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Catching Fire – A Great Tool For Teaching
www.williamrussell.net ^ | 11/29/2013 | William Russell

Posted on 11/29/2013 5:51:52 AM PST by Bill Russell

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1 posted on 11/29/2013 5:51:52 AM PST by Bill Russell
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I resisted reading these books until I realized that my 13 year old granddaughter was reading them. I read all three in three days. I’m still digesting them and not sure how I feel about them. I can’t give a full assessment because it would involve spoilers. There are two or three plot twists that trouble me. I’m not sure its all about tyranny and fighting centralized government. It’s more subtle than that.


2 posted on 11/29/2013 6:01:32 AM PST by Mercat
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Pictures and URL links are in the source blog.

Why not post them here?

3 posted on 11/29/2013 6:04:10 AM PST by humblegunner
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To: Bill Russell

I heard that the “Hunger Games” was created as an anti-Bush analogy, but I’m not exactly sure how. Supposedly someone thought that if the “Bush Doctrine” continued, we would be staging war games for entertainment.


4 posted on 11/29/2013 6:04:46 AM PST by Telepathic Intruder (The only thing the Left has learned from the failures of socialism is not to call it that)
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:: the evil President Snow ::

All sorts of agenda and ideological bells and whistles went of on this one.

Tell me, is this “evil president” (note that Cletus did not capitalize the ‘p’ but the author did!) considerably ...ahem ...

“white as SNOW”?


5 posted on 11/29/2013 6:26:14 AM PST by Cletus.D.Yokel (Catastrophic Anthropogenic Climate Alterations - The acronym explains the science.)
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To: Telepathic Intruder
I heard that the “Hunger Games” was created as an anti-Bush analogy, but I’m not exactly sure how.

She did start writing the books when Bush was still President.

6 posted on 11/29/2013 6:28:58 AM PST by Kip Russell (Be wary of strong drink. It can make you shoot at tax collectors -- and miss. ---Robert A. Heinlein)
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I thought it felt conservative in message. All the good guys were hard working anti government people living in the rural areas. The bad guys were shallow government supporting metro- sexuals living in the capital.


7 posted on 11/29/2013 6:31:42 AM PST by MNDude
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To: Telepathic Intruder

An article that may have info for you, re: Hunger Games as Bush analogue: http://cnsnews.com/blog/lauren-thompson/propaganda-packed-hunger-games-dvd-written-frustration-bush-era


8 posted on 11/29/2013 6:35:25 AM PST by T-Bird45 (It feels like the seventies, and it shouldn't.)
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To: Mercat; Bill Russell

The first book’s movie is currently on Netflicks if anyone wants to see the first movie before going to see the 2nd one.


9 posted on 11/29/2013 6:35:26 AM PST by Apple Pan Dowdy (... as American as Apple Pie)
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>Mercat wrote:

I resisted reading these books until I realized that my 13 year old granddaughter was reading them. I read all three in three days.<

Regardless of your feelings about the book, kudos to you for checking up on what your granddaughter is into. I like that kind of grand parenting!


10 posted on 11/29/2013 6:38:37 AM PST by Lil Flower (American by birth. Southern by the Grace of God! ROLL TIDE!!)
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Bkmk


11 posted on 11/29/2013 6:43:03 AM PST by Covenantor ("Men are ruled...by liars who refuse them news, and by fools who cannot govern." Chesterton)
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To: Telepathic Intruder

I’ve read that too.
Truthfully, the closest analog would be with Tianamen Square and China.

But it is far easier for anyone to make a connection to the Obama administration - with lots of government jobs and low unemployment in Washington DC, with Obamacare subsidies to Congress and staff, with Congress allowed to engage in insider trading legally.

The connection to Bush was largely imaginary.


12 posted on 11/29/2013 6:45:25 AM PST by kidd
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To: Cletus.D.Yokel

Cletus, I did not pick up any particular symbolism in the name of President Snow other than he was evil. I read the books before I saw the movies and I really did not pick up on any racial aspects of the games at all. I believe some of the characters were given greater racial diversity for the movie that was not apparent or specified in the book. This would be an obvious move to give the move a greater audience appeal. For example; Rue and Cinna were “white” in my mind’s eye when I read the book but were clearly black in the movie. - It is possible that I missed the racial identity cues in the text when I read it. — But the race of the characters makes no difference. They were good, honorable people who shared values with and helped the heroine. I did not see any racial overtones (in either direction) in the book or in the movie.


13 posted on 11/29/2013 6:46:02 AM PST by Bill Russell
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To: Mercat

Sometimes I miss the subtleties in the mist when I am getting sprayed in the face by a fire hose....


14 posted on 11/29/2013 6:48:59 AM PST by Bill Russell
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To: humblegunner

Humble, I have never been able to get pictures and url links to paste into my posts. For some reason, I am only able to post in simple text formats. It is probably a head space and timing error on my part....


15 posted on 11/29/2013 6:54:26 AM PST by Bill Russell
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To: kidd
The connection to Bush was largely imaginary.

Every single scandal that the left attributed to Bush was completely imaginary. War for Oil. Katrina (what was he supposed to do?). "Mission accomplished". AWOL. etc. ad naseum. In the meanwhile, we had legitimate concerns which they were oblivious to. Illegal immigration. Overspending. The left treats overspending as if it's some kind of cure for the economy. That's also how they viewed leaches in the middle ages.
16 posted on 11/29/2013 6:56:16 AM PST by Telepathic Intruder (The only thing the Left has learned from the failures of socialism is not to call it that)
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17 posted on 11/29/2013 6:57:11 AM PST by humblegunner
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To: Apple Pan Dowdy

The thought of a movie about children killing other children just doesn’t appeal to me.


18 posted on 11/29/2013 7:01:47 AM PST by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both.)
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To: Mercat

What is the acceptable minimum age for a child to read the books and see the movies?


19 posted on 11/29/2013 7:08:27 AM PST by tbw2
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To: Telepathic Intruder

I think the author intended that, but I see it as a good reflection of the Obama administration. eggs on her face as an unwitting prophet.


20 posted on 11/29/2013 7:14:18 AM PST by Farnsworth (Now playing in America: "Stupid is the new normal")
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