed human or that human's livestock is a meal for a wolf.

31 posted on 11/21/2013 12:32:31 PM PST by elkfersupper
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To: Sacajaweau

“we need wolves why????”

Too speed along the implementation of UN Agenda 21, the depopulation of vast swaths of the American landscape and herd everyone into manageable cities.


32 posted on 11/21/2013 12:32:57 PM PST by Rebelbase (Tagline: optional, printed after your name on post)
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To: altsehastiin

You are a useful idiot for somebody.


33 posted on 11/21/2013 12:35:14 PM PST by elkfersupper
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To: altsehastiin

“And all those images are of winter snow shelters that have been at bus stops for years, which are being re-labeled as “kid cages” now as a political ploy by anti-wolf people.”

220-221, whatever it takes.


34 posted on 11/21/2013 12:35:23 PM PST by Rebelbase (Tagline: optional, printed after your name on post)
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To: central_va

Todays wolves are not yesterdays wolves...nevertheless...they’re all killers by nature.


35 posted on 11/21/2013 12:35:30 PM PST by Sacajaweau
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To: central_va
Actually wolves very rarely attack humans, they are so afraid of the human scent

I'm calling B.S. on that.

36 posted on 11/21/2013 12:37:12 PM PST by elkfersupper
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To: george76

+1 for at least one State Wildlife agency for taking the bull by the horns:

Wildlife agents finish job of eliminating wolf pack

http://www.king5.com/news/environment/Wildlife-agents-kill-alpha-male-in-wolf-pack-in-NE-Wash-171607141.html


37 posted on 11/21/2013 12:37:51 PM PST by Rebelbase (Tagline: optional, printed after your name on post)
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To: central_va

Fatal Wolf Attack Unnerves Alaska Village

http://www.nbcnews.com/id/35913715/


38 posted on 11/21/2013 12:41:01 PM PST by Rebelbase (Tagline: optional, printed after your name on post)
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To: george76

Wouldn’t it be simpler than scratching and biting to have a season on predator and prey alike?-and yes, I am a hunter-one who knows the natural world must have a balance so we can all have enough healthy game for food-that is what hunting is for.

That is why there are extra deer tags on your license when the year has been dry and the deer are in poor condition-more need to be harvested to maintain a healthy population, rather than just a big one, because there are not enough natural predators to take out the unhealthy deer.

Anyone who wants the only wildlife around them to be cute little deer and birdies needs to stay in the city-that is unnatural...

I wouldn’t let my kid wait at a deserted bus stop, and that is because of human predators, not animal ones...


39 posted on 11/21/2013 12:45:40 PM PST by Texan5 (" You've got to saddle up your boys, you've got to draw a hard line"...)
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To: Idaho_Cowboy

BUT WAIT, THERE’S MORE:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3094021/posts


40 posted on 11/21/2013 12:49:02 PM PST by 9422WMR (: " Tolerance is the virtue of a man who has no convictions".)
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To: elkfersupper

There has been exactly 1 attack by a wolf on a human in the lower 48 in recent history, and that was in Minnesota, and the wolf was brain damaged.


41 posted on 11/21/2013 12:50:18 PM PST by altsehastiin
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To: george76

European Wolves prefer horse meat:

Wolves attack horses in French ski station
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3094021/posts


42 posted on 11/21/2013 12:54:23 PM PST by Rebelbase (Tagline: optional, printed after your name on post)
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To: Rebelbase

“In Wolves In Russia,” Will Graves reports on a long history of wolf attacks on people in Eurasia, especially Russia, Pakistan, India and Kazakhastan, including thousands of fatal ones


43 posted on 11/21/2013 12:58:24 PM PST by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: Sacajaweau

Way too many wolves have bred with feral dogs over many years, and lost their fear and avoidance of humans as a result-think guard dogs without a fence or master. It has happened with coyotes, too and is likely the result of dogs set loose and gone feral for years-animals revert to the wild faster than a lot of people realize. In normal circumstances, domestic animals don’t belong out in the wild without fences, and wild animals don’t belong inside of them...


44 posted on 11/21/2013 12:58:37 PM PST by Texan5 (" You've got to saddle up your boys, you've got to draw a hard line"...)
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To: dynachrome

The gangs on 16th Street mall are like wolf packs.

See the Urban game : Polar bear hunting ?


45 posted on 11/21/2013 1:04:01 PM PST by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: Graewoulf

People also were killed by wolves in North America before the 20th century.


46 posted on 11/21/2013 1:15:22 PM PST by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: altsehastiin
There has been exactly 1 attack by a wolf on a human in the lower 48 in recent history, and that was in Minnesota, and the wolf was brain damaged.

B.S.

My horse and I were attacked by wolves in the Gila Wilderness and the wolves wound up being brain-damaged, thanks to hooves, rifle and pistol.

47 posted on 11/21/2013 1:23:52 PM PST by elkfersupper
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To: george76

I grew up reading hundreds of books but the only one that really stuck was Call of the Wild by Jack London. Each summer In recent years I have spent time on the Yukon River which is where Jack London’s fictional book was focused. So, basically, the sound of the wolves is truly, for me and many others, “a call of the wild” and therefore beautiful way out in the woods.

That said, the idea of wolves in populated areas is preposterous both for the wolf and man.


48 posted on 11/21/2013 1:24:36 PM PST by Cen-Tejas (it's the debt bomb stupid!)
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To: elkfersupper

So you were the one. ;)


49 posted on 11/21/2013 1:24:36 PM PST by Teacher317 (Obama is failing faster than I can lower my expectations.)
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To: Teacher317
So you were the one. ;)

I was one of the ones.

50 posted on 11/21/2013 1:26:04 PM PST by elkfersupper
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