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Mother of minivan of kids shot at by police speaks out against'terrifying
DAILY MAIL ^ | 22 November 2013 | RYAN GORMAN and DAILY MAIL REPORTER

Posted on 11/22/2013 12:29:43 PM PST by moonshinner_09

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I still do not get why she just took off ? That reeks guilty of something - when the pedal is put to the medal.
1 posted on 11/22/2013 12:29:43 PM PST by moonshinner_09
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To: moonshinner_09

Again: The officer was wrong to shoot. However, up to that point, the woman and her older son instigated and escalated the whole event. I too would like to know why she kept taking off and resisting the officers....


2 posted on 11/22/2013 12:34:17 PM PST by Dubh_Ghlase (Therefore, send not to know For whom the bell tolls, It tolls for thee.)
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To: moonshinner_09

She is after whitey’s money now!


3 posted on 11/22/2013 12:36:22 PM PST by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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To: moonshinner_09

Drugs and paraphernalia in the van. Other articles casually mention it or bury it.


4 posted on 11/22/2013 12:37:17 PM PST by Ingtar (The NSA - "We're the only part of government who actually listens to the people.")
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To: Alaska Wolf

Bad shot placement ping...


5 posted on 11/22/2013 12:38:21 PM PST by null and void (I'm betting on an Obama Trifecta: A Nobel Peace Prize, an Impeachment, AND a War Crimes Trial...)
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To: moonshinner_09

Apparently it was because they had already ticketed her, but the choices were to pay on the spot or go see a judge at that very moment.


6 posted on 11/22/2013 12:43:08 PM PST by MarMema ("If Americans really wanted Obamacare, you wouldn't need a law to make them buy it." Ted Cruz)
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To: moonshinner_09

Sorry, no sale. She was speeding, stopped and then ran.

“That’s it: Having seen enough, the teen jumps out of the car to confront the officer”
typical behavior of black males


7 posted on 11/22/2013 12:44:55 PM PST by Farnsworth (Now playing in America: "Stupid is the new normal")
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To: Dubh_Ghlase
thread here
8 posted on 11/22/2013 12:45:45 PM PST by MarMema ("If Americans really wanted Obamacare, you wouldn't need a law to make them buy it." Ted Cruz)
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To: moonshinner_09

Panic makes folks do a lot of strange things.. Ask Harry Reid.


9 posted on 11/22/2013 12:53:22 PM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi)
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To: Ingtar

She didn’t have time for a cavity search and a colonostopy. :-)


10 posted on 11/22/2013 1:07:20 PM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: moonshinner_09

She’s the one who escalated a simple traffic stop into something much worse. She put her children in danger, not the cops.


11 posted on 11/22/2013 1:11:02 PM PST by pgkdan (Stay Calm and Cruz on! Ted Cruz for President in 2016!)
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To: MarMema

The “pay on the spot” is the killer ,, think of it from her side ,, the only reason small towns do that is because they are robbing people ... typically they do not report the ticket info and it doesn’t show up on your license ... this is done so that they get fewer complaints and they can continue thieving longer and longer ... decades of abuse ... if they followed the rules and reported the “infraction” (and driving 71 on a straight clear road through the friggin desert is not anything that should deserve a ticket) then there would be no reason for the pay now in cash scheme ,, they could ding your license with a suspension no matter what state you are from and get paid..

The cops are the thieves in this instance .


12 posted on 11/22/2013 1:17:26 PM PST by Neidermeyer (I used to be disgusted , now I try to be amused.)
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To: moonshinner_09

“As a single, African-American mother of five in this country, things are tough enough “

Boo intercoursing hoo. I was about to have sympathy for her when I read this.


13 posted on 11/22/2013 1:23:53 PM PST by I want the USA back (Media: completely irresponsible traitors. Complicit in the destruction of our country.)
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To: Neidermeyer

I was stopped for speeding (48/30) in another state and taken to a local justice where I was given the choice of pleading guilty to the infraction or posting bail for a traffic hearing. The bail was the same amount as the ticket. I paid the fine and even though the state had a reciprocating agreement with my state the conviction never showed up on my driving record.


