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Rand Paul Aids Surprise Guantánamo Bay Win for Obama
Time.com ^ | Nov. 20, 2013 | Massimo Calabresi

Posted on 11/22/2013 12:05:15 AM PST by SoConPubbie

In a surprising win on Tuesday night, the White House and top Senate Democrats successfully defended provisions in the National Defense Authorization Act (NDAA) that would loosen restrictions on transferring detainees out of Guantánamo Bay, advancing President Obama’s goal of closing the facility by a margin of 55-43.

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As recently as early November, Democratic Senate aides participating in the fight to loosen the transfer rules described the politics of the vote as “difficult” but “not impossible” and said those whipping the vote were five or six votes short of the bare majority they needed to defend the provisions. The challenge was to win over swing-state Democrats who had opposed moves to close Gitmo in the past, and to hold supporters facing re-election in 2014.

In Tuesday’s vote, the White House did both. It held Mark Begich of Alaska and Mark Udall of Colorado, two Democratic supporters facing re-election, and won over three former Democratic opponents who are not up in 2014. That allowed Democrats Kay Hagan of North Carolina and Mark Pryor of Arkansas, both of whom are in tough fights next fall, to oppose the bill.

Perhaps most surprising, and most heartening for those seeking to close Gitmo, the White House picked up three Republican votes: John McCain and Jeff Flake of Arizona, and Rand Paul of Kentucky. Paul’s vote suggests potential support among libertarians for the loosened transfer restrictions in the GOP-led House, but the measures still face an uphill battle before they become law. The GOP has strongly opposed measures that could lead to the closure of the prison at Guantánamo Bay, and for many that opposition remains.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Kentucky
KEYWORDS: gopestablishment; guantanamo; kentucky; libertarian; losertarian; obama; paul; randpaul; rino

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1 posted on 11/22/2013 12:05:16 AM PST by SoConPubbie
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To: SoConPubbie

Gotta love Libertarians...

They never miss a opportunity to tick off a conservative..


2 posted on 11/22/2013 12:07:54 AM PST by Cold Heat (Have you reached your breaking point yet? If not now....then when?)
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To: Cold Heat

As a libertarian leaning conservative, I disagree.

Left-Leaning REPUBLICANS tend to quite annoy freedom lovers.

Ron Paul is quite simply a nut. His son is a bit better balanced, SO FAR.

Democrats are in a class of their own...


3 posted on 11/22/2013 12:33:48 AM PST by Don W (Know what you WANT. Know what you NEED. Know the DIFFERENCE!)
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To: SoConPubbie

Another DOA Bill from the Senate that won’t make it through the House.


4 posted on 11/22/2013 1:37:17 AM PST by fortheDeclaration (Pr 14:34 Righteousness exalteth a nation:but sin is a reproach to any people)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; cardinal4; ColdOne; ...

Thanks SoConPubbie.


5 posted on 11/22/2013 2:01:11 AM PST by SunkenCiv (http://www.freerepublic.com/~mestamachine/)
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6 posted on 11/22/2013 2:03:57 AM PST by SunkenCiv (http://www.freerepublic.com/~mestamachine/)
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To: Cold Heat

rand is now persona non grata with me... he is his daddy’s son and a backstabbing fool.


7 posted on 11/22/2013 3:45:14 AM PST by LibLieSlayer (FROM MY COLD, DEAD HANDS! BETTER DEAD THAN RED!)
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To: SoConPubbie

Rand Paul, a snake in the grass, or a lightweight Christie?


8 posted on 11/22/2013 5:22:24 AM PST by kenmcg (scapegoat)
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To: SoConPubbie
I cannot even begin to understand what the remaining purpose of Guantanamo is.

Every single inmate there should have been hanged six or seven years ago.

9 posted on 11/22/2013 5:26:52 AM PST by Jim Noble (When strong, avoid them. Attack their weaknesses. Emerge to their surprise.)
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To: SoConPubbie

I admire Rand Paul for this. He’s voting according to his pretty consistant anti-globalist view. McCain?....this vote makes no sense for someone with his usual views. Flake?....can anyone figure him out?


10 posted on 11/22/2013 5:34:50 AM PST by grania
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To: grania

Flake said he hopes the GOP goes back to 60 vote threshhold.

One positive has been the filibuster has helped stopped McCain and Flake’s previous immigration bills when Flake was a member of the House.


11 posted on 11/22/2013 4:34:18 PM PST by ObamahatesPACoal
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