14 posted on 11/22/2013 1:25:55 PM PST by Wiggins
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To: pgkdan

When I watched the video, I was appalled. She treated her kids as an excuse. She obviously thought nothing about what her actions and possible consequences would mean played out in front of the children. I can see why the shots were fired, not that I am convinced it was the best response. The other officers pulled up to see the thug son striking an officer. When they broke the window, they saw a toy gun in the car, but did not have time to identify it as a toy before she drove off. Everything she did made it worse.


15 posted on 11/22/2013 1:53:10 PM PST by Ingtar (The NSA - "We're the only part of government who actually listens to the people.")
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To: MarMema

New Mexico absolutely does not have a pay at the roadside option. That’s regular Mexico.

You have two options statewide. Sign a penalty assessment admitting guilt. You may then mail in the fine, pay on the courts website, etc. You risk getting an arrest warrant issued if you do not send it in within 30 days.

Option 2, see a judge. If you are from New Mexico, you get a court date. Otherwise, you must go meet a judge right then. You will probably be asked to post bond equal to the fine if you wish to set up a different court date.

But there is simply not an option to pay at roadside. The woman was an ass looking for a cause who lead a speeding chase through an area where she could have killed tourists, motorcyclists, bike riders, etc. Her kids are no more valuable than mine.

She could have signed the ticket with no danger. If she fled, she could have driven normally into town. She was the danger here. Not the guy going for her tires. At the 2nd stop, it would have been better to deploy a spikebelt in front of her van though. She had already fled once.


16 posted on 11/22/2013 2:04:46 PM PST by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office.)
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on a straight clear road through the friggin desert

New Mexico 518? Not straight and at a max elevation of 9700' not desert either. There's not much of it I'd drive at 70 in my Honda S2000, much less a minivan full of kids.

17 posted on 11/22/2013 2:05:57 PM PST by Tijeras_Slim
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There is no pay on the spot in New Mexico. None whatsoever. And state police would be the last doing it there.

It’s a choice. Sign that you admit guilt and send in the fine. Or sign that you opt to fight it in court. If you are from out of state, you’ll have to see a judge and post a bond. I personally think that system is unreasonable. In this highly mobile society, everyone should get the exact same court date options. That’s a court rule from another era when some grapes of wrath type would never show for court, and never come back to face a charge.

But nobody is collecting cash on the side of the road. Especially state troopers, on camera, with backup. Those guys are nasty jerks, but they are straight arrows and prigs about rules, like Game Wardens.


18 posted on 11/22/2013 2:12:44 PM PST by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office.)
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To: Tijeras_Slim

Hand over the S2000 , you’re wasting it .. I’ve gone over that in many a parking lot (solo2 in a GTI).


19 posted on 11/22/2013 2:14:34 PM PST by Neidermeyer (I used to be disgusted , now I try to be amused.)
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To: Neidermeyer

My sister (with a minivan filled with kids) was stopped once and told to pay on the spot and was absolutely convinced from the encounter that it was a dirty or fake cop engaged in highway robbery and was horribly frightened by the whole thing. She was very frightened of the officer’s aggressive insistence on immediate payment.

Since we can’t hear the verbal exchange at the initial encounter, is it possible that this women was similarly freaked out and that is why she took off the first time?

(I realized that the cops allege drugs and bongs were found in the car, but cops alos lie and plant evidence. And after the hot mess this stop turned into, they would be very motivated to “find” evidence that would make the lady appear to be a drug addled nutcase, so I’m not taking the alleged drugs at face value until more is known about this family).


20 posted on 11/22/2013 2:15:27 PM PST by Valpal1 (If the police can t solve a problem with brute force, they ll find a way to fix it with brute force)
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